# Would producing a birth certificate do any good? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 12, 2011, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117 "2011-02-12T09:56:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/121 "2011-02-13T07:55:55Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > i Disagree. Politics is at the root of it, not Obama’s race. This nation’s conservatives would embrace a qualified black candidate just like they have a Supreme Court justice, an Secretary of State, and a Republican party chairman. The alleged racism involved in this issue is a liberal political deceit, as are almost all of its claims of racism. Of course, if not racism, then it is just the musings of cranks. Hey, I’m easy, like Coulter and O’reilly and Beck\* and… 🙂 - Or The National Review that think also that continuing to follow this “beat the dead horse” item is doing more harm to the conservative cause than good. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/122 "2011-02-13T07:56:53Z")
And now I’ve really got to go. Later. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/123 "2011-02-13T07:56:53Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I’ve been quite unambiguous about my thinking in this regard and should someone actually post irrefutable evidence one way or the other, I’ll happily amend my stance accordingly. > [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > First, I covered this before. Take a reading comprehension course. Second, it is not enough to take a politician on his or her word. Third, some of what they said was not literally that they saw the original birth certificate, but that it was recorded “according to Hawaiian law” which is obfuscations-speak and could mean simply that a COLB was registered but no original full long form certificate. I asked a similar question in another thread, but that one seems to have dried up, so I’ll ask again here. What proof would either of you accept as irrefutable? Is there anyone whose testimony you would believe about Obama’s birth certificate, or must you see it with your own eyes? Would you like to touch it, inhale the musty smell of a decades-old document? Do you have the skills to detect a forgery, analyze the paper and ink, run it through an electron microscope, perhaps? And if, hypothetically, you did all this and were convinced it was genuine, would you expect anyone to take your word for it; or must we hand it over to the thousands who would want to examine it for themselves? What proof would you accept? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/124 "2011-02-13T07:58:15Z")
I’d like to see copies of it made publicly available. And my acceptance of it would depend upon whatever is determined by scrutiny of it. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/125 "2011-02-13T07:59:36Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No, he was a pretty popular doctor and many of my parents’ friends used him when their kids were born. > > Friends, acquaintances, friends and acquaintances of friends and acquaintances…and hospital staff. I’m twelve years or so older than Obama but for most of my life there were any number of people who could provide information of events surrounding my birth. > > Okay, fine. Where is everybody else? Where are the hospital staffers who may remember him or his mother? What makes you think they don’t exist? Most of them are dead. It was 50 years ago, after all, but you would just call them liars anyway, so what’;s the point. > [@](#): > > I’m not spouting any bullshit yes you are. You are repeatedly asserting things that are not true. > [@](#): > > Or perhaps they just don’t want to have to take a bureaucrat’s word for it that a record which ought to be publicly available exists. Why should anybody’s original birth certificate be publicly available. Name a single state where you can walk in and see somebody else’s original birth certificate. > [@](#): > > Yes there are. I’ve just listed some of them. No there aren’t. Your questions have been answered. > [@](#): > > Apart from the fact that Obama’s original birth certificate is apparently to be kept from public view at all costs. There may be a good reason for this, I don’t know. But I find out I’m gonna be wondering. Thjis is more of that bullshit I’m talking about. You can’t see ANYBODY’S origibnal borth certificate without a good reason. It’s stae klaw, There is no special rule for Obama. > [@](#): > > i Disagree. Politics is at the root of it, not Obama’s race. No, it’s absolutely race. This ridiculous conspiracy theory would never exist if he was white. I have to say, I’ve lost some respect for you from this thread. I knew I disagreed with you a lot, but I never thought you were this much of an irrational wing nut. I’m disappointed. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/126 "2011-02-13T08:02:40Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Well, I don’t know but what I’ve read. You could be right. But whoever’s holding it, certainly is refusing to make it available to the public. Once again, one just needs to change the law to make them available to the public, of course if most people think this is a moot issue or that only cranks entertain it, then good luck on changing the laws that were put there for very good reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/127 "2011-02-13T08:02:43Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I’d like to see copies of it made publicly available. And my acceptance of it would depend upon whatever is determined by scrutiny of it. Copies of it are already publicly available. That’s what the computer generated birth certificate is. Even if you saw a photocopy of the original document, you would just say it was fake, so what’s the point? ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/128 "2011-02-13T08:03:55Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > What proof would either of you accept as irrefutable? Is there anyone whose testimony you would believe about Obama’s birth certificate, or must you see it with your own eyes? Would you like to touch it, inhale the musty smell of a decades-old document? Do you have the skills to detect a forgery, analyze the paper and ink, run it through an electron microscope, perhaps? And if, hypothetically, you did all this and were convinced it was genuine, **would you expect anyone to take your word for it** ; or must we hand it over to the thousands who would want to examine it for themselves? Good choice of words, **Robot Arm**. **Champion-of-“Truth”** doesn’t expect anyone to take the word of the President of the United States, so why should he expect us to take his word or the word of anyone else? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/129 "2011-02-13T08:11:30Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I’d like to see copies of it made publicly available. And my acceptance of it would depend upon whatever is determined by scrutiny of it. Made publicly available in what form? Would an image on the internet satisfy you, or would you need a physical, first-generation photocopy? And how would you know that copy came from the real certificate in the hall of records in Hawaii (or wherever it’s kept)? It seems to me you’d still have to rely on the credibility of someone who was there, and personally witnessed the copying process. How do we know you wouldn’t start asking questions about his bias? And who’s going to scrutinize these copies after they’re available? Must it be absolutely unanimous? If some crank somewhere says “the serif on this lower-case ‘m’ indicates a typeface that wasn’t in use on state-approved typewriters until 1964!”, how do we know you won’t use that as the basis for “these are legitimate questions that ought to be investigated. What is he trying to hide?” ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/130 "2011-02-13T08:16:55Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > I have to say, I’ve lost some respect for you from this thread. I knew I disagreed with you a lot, but I never thought you were this much of an irrational wing nut. I’m disappointed. Then your disappointment is misplaced. All I’m doing is posing questions based upon what I believe is the stance of the people you refer to as birthers. As I said upthread, a person can understand the thinking of other people on issues without necessarily holding that same view themselves. I, personally, have no particular dog in this fight. I’m just playing devil’s advocate. And if you’ve lost respect for me, how am I to know? As far as I can know you’ve never been all that much of a fan in the first place. 🙂 > [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > Copies of it are already publicly available. That’s what the computer generated birth certificate is. But if Johnny L.A.'s information is correct, it is incomplete. The question is, why can’t we see the document is was derived from? > [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > Even if you saw a photocopy of the original document, you would just say it was fake, so what’s the point? Not necessarily. Like I said, it would depend upon what scrutiny of it revealed. You are assuming I’m a so-called truther, and I’m not. The difference is number one, I’m not asserting that Obama’s citizenship is false; and number two, I’m not all that interested in the issue to begin with. Whatever transpires through our legal system is fine with me. But I will say people have every right to be suspicious, just like you had every right to be suspicious of Bush. You believe things about him that remain unproven to this day, and truthers believe things about Obama that remain unproven to this day. What’s the difference? And I know I’ve said this before…twice…but I really do have to go. ---
**Author:** ![Champion-of-Truth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecccb3/32.png) [@Champion-of-Truth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Champion-of-Truth)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/131 "2011-02-13T08:25:16Z")
Diogenes blows his cool when he squeals like a stuck pig: > [@](#): > > Hey, stupid, ignorant, racist, retard fuck. A COLB **IS a fucking birth certificate** , and the original archived document has been verified. Suck Obama’s black American dick, you fucking skinhead. ROTFLMAO! Oh dear God, and Ann Coulter think’s SHE’S good and giving liberals hissy fits? I’m sending her this one! LMAO! A COLB is not a long form birth certificate, you nitwit. Here, let me school your stupid ass once more before I go to bed. A COLB (ie what Obama “released” and