# Would murder and/or death rates rise, or lower, if the 2nd Amendment was abolished? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 13, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-murder-and-or-death-rates-rise-or-lower-if-the-2nd-amendment-was-abolished/810491 "2018-03-13T14:55:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 22
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-murder-and-or-death-rates-rise-or-lower-if-the-2nd-amendment-was-abolished/810491/22 "2018-03-13T16:19:56Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > So we’re just dismissing evidence we don’t like, such as the entire rest of the world? Interesting. > > We \*are \*concerned with reducing killings overall - why do you think otherwise? You hear about guns because that’s where the most opportunity lies, in terms of how many lives we can save and how readily it can be done. The 2nd as it is commonly interpreted today stands in the way. That’s the thread topic, and let’s identify attempted diversions from it as soon as they appear. Becuase the rest of the world isnt the USA. Andof course we have notions out there with strict gun controls, but murder rates higher than the USA. Sure, if you cherry pick what parts of the “rest of the world” you want to compare, it can look like gun control might work. If you ignore Mexico and only look at Britain, sure. The thing is, when gun control had & is tried in the USA there has not been a corresponding decrease in violent crime rates. Of course, excuses are made. But gun control has not worked in the USA. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-murder-and-or-death-rates-rise-or-lower-if-the-2nd-amendment-was-abolished/810491)._