# Would like an administrator to clarify two moderator warnings

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-like-an-administrator-to-clarify-two-moderator-warnings/389751
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [January 27, 2007, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-like-an-administrator-to-clarify-two-moderator-warnings/389751 "2007-01-27T19:23:56Z")
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### Author: ![That\_creates\_more\_Q\_s\_than\_A\_s](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/54ee81/32.png) [@That\_creates\_more\_Q\_s\_than\_A\_s](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_creates_more_Q_s_than_A_s)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2007, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-like-an-administrator-to-clarify-two-moderator-warnings/389751/1 "2007-01-27T19:23:56Z")

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1. What are these two moderators angry about?
2. Why did they lock my polls?  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=8194878#post8194878](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=8194878#post8194878)
3. Can you reopen the poll in question?
4. If not, can you tell me again why I should pay one of the highest board prices on the web to become a member?

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### Author: ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2007, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-like-an-administrator-to-clarify-two-moderator-warnings/389751/2 "2007-01-27T19:40:09Z")

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**Czarcasm** explained why he closed the first one. I closed the second one because it was a repeat of the first one. You don’t get to keep reposting the same OP once it has been closed. I could, perhaps, have been gentler about it.

**Moderator Notes:**  
That said, criticism and discussion of moderator actions belong in the Pit, to whence this goes.

Moved from ATMB to the Pit.

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### Author: ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2007, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-like-an-administrator-to-clarify-two-moderator-warnings/389751/3 "2007-01-27T19:56:01Z")

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I can’t say I saw much of a problem with the first thread. I’m not aware that joke or parody polls are against the rules. I suppose that there could have been some rationale for closing it under the “no post-padding rule,” but it didn’t seem to have reached that level.

This said, the best approach when it was closed would have been to contact a moderator by email with a request that it be re-opened. It’s not a good idea to simply start another thread when one has been closed unless you have discussed it with a moderator.

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### Author: ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2007, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-like-an-administrator-to-clarify-two-moderator-warnings/389751/4 "2007-01-27T19:58:30Z")

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> [@That creates more Q's than A's](#):
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> 1. If not, can you tell me again why I should pay one of the highest board prices on the web to become a member?

Don’t let the door hit you on the ass on your way out. If you think it’s worth it (and many do), pay to remain. If not, don’t. Either way, don’t bitch about it.

In seeking clarification for a thread closing, it helps to read the warning carefully. You also could have asked **Czarcasm** and/or **Frank** privately via email about it.

(I hope I’m not stepping on anybody’s toes here.)

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### Author: ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2007, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-like-an-administrator-to-clarify-two-moderator-warnings/389751/5 "2007-01-27T20:03:48Z")

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Frank said that if you started the same thread again you would get a warning. So far, the only thing that has happened to you is two of your threads were locked. It’s rare that someone gets two threads locked in such a short time period, but it doesn’t appear that any other sanction was imposed.

As to whether you pop for the membership fee, nobody really cares. The ability to post here is either worth the fee to you, or it is not. From my perspective, the hours of entertainment I’ve enjoyed here came at a bargain price. Haven’t done the math, but I suspect it costs fractions of a penny per hour. Your milage may vary.

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### Author: ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2007, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-like-an-administrator-to-clarify-two-moderator-warnings/389751/6 "2007-01-27T20:37:03Z")

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Don’t let the door, etc.

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### Author: ![That\_creates\_more\_Q\_s\_than\_A\_s](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/54ee81/32.png) [@That\_creates\_more\_Q\_s\_than\_A\_s](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_creates_more_Q_s_than_A_s)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2007, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-like-an-administrator-to-clarify-two-moderator-warnings/389751/7 "2007-01-27T20:45:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Frank]  
**Czarcasm** explained why he closed the first one. I closed the second one because it was a repeat of the first one. You don’t get to keep reposting the same OP once it has been closed. I could, perhaps, have been gentler about it.

**Moderator Notes:**  
That said, criticism and discussion of moderator actions belong in the Pit, to whence this goes.

Moved from ATMB to the Pit.  
[/QUOTE]

1 ) Czarcasm did not explain why he closed the first one.  
I do not know why he closed the first one.  
Why did he close the first one?

1. I did NOt repeat the same OP. Didn’t you even bother to read it before closing it?  
Try reading it again and tell me it was the same.  
Is it the same?

2. Why send things to the pit? Just to insult me on purpose, hold me up to ridicule?  
Is that the reason? Because that was the result.

3. And I’d still like to know why, since you are so intent on insulting me, that I shoud be expected to want to pay for the privilege.

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### Author: ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2007, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-like-an-administrator-to-clarify-two-moderator-warnings/389751/8 "2007-01-27T20:52:39Z")

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_sigh_

Board policy is very clear. Complaints about the mods go in the pit. It’s not a personal insult.

You don’t have to buy a membership. That’s why you get a free trial period. If you don’t like the board, keep your money. Judging by your brief history here, I suggest that you may be happier elsewhere.

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### Author: ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2007, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-like-an-administrator-to-clarify-two-moderator-warnings/389751/9 "2007-01-27T21:06:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Captain Carrot]  
Don’t let the door hit you on the ass on your way out. If you think it’s worth it (and many do), pay to remain. If not, don’t. Either way, don’t bitch about it.

[/QUOTE]

Although I don’t think the OP’s original complaint was worth getting het up about, \*if he pays his nickel, he gets to bitch.  
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IF!

