# Would the world be better off without Republicans? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 21, 2020, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-the-world-be-better-off-without-republicans/918679 "2020-08-21T16:48:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-the-world-be-better-off-without-republicans/918679/21 "2020-08-22T02:40:42Z")
Would the world be better off without the Republican party as it currently is? Sure, I’ll go along with that. Would the world be better off without all the individual people who voted Republican in the last round of elections? Whether you’re imagining them being killed off or just imagining them all mysteriously disappearing: no. ---
**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-the-world-be-better-off-without-republicans/918679/22 "2020-08-22T02:54:30Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Hey, you’ve already got some test cases for what happens when Democrats run everything. Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, St. Louis… Not really sure what this train of thought is getting at. “Republicans are evil, but Democrats can’t singlehandedly fix poverty, so there!” Ok? As an independent, I find much to dislike about the Dems, but I’d take houseless people over Nazis any day… And besides, the rural Republican areas are faring much worse. ---
**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-the-world-be-better-off-without-republicans/918679/23 "2020-08-22T02:55:59Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > Whether you’re imagining them being killed off or just imagining them all mysteriously disappearing: no. I think I’m more hoping for them to end up like the Germans after WW2: deeply apologetic for decades to come, with their leaders tried and executed for various crimes against humanity. ---
**Author:** ![MrMrmrmr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrmrmrmr/32/5828_2.png) [@MrMrmrmr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrMrmrmr)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-the-world-be-better-off-without-republicans/918679/24 "2020-08-26T22:41:49Z")
Which crimes are these? ---
**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-the-world-be-better-off-without-republicans/918679/25 "2020-08-26T22:57:08Z")
Climate change denial, the institutionalized slavery and murder of black people, fostering an American Nazi movement, willfully and fraudulently treating COVID like it’s nothing and killing nearly 200k, kids in cages, attacking Afghanistan and Iraq, arms sales to violent and repressive regimes… draw the lines as you please, but they ain’t no saints. And if Democrats are similarly guilty, and they should be tried as well. 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![MrMrmrmr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrmrmrmr/32/5828_2.png) [@MrMrmrmr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrMrmrmr)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-the-world-be-better-off-without-republicans/918679/26 "2020-08-26T23:02:17Z")
Could you tell me more about these Nazis? ---
**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-the-world-be-better-off-without-republicans/918679/27 "2020-08-26T23:04:34Z")
If you haven’t heard about them, perhaps it’s safer for you to stay under your rock. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-the-world-be-better-off-without-republicans/918679/28 "2020-08-26T23:10:46Z")
There needs to be an honest-to-goodness opposition party to hold Democrats accountable. The current GOP is so rotten in its timbers that it might need a total takedown and rebuild, but such a party must exist. Otherwise Democrats are perfectly capable of corruption, letting power go to their head, majority trampling over a minority, etc. if they are in a state of unchecked one-party rule, just like any other party of any other nation. It’s human nature; unchecked power is a recipe for corruption. The Republicans need a dozen or so cancerous tumors surgically removed; they need to become a party that takes pandemics seriously, global warming seriously, stops letting people own guns just because the Constitution says they can, raises taxes on the rich, actually balances the budget, holds people like Trump accountable for lying or corruption, does something meaningful about ripoff healthcare costs, learns to make more persuasive arguments for their side, and stops following the Constitution like it’s a divine or supreme legal document. ---
**Author:** ![MrMrmrmr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrmrmrmr/32/5828_2.png) [@MrMrmrmr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrMrmrmr)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-the-world-be-better-off-without-republicans/918679/29 "2020-08-26T23:24:02Z")
Under my rock, that seems a tad dismissive. Are you aware of some Nazi gatherings other than the tiki torch clusterfuck. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-the-world-be-better-off-without-republicans/918679/30 "2020-08-26T23:27:21Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > The Republicans need a dozen or so cancerous tumors surgically removed; they need to become a party that takes pandemics seriously, global warming seriously, stops letting people own guns just because the Constitution says they can, raises taxes on the rich, actually balances the budget, holds people like Trump accountable for lying or corruption, does something meaningful about ripoff healthcare costs, learns to make more persuasive arguments for their side, and stops following the Constitution like it’s a divine or supreme legal document. So they need to become moderate democrats. I agree with your concerns about one party rule, and the dissolution of the republican party does worry me specifically because of that. OTOH, I probably have more in agreement with moderate republicans than I have with AOC. If republicans could agree to the list that you have here, then I could get on board for the most part. I do think that if the republican party implodes, then it will not take long for the democrats to factionalize and split, with some realignments here and there. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-the-world-be-better-off-without-republicans/918679/31 "2020-08-26T23:44:28Z")
