# Would it hurt Hillary if she came out of the closet?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 21, 2016, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676 "2016-02-21T06:34:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/61 "2016-02-22T10:26:08Z")

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> [@handsomeharry](#):
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> At that age, tho, don’t a lot of women become asexual?
> 
> BTW, who is to say that it’s no one’s business except for her and Bill? You’re trying to steal the high road by regurgitating some fundamental aphorism. And, maybe it is a legal thing…has the SC ruled on all aspects of sexuality in re the law? Would you like a President who carelessly violates the laws? (bwahaha)

The incidents with Flowers and the other women were back when Bill and Hillary were in Arkansas and in their late 20’s/ early 30’s.

As for your 2nd point, that was brought up with the Monica Lewinsky scandal - that it should only be between Bill and Hillary. Plus nobody could prove that the relationship ever hurt Bills performance as president (In fact frankly Clinton seemed full of energy and was most effective during those years). So maybe they are right? Maybe its just a moot point as far as the public is concerned and should only be between the couple themselves. Maybe the press should just ignore this like they ignored Kennedys sex life?

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/62 "2016-02-22T11:02:02Z")

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There s alot of speculation that **Urbanredneck** is a secret wifebeater

I wonder, lets say he openly admitted to it. Would that really hurt him any? I mean people that hate him now would still hate him and the people who love him, probably would not care. So frankly I doubt it would be a game changer if he came out and admitted his marriage was one more of abuse which I think most people suspect anyways.

What do you all think?

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/63 "2016-02-22T12:06:44Z")

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> [@handsomeharry](#):
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> At that age, tho, don’t a lot of women become asexual?
> 
> BTW, who is to say that it’s no one’s business except for her and Bill? You’re trying to steal the high road by regurgitating some fundamental aphorism. And, maybe it is a legal thing…has the SC ruled on all aspects of sexuality in re the law? Would you like a President who carelessly violates the laws? (bwahaha)

Sometimes, you amuse you.

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**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/64 "2016-02-22T12:56:22Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> There s alot of speculation that **Urbanredneck** is a secret wifebeater
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> I wonder, lets say he openly admitted to it. Would that really hurt him any? I mean people that hate him now would still hate him and the people who love him, probably would not care. So frankly I doubt it would be a game changer if he came out and admitted his marriage was one more of abuse which I think most people suspect anyways.
> 
> What do you all think?

Are you a professional political spin doctor? If so your quite a pro of changing an issue around so instead of an intelligent answer you turn it into a slam on the person asking. It’s actually an effective tactic to put people off track and on the defensive and hopefully people will forget the original question.

Your good.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/65 "2016-02-22T13:01:51Z")

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It is a good tactic. It takes a little more imagination than, “hey, I’m just asking questions here,” but there you go.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/66 "2016-02-22T13:06:00Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> Are you a professional political spin doctor? If so **your** quite a pro of changing an issue around so instead of an intelligent answer you turn it into a slam on the person asking. It’s actually an effective tactic to put people off track and on the defensive and hopefully people will forget the original question.
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> **Your** good.

\*You’re

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/67 "2016-02-22T13:24:07Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> Are you a professional political spin doctor? If so your quite a pro of changing an issue around so instead of an intelligent answer you turn it into a slam on the person asking. It’s actually an effective tactic to put people off track and on the defensive and hopefully people will forget the original question.

Please tell me that you realise my post was a spoof of yours? Please tell me you have sufficient self awareness to realise that by accusing me of distracting from the debate by a personal attack, you are making an accusation against yourself.

Please?

Nope, didn’t think so.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/68 "2016-02-22T14:23:57Z")

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“I did NOT have sexual relations with that woman”

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/69 "2016-02-22T14:42:50Z")

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> [@TokyoBayer](#):
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> It’s every damn thread. From GQ today:

Yes, I was actually referring to his posting history. I hope for his sake that the OP is just some giant troll and doesn’t really believe all the goofball shit he comes up with.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/70 "2016-02-22T15:39:12Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> If I heard Hillary had come out as a lesbian I’d figure some focus group determined most voters wanted a lesbian for president.

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but…

Well done, **Starving Artist**.

That’s funny, even to this probable Hillary voter.

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**Author:** ![edwards\_beard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@edwards\_beard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwards_beard)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/71 "2016-02-22T18:40:13Z")

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> [@armedmonkey](#):
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> I’m going to take this question in a straight up, face value, hypothetical sort of way.
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> It would fucking ruin her. Pundits would ask about how she lied about her sexuality for so long. The right would have a field day, and most of the moderate left would also abandon her. It would be a fucking disaster. Can you imagine the media circus?
> 
> I don’t believe for a second she is, though.
> 
> But as long as we are dealing in hypotheticals, what if it came out that Trump has a rent-boy? Some 24 year old Mexican gym-rat. Trump’s so teflon, I wonder if he might pull that off. “We ARE going to build a wall. They ARE going to pay for it… and I’ll TELL YOU WHY!”
> 
> _::crowd cheers::_
> 
> “The Mexicans don’t fuck US! We fuck THEM!”
> 
> _::massive applause::_

Are you implying Trump wants to build a wall…not to keep people out, but for the glory holes?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/72 "2016-02-22T19:01:08Z")

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> [@edwards\_beard](#):
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> Are you implying Trump wants to build a wall…not to keep people out, but for the glory holes?

“The Mexicans will pay for it…and then they will suck our dicks!”

Huh. Yeah, actually that sound pretty much like what he’s saying.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/73 "2016-02-22T19:14:54Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> But she still has a lead among older caucus and primary voters. Maybe Hillary is–gasp!–old!

We won’t know until she produces her _real_ birth certificate.

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**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/74 "2016-02-22T19:24:55Z")

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I actually don’t think the OP is a troll. He is really just very, very stupid.

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/75 "2016-02-22T20:50:35Z")

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> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#):
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> I actually don’t think the OP is a troll. He is really just very, very stupid.

I think he’s both: a very, very stupid troll.

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**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/76 "2016-02-22T21:20:17Z")

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> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#):
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> I think he’s both: a very, very stupid troll.

Speaking of, I haven’t noticed aceplace lately. He doesn’t seem to be posting his usual “news” stories or his scintillating reviews of the Arkansas chain restaurant scene.

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**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/77 "2016-02-22T21:51:08Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> I take it you would defend Hillary no matter what.

Well, I’m not a Hillary fan and I think you’re a fucking moron who makes us all from this neck’o’the woods look bad. So stop it.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/78 "2016-02-22T22:49:36Z")

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Since Hillary came out as a lesbian I have decided I am still not going to vote for her.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/79 "2016-02-22T23:41:16Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> I can’t believe I’m saying this, but…
> 
> Well done, **Starving Artist**.
> 
> That’s funny, even to this probable Hillary voter.

It’s always nice to be able connect with someone from the other side. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/80 "2016-02-23T00:53:28Z")

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No, of course Hillary’s no lesbian. Eleanor Roosevelt, now . . .

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