# Would Old School, long standing Republicans actually vote for Michelle Bachman? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 20, 2011, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753 "2011-07-20T20:12:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753/21 "2011-07-24T21:19:37Z")
> [@Recovering\_Republican](#): > > But anything would be an improvement over the status quo. I hate when people say that, from any section of the political spectrum. It so often turns out to be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753/22 "2011-07-24T21:54:08Z")
I dream Perry/Bachmann, and I wake up screaming… ---
**Author:** ![gatorslap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gatorslap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gatorslap)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753/23 "2011-07-25T07:19:41Z")
Haven’t the “old school” Republicans long left the party by now? ---
**Author:** ![Recovering\_Republican](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@Recovering\_Republican](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Recovering_Republican)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753/24 "2011-07-25T11:10:23Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I hate when people say that, from any section of the political spectrum. It so often turns out to be wrong. I’m sure you do, but in this case, it’s absolutely true. Come on, guy, how could you have expected anything different? Obama had no military expereince, no business experience, and his entire Federal Career was three years in the Senate when he bothered to show up. He was the least qualified, least experienced guy to ever get sworn in. Today, we’ve had unemployment over 9% for nearly his entire term. We are engaged in three wars. He’s kept none of his promises. Gasoline is at record highs. Homes have lost half their value. Wages have gone down, while inflation has gone up. I understand why the right is angry with him, but the left ought to be angry with him, too. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753/25 "2011-07-25T11:47:36Z")
> [@Recovering\_Republican](#): > > He’s kept none of his promises. I don’t know why I’m bothering given that your other points have already been dealt with several times over and you persist in repeating them, but [here’s seven pages of very specific promises he’s kept](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-kept/). Feel free to handwave them away, as I’m sure you will. Also, given your constant harping on about unemployment, you’ll be thrilled to know that although he inherited an unemployment situation in freefall and has yet to bring the situation back to where it was when he took office, we’ve added [one million jobs in the last year](http://www.politifact.com/ohio/statements/2011/jul/13/republican-national-committee-republican/republican-national-committees-ad-says-2-million-j/). You should be happy about that, right? But I’m sure McCain or Bachmann would have done better by now. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753/26 "2011-07-25T19:49:25Z")
Of course it can be worse. It’s _been_ worse. Yes, 9% unemployment is bad. But 20% is even worse, and it topped that during the Great Depression. And it’s been even worse than that, in other parts of the world. Plus, there are many other ways that things could get worse aside from the economy: If, for instance, we were to kick off a nuclear war, I reckon folks wouldn’t much care about the unemployment rate. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753/27 "2011-07-25T20:57:49Z")
> [@Recovering\_Republican](#): > > Today, we’ve had unemployment over 9% for nearly his entire term. Not true. Unemployment has been over 9% for 62% of the months since Obama was inaugurated. > [@](#): > > We are engaged in three wars. Perhaps true, but not really. Libya is not a war. Combat operations in Iraq have officially ended. > [@](#): > > He’s kept none of his promises. Not true, as pointed out above. > [@](#): > > Gasoline is at record highs. Not true. As far as I know the inflation-adjusted high is still 1981. > [@](#): > > Homes have lost half their value. Not true. The Case-Schiller Index shows average home prices are around 30% off their peaks. > [@](#): > > Wages have gone down, while inflation has gone up. Not true. Inflation is extremely low - lower than it was when Obama is inaugurated. Average wages are flat. Other than that, great post. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753/28 "2011-07-25T21:24:20Z")
Oh, look, another thread that **RR** has managed to hijack into a “Obama SUCKS” rant. I can set my watch by it. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753/29 "2011-07-25T21:42:08Z")
> [@Recovering\_Republican](#): > > Today, we’ve had unemployment over 9% for nearly his entire term. And yet, Republicans keep screaming to cut taxes to create jobs. SHOW ME THE JOBS created by the existing tax cuts. You know, the Bush tax cuts. > [@](#): > > We are engaged in three wars. He’s kept none of his promises. Two of them started by his Republican predecessor and one we’re barely in. > [@](#): > > Gasoline is at record highs. At the same levels it was several times under the Bush Administration. > [@](#): > > Homes have lost half their value. Because of the housing bubble created before he got into office. I was saying as early as 2003 that prices were unsustainable and were going to crash. Who was president then? > [@](#): > > Wages have gone down, while inflation has gone up. Pretty much true under any administration, but what party is it that keeps saying that an increase in the Minimum Wage will hurt America and destroy jobs? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753/30 "2011-07-25T21:46:34Z")
