# Would rap/hip hop/KL fans explain the Superbowl halftime show to me? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** music\ **Created:** [February 10, 2025, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-rap-hip-hop-kl-fans-explain-the-superbowl-halftime-show-to-me/1014131 "2025-02-10T13:48:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-rap-hip-hop-kl-fans-explain-the-superbowl-halftime-show-to-me/1014131/121 "2025-02-13T00:00:36Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > As a fellow aficionado of old time I had to smile at this a little bit. How many times has my left hand gone numb playing the same two goddamn chords over and over at a square dance? Been there, done that more times than I can count! šŸ˜ƒ Like they say, you know why fiddle tunes have names? So you can tell them apart! šŸ˜‰ > [@Gyrate](#): > > Try playing cello on Pachelbelā€™s Canon in D sometime. Been there as well. In my ensemble I play the cello parts on upright. Unfortunately, the rest of our ensemble LOVES their parts to that piece. Hard to believe it only repeats some 54 times or so. Always cracks me up when someone says, ā€œIs it okay to start at measure #\_\_).ā€ Look - it is either the odd measure, or the even one! šŸ™„ I just take it as an opportunity to practice as perfect long bows as I canā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-rap-hip-hop-kl-fans-explain-the-superbowl-halftime-show-to-me/1014131/122 "2025-02-13T00:20:34Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > I tend not to be hugely into lyrics, but I couldnā€™t understand 99% of what he said/sang. ā€œTiramisuā€ was pretty much all I caught in the first bit. I can understand that his lyrics might be ā€œpoeticā€, but can other people understand them as sung, or do you need to read the ā€œliner notesā€? I didnā€™t watch the halftime show, but I just pulled up the YouTube video of it, and I was expecting something really incomprehensible given the descriptions. I may have missed a word here and there, but I understood like 90% of what he was saying. ETA: Not sure why this is showing as a reply to **Frosted\_Glass** ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-rap-hip-hop-kl-fans-explain-the-superbowl-halftime-show-to-me/1014131/123 "2025-02-13T00:32:13Z")
You are better than the 4 people aged 64-71 in the room I was in. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-rap-hip-hop-kl-fans-explain-the-superbowl-halftime-show-to-me/1014131/124 "2025-02-13T00:43:35Z")
Yeah, Iā€™m a generation younger than youse guys, so Iā€™m sure that helps. Stuff that I canā€™t make at all is like, death/doom/black metal some of my peers are into. A lot of that stuff goes way over my head, though they seem to enjoy it well enough. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-rap-hip-hop-kl-fans-explain-the-superbowl-halftime-show-to-me/1014131/125 "2025-02-13T00:50:22Z")
I didnā€™t see it live either, but it apperantly was remixed and cleaned up for the youtube upload. People are saying the sound mix drowned the vocals pretty badly live. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-rap-hip-hop-kl-fans-explain-the-superbowl-halftime-show-to-me/1014131/126 "2025-02-13T00:50:57Z")
Ah, that would make some more sense. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-rap-hip-hop-kl-fans-explain-the-superbowl-halftime-show-to-me/1014131/127 "2025-02-13T03:09:14Z")
Iā€™m not familiar with his work, but I do listen to rap, and I couldnā€™t understand a word he was saying watching it live. It sounded more like a sound system issue, rather than him not enuncosting. ---
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-rap-hip-hop-kl-fans-explain-the-superbowl-halftime-show-to-me/1014131/128 "2025-02-13T16:38:46Z")
As a 50-ish white guy who loved rap back in the Run DMC and NWA era, but could never get into liking the more modern lo-fi trap eras, the biggest ignorant revelation for me was the ā€˜crip walkā€™ dance that Serena Williams did. Without a lot of rabbit hole journey into what crip walking was, I wouldnā€™t have noted it as being any different than Courtney Cox dancing with Bruce Springsteen. Who knew Serena doing a whimsical little foot flippy dance had such heavy subtext? ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-rap-hip-hop-kl-fans-explain-the-superbowl-halftime-show-to-me/1014131/129 "2025-02-13T16:54:10Z")
Yeah, but that subtext changed dramatically around 1992 when, Americas sweetheart and Martha Stewartā€™s best friend, Snoop Dog started Cwalking all over the place, sort of all the time. [Even at the superbowl a few years ago](https://youtu.be/WIBnr9BTaIg?si=TxXB-sJtSic3bP_t) ---