Not all Republicans. Only about 90% of them. Republicans clearly are far more interested in party than country these days. That’s demonstrated by their lack of compromise to help the country, and their lack of concern at Trump trying to destroy the USPS in order to get reelected. Destroying democratic structures to stay in power is what Communists and Nazis did. I used to be a Republican. I jumped ship in 2000 and I’m really glad I did. ---
**Author:** ![redhook77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f19dbf/32.png) [@redhook77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/redhook77)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-the-world-be-better-off-without-republicans/918679/32 "2020-08-26T23:53:45Z")
No, the world would be off without demorats (true commies,socialist and fascists). I would suggest burning a few more buildings, shutting down a few more states, crying racist a few more times and see how that works for you. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-the-world-be-better-off-without-republicans/918679/33 "2020-08-27T00:34:57Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > > [@Velocity](#): > > > > The Republicans need a dozen or so cancerous tumors surgically removed; they need to become a party that takes pandemics seriously, global warming seriously, stops letting people own guns just because the Constitution says they can, raises taxes on the rich, actually balances the budget, holds people like Trump accountable for lying or corruption, does something meaningful about ripoff healthcare costs, learns to make more persuasive arguments for their side, and stops following the Constitution like it’s a divine or supreme legal document. > > So they need to become moderate democrats. > > I agree with your concerns about one party rule, and the dissolution of the republican party does worry me specifically because of that. > > OTOH, I probably have more in agreement with moderate republicans than I have with AOC. If republicans could agree to the list that you have here, then I could get on board for the most part. > > _I do think that if the republican party implodes, then it will not take long for the democrats to factionalize and split, with some realignments here and there._ Exactly. The deletion of the Republican Party will not result in a one-party state. ---
**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-the-world-be-better-off-without-republicans/918679/34 "2020-08-27T02:31:37Z")
We’ll probably soon both get our wishes. Dead blues, dead reds, everyone screaming and shooting, Putin laughing, Jinping quietly scheming. Maybe the world would just be better off without all of us anyway. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-the-world-be-better-off-without-republicans/918679/35 "2020-08-27T16:34:09Z")
Tiki torch clusterfucks are random spontaneous events which have no antecedent planning or follow up? Then who the fuck were they? Goldfish? Fruitflys? ---
**Author:** ![MrMrmrmr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrmrmrmr/32/5828_2.png) [@MrMrmrmr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrMrmrmr)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-the-world-be-better-off-without-republicans/918679/36 "2020-08-27T20:02:57Z")
I don’t know, I wasn’t there. A bunch of white assholes would be my guess. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-the-world-be-better-off-without-republicans/918679/37 "2020-08-27T21:46:27Z")
They found each other randomly and spontaneously? ---
**Author:** ![MrMrmrmr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrmrmrmr/32/5828_2.png) [@MrMrmrmr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrMrmrmr)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-the-world-be-better-off-without-republicans/918679/38 "2020-08-27T23:53:33Z")
No, but I don’t see how Republicans are fostering a Nazi movement. The assholes are organizing without help from any party. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-the-world-be-better-off-without-republicans/918679/39 "2020-08-28T00:04:30Z")
I get that you want to place distance between the R party and nazism. What makes you think that tiki torch protesters were not organized by the same right wing that supported Trump in 2016, and support the New Trump Republican Party for 2020? ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2020, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-the-world-be-better-off-without-republicans/918679/40 "2020-08-28T00:11:21Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > It is a violent, anti-democratic, white nationalist political movement. Yup. Also one that plutocrats have hijacked. How is the world better due to more plutocracy, white nationalism and fascism? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-the-world-be-better-off-without-republicans/918679.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-the-world-be-better-off-without-republicans/918679.md?page=3)