Anyway, I have never considered myself an actual Republican, although there were times I was damned close to saying I was. I have voted for Republicans for President five times and Democrats only twice. Frankly, I’m not sure I can vote for any of these people until they get past pandering to the Tea Party. As I keep asking: “When did the Republicans allow their party to be taken over by the Ignorant and the Insane?” It is pretty clear that there are ZERO moderate Republicans in this race and the only ones who used to be close to that are now busy ejecting their principles as fast as possible to satiate the Tea Party Loons. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753/31 "2011-07-26T04:50:59Z")
Nobody would vote for Bachmann. They would have to be crazy. Even tea baggers should know better. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753/32 "2011-07-27T19:11:02Z")
> [@gatorslap](#): > > Haven’t the “old school” Republicans long left the party by now? I, for one, have done so. I’m actually proud on an ongoing basis to label myself an Obama Republican (analogous to the Reagan Democrats of the 1980s). ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753/33 "2011-07-27T20:00:05Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Nobody would vote for Bachmann. They would have to be crazy. Even tea baggers should know better. I’d be willing to bet that at least some of the [16%](http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/07/19/7113880-nbcwsj-poll-bachmann-surges-to-2nd-place-in-12-gop-field) of GOP primary voters would vote for her. How many of the other 84% of the GOP she’d get is yet to be determined. ---
**Author:** ![pikey\_pete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pikey\_pete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pikey_pete)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753/34 "2011-07-29T15:24:45Z")
My favorite 'pubby (Ike) is probably revolving in his grave like a chicken on a rotisserie because of what has become of the Republican party. ---
**Author:** ![gravitycrash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gravitycrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gravitycrash)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753/35 "2011-07-29T15:49:35Z")
I suppose that I’m an old school Republican and no way in hell would I vote for Bachmann. I loved Reagan, who compared to the tea party was a moderate and Bush the older was okay I guess. Any Republican who is beholden to the Religious right won’t get my vote which severely limits my choices. Heck I think Obama right now might be as conservative as Reagan was then. The loony right will probably get smacked down big time in the next election, I hope anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753/36 "2011-08-05T14:21:41Z")
> [@Phlosphr](#): > > The other day he was talking about Michelle Bachman and those “tea party nut-jobs” as people he would never support or vote for. I’m wondering if any SDMB dopers would actually vote for Michelle either? Or do any dopers think that long standing repubs would vote for someone the tea party puts up? When it comes down to it, I don’t think they would. I’m old-school, and so far Bachman is leading the pack in my book. Yeah, I’d vote for her. Nobody’s perfect, and she chaps my butt on a few things. But apart from them, if she gets the nomination, she gets my vote. ---
**Author:** ![JoThrive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@JoThrive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoThrive)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753/37 "2011-08-05T16:36:55Z")
I absolutely, positively could never vote for Bachmann. Never, ever, ever - And moreover I’m probably the oldest, long-standing Republican posting here at the SDMB. I haven’t decided who I will vote for, but it certainly won’t be Bachmann. Never, ever, ever - ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753/38 "2011-08-05T16:53:22Z")
> [@Recovering\_Republican](#): > > I don’t know. > > Do you think Old School Dems like the people who supported JFK, LBJ and FDR (you know, Democrats with testicles) would support “The One”? > > Bachmann is not my first choice. Not thrilled with her religious fanaticism, for starters. But anything would be an improvement over the status quo. Yes. Too many of the Old School Dems were racists but most of them bailed when LBJ shoved Civil Rights through. Ricky Perry didn’t abandon the Democratic Party until 1989. Is he still your Great White Hope? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753/39 "2011-08-09T14:33:41Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Also, given your constant harping on about unemployment, you’ll be thrilled to know that although he inherited an unemployment situation in freefall and has yet to bring the situation back to where it was when he took office, we’ve added [one million jobs in the last year](http://www.politifact.com/ohio/statements/2011/jul/13/republican-national-committee-republican/republican-national-committees-ad-says-2-million-j/). Ahem. From your link - > [@](#): > > The RNC figure – 2 million jobs gone – actually underplays the number of jobs lost since Obama took office. And Politifacts ranks the GOP claim of 2 million jobs lost as Mostly True. Although I appreciate your legwork in proving that your claim isn’t true. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753/40 "2011-08-09T14:42:07Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Ricky Perry didn’t abandon the Democratic Party until 1989. Is he still your Great White Hope? You’re aware that for much of his life Ronald Reagan was a Democrat, right? Occasionally it happens that Democrats who see the light make the greatest Republicans of all. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753.md?page=3)