what Factcheck “examined”) is known as a Certification of Live Birth. It certifies that a birth was registered. It does not state the hospital or place of birth, the attending physician’s name, etc. A long form birth certificate, also known as a Certificate of Birth (note the similar though different name) contains the name of the attending doctor, the time of birth, the place of birth (hospital name), etc. Those are two entirely different documents, and until 2009 or 2010, Hawaii did not accept the COLB short form for certain purposes, as it was not considered complete enough compared to the long form certificate. They scrubbed their site of this information change due to the controversy. It was recorded on several news sites, including WND. > [@](#): > > Is it your belief he never actually went to Harvard? It is, isn’t it? Already answered this, dumbfuck. Take a reading comprehension course or something. > [@](#): > > You probably also think he’s the antichrist, don’t you? Sure you do. You’re that fucking stupoid. And yet you’re the one who misspelled “stupid”, stupid. :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > ``` > Quote: > For one thing, his school records from Indonesia indicate he was a Muslim citizen in Indonesia. > > ``` > > No they don’t, scumbag. > Are you truly that stupid, you moron? Here you go, you brainless, illiterate fuck. Try reading it. If you’re too stupid, there’s a nice picture there of his actual school papers from Indonesia showing he was registered as Barry Soetoro, a Muslim. It was taken from the Associated Press. Or are they a right wing-nut group too? This is not in dispute, you simpleton! Here are some other sources: [http://www.cc.org/blog/breaking\_obama\_papers\_leaking\_out\_birth\_placeschool\_records\_exposed](http://www.cc.org/blog/breaking_obama_papers_leaking_out_birth_placeschool_records_exposed) Here’s one with an even clearer picture for you, dipshit: > **[BREAKING! Obama Papers Leaking Out! Birth Papers-School Papers Exposed!](http://jimbonews.blogspot.com/2010/02/breaking-obama-papers-leaking-out-birth.html)** > > The following information \[that\] Obama has spent over a million dollars in lawyers fees to hide is now being exposed. This was sent over to ... Even the much-vaunted liberal-loved [Snopes.com](http://Snopes.com) admits he was an Indonesian student at a Muslim school (though they tip toe around the Muslim issue): > **[Who Is Barack Obama?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/who-is-barack-obama/)** > > Is Barack Obama as a 'radical Muslim' who 'will not recite the Pledge of Allegiance'? Here’s some more fact for you to chew on: > **[Indonesia- does anyone have an original News paper, that published this...](https://www.orlytaitzesq.com/indonesia-does-anyone-have-an-original-news-paper-that-published-this-report-or-the-original-translation-with-the-signature-of-the-translater/)** No matter how you cut it, he was registered in an Indonesian school as a Muslim under the name Barry Soetoro. End of story. How does it feel, being so ignorant and stupid? > [@](#): > > An irrelevant artifact of the country’s comnvention of registering all students under the name of their putative fathers. It was never his legal name. He was never adopted, That is far from proven, by any means. Obama has sealed his passport papers, so we have no way of knowing what name he traveled under…Barry Soetoro or Barrack Obama. It is also uncertain whether he was actually adopted or not. This is precisely why this needs to be investigated. Nobody knows anything about this president for sure, and there’s a lot of strange stuff going on. > [@](#): > > He was never a cirtizen of Indonesioa (not that it would render his NBC status invalid anyway), and that same school registration you fuvcking toothless, tweaker peckerheads love so much also lists his place of birth as Hawaii. Wow, you can’t even spell “fucking” correctly. I must have riled your ass up something awful! 😛 Here, read this: > [@](#): > > In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans for Freedom of Information” has released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College .. > > The transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia while an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California . The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify for this scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship. Cite: [The Right News: BREAKING! Obama Papers Leaking Out! Birth Papers-School Papers Exposed!](http://jimbonews.blogspot.com/2010/02/breaking-obama-papers-leaking-out-birth.html) Emphasis mine. Still gonna cling to your frothing-mouthed stupidity? > [@](#): > > His wife didn’t say any of that, scumbag, and in point of fact, none of it’;s true. 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I can do this all night, you drooling retard. She said it, end of story. > [@](#): > > Heh. Wing Nut Daily. Yeah, I expected that would be the best you could come up with. No go run along and educate yourself on these issues, you pathetic, ignorant simpleton! ---