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### Author: ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2007, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-like-an-administrator-to-clarify-two-moderator-warnings/389751/10 "2007-01-27T21:11:53Z")

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[QUOTE=That creates more Q’s than A’s]  
1 ) Czarcasm did not explain why he closed the first one.  
I do not know why he closed the first one.  
Why did he close the first one?  
[/quote]  
Yes, he did. He said: “This one seems to be a parody or joke poll, so I’m going to go ahead and close it.” There’s your reason.

> [@](#):
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> 1. I did NOt repeat the same OP. Didn’t you even bother to read it before closing it?  
> Try reading it again and tell me it was the same.  
> Is it the same?

You added more verbage and waffle, but yeah – the poll was the same one.

> [@](#):
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> 1. Why send things to the pit? Just to insult me on purpose, hold me up to ridicule?  
> Is that the reason? Because that was the result.

Nah – whinges about mods and admins go here. You started the ridicule train by posting two poll threads on the same thing.

> [@](#):
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> 1. And I’d still like to know why, since you are so intent on insulting me, that I shoud be expected to want to pay for the privilege.

You’re _not_ expected to. How you choose to spend your dough is up to you.

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### Author: ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2007, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-like-an-administrator-to-clarify-two-moderator-warnings/389751/11 "2007-01-27T21:46:04Z")

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[QUOTE=That creates more Q’s than A’s]  
4) And I’d still like to know why, since you are so intent on insulting me, that I shoud be expected to want to pay for the privilege.  
[/QUOTE]

Quality, that’s why. This board only uses the finest insults, the purest invective, and the most original epithets you’ll find any where on the internet. Getting insulted on the Straight Dope would still be cheap at twice the price.

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### Author: ![Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_fight_the_hypothetical)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2007, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-like-an-administrator-to-clarify-two-moderator-warnings/389751/12 "2007-01-27T22:04:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Ice Wolf]  
Yes, he did. He said: “This one seems to be a parody or joke poll, so I’m going to go ahead and close it.” There’s your reason.  
[/QUOTE]

I gots no dog in this rat killing but being new I’m curious…

I remember a thread not too long ago where a mod stopped in and clarified for everyone that it was a parody of another thread, then it rolled merrily along. And I think I remember seeing lots joke polls so what am I missing?

Steven

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### Author: ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2007, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-like-an-administrator-to-clarify-two-moderator-warnings/389751/13 "2007-01-27T22:19:24Z")

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Good point, **Don’t fight the hypothetical**. I was supplying the reason provided – didn’t say it made sense. It doesn’t, really, not to me. I tend to be thick-as when it comes to parodies around here. I put that down to cultural differences, north-south divide, that kinda thing. But yeah – when were parodies made illegal, and what on earth was the OPs a parody of? Enlightenment would be welcome.

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### Author: ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2007, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-like-an-administrator-to-clarify-two-moderator-warnings/389751/14 "2007-01-27T22:21:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Ice Wolf]  
You added more verbage and waffle, but yeah – the poll was the same one.  
[/QUOTE]

Actually, it wasn’t. The first one was an actual joke/parody poll. Second thread was requesting people to offer up their own examples of the type of “choices” given. I think the OP’s mistake was to use the exact same list of choices for both threads.

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### Author: ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2007, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-like-an-administrator-to-clarify-two-moderator-warnings/389751/15 "2007-01-27T22:46:26Z")

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I seriously don’t understand the point of locking a thread, unless it’s because of spam, or some blatant violation (such as illegal activity).

I believe a thread that doesn’t violate the aforementioned rules, should persist without mod intervention. If a thread is unpopular, it’ll die a natural death, but if a thread is receiving posts, then I don’t see any valid reason to close it, because clearly some people are enjoying it.

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### Author: ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2007, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-like-an-administrator-to-clarify-two-moderator-warnings/389751/16 "2007-01-27T22:49:09Z")

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Or (while this is not the case for the polls) there is trolling going on, or the OP requests it, or because there have been previous warnings stating that the mods don’t want to see another thread like this one, or…

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### Author: ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2007, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-like-an-administrator-to-clarify-two-moderator-warnings/389751/17 "2007-01-27T23:00:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Kat]  
Actually, it wasn’t. The first one was an actual joke/parody poll. Second thread was requesting people to offer up their own examples of the type of “choices” given. I think the OP’s mistake was to use the exact same list of choices for both threads.  
[/QUOTE]  
Ah. Thanks, **Kat** , you’re right. I think the verbage put me off from seeing that. Cheers.

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2007, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-like-an-administrator-to-clarify-two-moderator-warnings/389751/18 "2007-01-27T23:08:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Ice Wolf]  
Good point, **Don’t fight the hypothetical**. I was supplying the reason provided – didn’t say it made sense. It doesn’t, really, not to me. I tend to be thick-as when it comes to parodies around here. I put that down to cultural differences, north-south divide, that kinda thing. But yeah – when were parodies made illegal, and what on earth was the OPs a parody of? Enlightenment would be welcome.  
[/QUOTE]

Look at **Liberal** ’s thread in that forum. It’s the one that’s now locked (per his request).

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### Author: ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2007, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-like-an-administrator-to-clarify-two-moderator-warnings/389751/19 "2007-01-27T23:20:58Z")

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[QUOTE=That creates more Q’s than A’s]  
4) If not, can you tell me again why I should pay one of the highest board prices on the web to become a member?  
[/QUOTE]

You shouldn’t. Go away.

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### Author: ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2007, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-like-an-administrator-to-clarify-two-moderator-warnings/389751/20 "2007-01-27T23:24:22Z")

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Thanks, **John Mace**. Told you I was thick when it comes to this parody thing! 😃

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