**Author:** ![Frosted\_Glass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frosted_glass/32/3926_2.png) [@Frosted\_Glass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frosted_Glass)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-rap-hip-hop-kl-fans-explain-the-superbowl-halftime-show-to-me/1014131/130 "2025-02-13T23:42:21Z")
Agreed! In real life Iā€™ve seen far more white frat guys with no gang affiliations c-walking than people with actual affiliations. MTV beamed the c-walk into homes around the country and it hit the mainstream in the mid-90s. Iā€™ll never forget how surreal it was seeing a bunch of white kids c-walking at a frat party when I was still in high school. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2025, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-rap-hip-hop-kl-fans-explain-the-superbowl-halftime-show-to-me/1014131/131 "2025-02-15T20:04:28Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > Itā€™s almost entirely about rhythm and lyrics, not melody or music. Youā€™re right. Itā€™s a wheelhouse devoid of melody or music. A completely different form of entertainment. Itā€™s sad that itā€™s often filled with misogyny and the ā€œNā€ word. For reasons unknown the rapping industry seems to spawn violence from within itā€™s ranks. I donā€™t see the value it adds to a national passtime. > [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > The NFL is more interested in gaining new (younger) football fans, than appeasing a base that they already have locked in and that will never give up their Sunday ritual just because they donā€™t like the half time entertainment. There is a complete disconnect between watching a sporting event and a once-a-year block of 13 mins for entertainment. As for people who wouldnā€™t give up watching the Super Bowl they can and will turn off the half time show and the ads that follow it. I turned if off when I saw someone standing on a Grand National. I can only imagine what was done to the car. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-rap-hip-hop-kl-fans-explain-the-superbowl-halftime-show-to-me/1014131/132 "2025-02-15T20:26:20Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > I donā€™t see the value it adds to a national passtime. Entertainment value, for the vast majority of viewers. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2025, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-rap-hip-hop-kl-fans-explain-the-superbowl-halftime-show-to-me/1014131/133 "2025-02-15T20:33:17Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Itā€™s sad that itā€™s often filled with misogyny and the ā€œNā€ word. Iā€™m not a huge fan of rap. But Iā€™ve heard enough to know thereā€™s plenty that isnā€™t filled with misogyny and doesnā€™t use the ā€œNā€ word. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2025, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-rap-hip-hop-kl-fans-explain-the-superbowl-halftime-show-to-me/1014131/134 "2025-02-15T20:43:13Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > Iā€™m not a huge fan of rap. But Iā€™ve heard enough to know thereā€™s plenty that isnā€™t filled with misogyny and doesnā€™t use the ā€œNā€ word. And where is this rapper on your list? What will I see if I look up his lyrics? ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2025, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-rap-hip-hop-kl-fans-explain-the-superbowl-halftime-show-to-me/1014131/135 "2025-02-15T20:45:14Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > Entertainment value, for the vast majority of viewers. So youā€™re saying the majority of NFL viewers listen to rap? ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2025, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-rap-hip-hop-kl-fans-explain-the-superbowl-halftime-show-to-me/1014131/136 "2025-02-15T20:54:10Z")
Not him, her. Nicki Minaj, for example. Also, most of the musical ā€œHamiltonā€. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2025, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-rap-hip-hop-kl-fans-explain-the-superbowl-halftime-show-to-me/1014131/137 "2025-02-15T20:57:14Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > And where is this rapper on your list? What will I see if I look up his lyrics? Next time, you could just not turn it off and listen yourself, and then youā€™d know if the show featured the N-word and misogyny. But sure, explanations of the show from people who didnā€™t watch it are great too. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2025, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-rap-hip-hop-kl-fans-explain-the-superbowl-halftime-show-to-me/1014131/138 "2025-02-15T20:59:53Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Next time, you could just not turn it off and listen yourself, and then youā€™d know if the show featured the N-word and misogyny. I would guess it wouldnā€™t be allowed for the half time show. Iā€™ll ask again, where is the performer on the list of rapperā€™s who donā€™t use the ā€œNā€ word. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2025, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-rap-hip-hop-kl-fans-explain-the-superbowl-halftime-show-to-me/1014131/139 "2025-02-15T21:17:50Z")
Iā€™m not sure what your point is. If you were concerned about the N-word in the halftime show, then your worry is misplaced ā€“ it didnā€™t appear. If this is just a rant against rap, then I have no interest in doing research for you. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2025, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-rap-hip-hop-kl-fans-explain-the-superbowl-halftime-show-to-me/1014131/140 "2025-02-15T21:22:22Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Iā€™ll ask again, where is the performer on the list of rapperā€™s who donā€™t use the ā€œNā€ word. Fine, Salt-N-Pepa. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-rap-hip-hop-kl-fans-explain-the-superbowl-halftime-show-to-me/1014131.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-rap-hip-hop-kl-fans-explain-the-superbowl-halftime-show-to-me/1014131.md?page=8)