**Author:** ![Champion-of-Truth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecccb3/32.png) [@Champion-of-Truth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Champion-of-Truth)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/132 "2011-02-13T08:28:29Z")
I’m off to bed. If I school Diogenes any further tonight, he’s gonna pop an aneurysm and keel over dead at his keyboard. Not that that would be a bad thing, but it’s far more fun to read his misspelled, improperly formatted, mouth0foaming rants of ignorance. He may be the stupidest, most ignorant person here, and that’s saying a lot! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/133 "2011-02-13T08:29:51Z")
1. There is no such thing as “long form birth certificate.” 2. The existence of his original birth certificate has been confirmed by the state of Hawaii. 3. Barack Obama was never adopted and was never named Soetero, no matter what some Indonesian school adminstrator wrote on his record. 4. Your links are laughable horseshit. 5. You are a moron. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/134 "2011-02-13T08:33:19Z")
> [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > And yet you’re the one who misspelled “stupid”, stupid. :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > Wow, you can’t even spell “fucking” correctly. I must have riled your ass up something awful! 😛 Are you quite sure you want to abide by the precedent that a poster’s stability or credibility is indicated by their spelling ability? ---
**Author:** ![TravisFromOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@TravisFromOR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TravisFromOR)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/135 "2011-02-13T08:35:49Z")
> [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > I’m off to bed. If I school Diogenes any further tonight, he’s gonna pop an aneurysm and keel over dead at his keyboard. Not that that would be a bad thing, but it’s far more fun to read his misspelled, improperly formatted, mouth0foaming rants of ignorance. He may be the stupidest, most ignorant person here, and that’s saying a lot! :eek: It is saying a lot. I didn’t think anyone would be able to hold a candle to you. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/136 "2011-02-13T08:36:45Z")
> [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > I’m off to bed. You don’t have to keep saying this. No one will think you’ve capitulated if you don’t post for a while. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/137 "2011-02-13T08:38:38Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Not necessarily. Like I said, it would depend upon what scrutiny of it revealed. You are assuming I’m a so-called truther, and I’m not. The difference is number one, I’m not asserting that Obama’s citizenship is false; and number two, I’m not all that interested in the issue to begin with. Whatever transpires through our legal system is fine with me. But I will say people have every right to be suspicious, just like you had every right to be suspicious of Bush. You believe things about him that remain unproven to this day, and truthers believe things about Obama that remain unproven to this day. What’s the difference?. It already transpired through the legal system, the birthers lost all their cases. > **[Birthers have now lost 12 court cases in a row](http://rightardia.blogspot.com/2010/11/birthers-have-now-lost-12-court-cases.html)** > > A progressive blog about politics and international events. > **[StockExaminer - AI-Powered Stock Chatbot](https://examiner.com)** > > Discover Stock Examiner, the AI-powered chatbot delivering instant, interactive stock charts, real-time financials, breaking news, stock screeners, and more—all in one seamless experience. PDF file of the score card of the cases, all birther cases were lost or dismissed. [http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats\_your\_evidence/BIRTHER%20CASE%20LIST.pdf](http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/BIRTHER%20CASE%20LIST.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/138 "2011-02-13T08:43:07Z")
> [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > I’m off to bed. I posed a few questions to you in post #123; would appreciate an answer when you get back in the morning. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/139 "2011-02-13T08:43:58Z")
> [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > Even the much-vaunted liberal-loved [Snopes.com](http://Snopes.com) admits he was an Indonesian student at a Muslim school (though they tip toe around the Muslim issue): > > [Who Is Barack Obama? | Snopes.com](http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp) Nah, they don’t tip toe, they call the allegations false. And I already posted that too, yet more direct evidence that you either have trouble reading, or you are still demonstrating what a fool you are in attempting to mislead others on what the cites actually say. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117/140 "2011-02-13T09:03:33Z")
Not the same Snopes article though, but it does reference it, the one I posted already explains in more detail why the allegations regarding Obama’s eligibility being affected for his schooling in Indonesia are still false. So I will stick still to the point that it is a misleading effort to say that Snopes tip toed around the issue. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-producing-a-birth-certificate-do-any-good/571117.md?page=8)