# Would producing a birth certificate do any good? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 12, 2011, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117 "2011-02-12T09:56:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/361 "2011-02-15T15:05:26Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > What does **septimus** think of all this? I’m afraid the amazing mysteries of forged birth certificates interest me much less than the following questions: > (1) There have been political systems for thousands of years. Can anyone point to another with the level of frenzied gibberish one sees in post-literate America? Read up some on Lebanese politics some day. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/362 "2011-02-15T15:10:25Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > It’s probably the least bizarre of Oily Taint’s claims. It’s pretty amazing how much time she has on her hands, considering she’s not just an attorney but also a dentist and real estate agent. And a floor polish! ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/363 "2011-02-15T15:14:57Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > And a floor polish! And a dessert topping! I suspect that Ms. Taitz is a mail-order bride. And without a doubt, is batcrap crazy. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/364 "2011-02-15T15:42:19Z")
> [@Meyer6](#): > > What a bizarre claim. What possible use could Obama have had for 23 SSNs? More welfare! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/365 "2011-02-15T16:59:13Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Read up some on Lebanese politics some day. Or go watch an Australian prison riot - same basic concept. ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/366 "2011-02-15T17:25:03Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > I bet a lot of guys would love to get their hands on Obama’s SS no. Identity theft big time. Seriously? If you’re trying to steal someone’s identity, shouldn’t it be someone obscure, that no one will question? I suspect people would notice if the target of your theft was the freaking president. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/367 "2011-02-15T17:39:02Z")
Not if you used “Barry Soetero.” ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/368 "2011-02-15T18:04:18Z")
> [@Kyla](#): > > Seriously? If you’re trying to steal someone’s identity, shouldn’t it be someone obscure, that no one will question? I suspect people would notice if the target of your theft was the freaking president. Well, not necessarily. I highly doubt Obama has used a credit card since he took office. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/369 "2011-02-15T18:06:04Z")
> [@Kyla](#): > > Seriously? If you’re trying to steal someone’s identity, shouldn’t it be someone obscure, that no one will question? I suspect people would notice if the target of your theft was the freaking president. Which reminds me of a wonderful old story from my youth, where a young Irish pickpocket was amazed to be arrested in Harrods trying to use a credit card he had lifted. Apparently the name on the card was something along the lines of Sheik Abdul ben Faud. ---
**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/370 "2011-02-15T18:23:16Z")
This Obama guy everybody is talk about is truly amazing. Sounds like he was born in obscurity in Kenya, managed to make his way to America and somehow get a Harvard education, was even an outstanding student while there. He even got himself elected to public office in a nation that isn’t that fond of electing minorities. All this time he has managed to cover up his real birth by controlling the various agencies that store and report all that information and he has even managed to convince millions of people that he is the messiah. Damn. Where does he find the time? We need to get this guy over here to run the USA right now, I don’t care where he was born. Because we have some real problems that could use this sort of can-do attitude. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/371 "2011-02-15T18:30:07Z")
I think by now, it’s crystal clear that this “birther question” will never go away, and no documentation, sworn testimony, or even the direct word of God Himself would ever be accepted as proof. This goes beyond simple ignorance of the facts, it goes beyond simple gullibility and cluelessness. At the risk of ummm whatever, I would say it is deliberate repetition of a known lie. _The Theory Of The Big Lie: If you tell a big enough lie and tell it often enough, eventually it will become the “truth”._ I just don’t know how else to explain it, other than to say the people who keep dredging this up, are deliberately lying. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/372 "2011-02-15T19:03:39Z")
> [@shiftless](#): > > This Obama guy everybody is talk about is truly amazing. Sounds like he was born in obscurity in Kenya, managed to make his way to America and somehow get a Harvard education, was even an outstanding student while there. He even got himself elected to public office in a nation that isn’t that fond of electing minorities. All this time he has managed to cover up his real birth by controlling the various agencies that store and report all that information and he has even managed to convince millions of people that he is the messiah. Damn. Where does he find the time? The use of 29 Social Security numbers leads me to believe that it is a family of identical icosinonatuplets masquerading as a single person. ---
**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/373 "2011-02-15T20:40:19Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > The use of 29 Social Security numbers leads me to believe that it is a family of identical icosinonatuplets masquerading as a single person. Which would make “Obama” a great president AND a possible superhero. At the same time. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/374 "2011-02-15T21:40:11Z")
Or the Anti-Christ. Didn’t think of that, did you? Snooki has written a book. Bill Gates is now a good guy. Signs and portents. ---
**Author:** ![TravisFromOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@TravisFromOR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TravisFromOR)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/375 "2011-02-15T21:51:36Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Or the Anti-Christ. Didn’t think of that, did you? Snooki has written a book. Bill Gates is now a good guy. Signs and portents. Nah, he’d have to have 666 (or 616, depending on whether you read Latin or Greek) SSNs for me to believe that. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/376 "2011-02-16T01:08:22Z")
Bill Gates SSN is 001-11-0010. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/377 "2011-02-16T03:09:17Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > The use of 29 Social Security numbers leads me to believe that it is a family of identical **icosinonatuplets** masquerading as a single person. You just wanted to use that word, didn’t you? ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/378 "2011-02-16T04:14:44Z")
> [@Kyla](#): > > Seriously? If you’re trying to steal someone’s identity, shouldn’t it be someone obscure, that no one will question? I suspect people would notice if the target of your theft was the freaking president. No because the thief is unknown ,emptying the bank accounts via keyboard. It does not matter if it is Warren Buffet. they just need the numbers. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/379 "2011-02-16T04:21:16Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > And a dessert topping! > > I suspect that Ms. Taitz is a mail-order bride. > > And without a doubt, is batcrap crazy. I’m still waiting to find out if she makes “mounds and mounds of delicious cole slaw.” ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/380 "2011-02-16T05:48:43Z")
> [@shiftless](#): > > This Obama guy everybody is talk about is truly amazing. Sounds like he was born in obscurity in Kenya, managed to make his way to America and somehow get a Harvard education, was even an outstanding student while there. He even got himself elected to public office in a nation that isn’t that fond of electing minorities. All this time he has managed to cover up his real birth by controlling the various agencies that store and report all that information and he has even managed to convince millions of people that he is the messiah. Damn. Where does he find the time? > > We need to get this guy over here to run the USA right now, I don’t care where he was born. Because we have some real problems that could use this sort of can-do attitude. One part of some birther’s claims is that Obama never went to college, because he won’t release his school transcripts. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117.md?page=20)