# Would this woman date you? (Political...very political)

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 3, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741 "2018-04-03T19:12:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/1 "2018-04-03T19:12:02Z")

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> **[10 Things Every Intersectional Feminist Should Ask On a First Date](https://everydayfeminism.com/2017/12/intersectional-feminist-first-date/)**
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> If you’re not going to support marginalized folks, then we can’t be friends, let alone date. The personal is political.

The woman in the above article is (I believe) gay, so I’m right out of the picture, but let’s pretend she’s whatever orientation would make it possible for her to date you (which, I fear, is heteronormative, but let’s press on, shall we?)

She has a checklist of ten questions that you MUST. PASS. for her to consider you for a date. The first few seem reasonable: Do you believe that “Black Lives Matter”? I can see that being a legit dealbreaker. But the “Do you hate the Jews?” (aka BDS) one? And a bunch of the others? We’re dealing with someone who’s the cray-cray. She’s also inventing (or using someone else’s invented) lingo that’s completely incomprehensible to anyone not in her cult. My personal favorite? “pro-heauxism”. Which (after much looking) means that you’re in favor of (possibly black) women prostitutes. Heaux=Ho=Whore. Geddit? :rolleyes:

Do people actually think this way?I mean, I could imagine that I show up for a blind date with this person and she accosts me with a clipboard and wagging finger? Is this a weird fringe movement? It’s apparently not a parody (despite appearances). And do people talk this way?

(PS: I’m still not sure what intersectional feminism is, but it ain’t the feminism I’m familiar with)

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/2 "2018-04-03T19:15:36Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> (PS: I’m still not sure what intersectional feminism is, but it ain’t the feminism I’m familiar with)

Maybe you should Google that too before writing a diatribe about it. Later, if you want, you can diat, but not before.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/3 "2018-04-03T19:17:00Z")

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I’m thinking more IMHO. Off we go.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/4 "2018-04-03T19:17:53Z")

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6 of those are pretty much the same thing - “Do you treat all people the same?”

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/5 "2018-04-03T19:19:00Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> I’m thinking more IMHO. Off we go.

This is an outrage! I demand restitution!

😉

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/6 "2018-04-03T19:23:30Z")

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I’d be disqualified within seconds.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/7 "2018-04-03T19:24:32Z")

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Seriously, Everyday Feminism reads like a right-wing parody of feminism.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/8 "2018-04-03T19:26:52Z")

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For me, all ten items are perfectly fine things to have interests in, but aren’t central to my life or my interests. It sucks that bad things happen to people in those situations, but it is not–as the saying goes–my circus and is not my monkey. I woudn’t get in the way on those issues, but I have no interest in being an activist or ally for them, either.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/9 "2018-04-03T19:31:26Z")

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The article was pretty much self-explanatory and reasonably easy to understand. She seems to be looking for people that have the same understanding of what’s going on in the world as she does, and I see no problem with that-mental compatibility is as important to her as mental and/or physical compatibility.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/10 "2018-04-03T19:34:39Z")

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Not only no but WTF would I want to date her? I didn’t even bother read the whole mountain of gobbledygook.

She was raised in Switzerland. That alone is a huge strike against me; there may be two European nations with more different fundamental assumptions than Swiss and Spaniards, but so far I haven’t found them. In those places small enough for it, the Swiss don’t even put something to the vote until there is unanimity; Spaniards? When I first heard that joke about “two Jews, three opinions”, my reaction was “is that supposed to be peculiar?”; just today I was reading a book of minibiographies\* which claimed “get two of us in a room, you’ll have three different opinions; get a single one, you’ll have the makings of a civil war”. I found that she grew up in Switzerland in the paragraph in which apparently she expects me to start flagellating myself for the sins my foreparents did not commit against US natives: my interactions with actual US natives in which my nationality came up involved Seminole Elders welcoming me as a daughter of “their sister Spain”.

- _Vidas cipotudas_, for anybody who’s interested. “Lives of people who did the amazing stuff they did cos their gonads said so.”

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**Author:** ![MoonMoon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moonmoon/32/2959_2.png) [@MoonMoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoonMoon)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/11 "2018-04-03T19:42:38Z")

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1. Must not say cray-cray.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/12 "2018-04-03T19:44:17Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> The article was pretty much self-explanatory and reasonably easy to understand. She seems to be looking for people that have the same understanding of what’s going on in the world as she does, and I see no problem with that-mental compatibility is as important to her as mental and/or physical compatibility.

To late to correct: second “mental” should be “emotional”.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/13 "2018-04-03T19:45:06Z")

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Yeah, she’d have nothing to do with me. Not because I believe it’s ok to be a dick to people, but because that’s typically as deep as my morality goes. For me, it’s enough to just not be a dick.

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/14 "2018-04-03T20:01:56Z")

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Yep. She and I would get along fine. Well, except I’m married to a dude so I’m not in the dating pool in the first place, and my official stance on Israel/Palestine is that I don’t have a clear enough understanding of the region and the various struggles to speak in a meaningful and intelligent way, but if she wanted to discuss I’d be open to it, and mostly it would be great if less people in the region died as a matter of course.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/15 "2018-04-03T20:08:30Z")

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Even though she and I would agree on most things, that list and its wording make me roll my eyes so far back in my head, she’d think I was having an epileptic seizure. (Since her ‘allyship’ - rolleyes territory right there - includes disabled people, that wouldn’t be a problem for her, I know.)

No, if I were single, I’d have nothing to do with this woman, so I wouldn’t care if I came close enough to passing her test for her to want to date me. Her list reminds me of Marian the Librarian:

> [@](#):
>
> _Marian:_  
> Now, really Mama!  
> I have my standards where men are concerned,  
> And I have no intention–
> 
> _Mrs. Paroo:_  
> I know all about your standards  
> And if you don’t mind my sayin’ so  
> There’s not a man alive  
> Who could hope to measure up to that blend’a  
> Paul Bunyan, Saint Pat and Noah Webster  
> You’ve got concocted for yourself outta your Irish imagination, your Iowa stubbornness, and your liberry fulla’ books!

And that’s not how it works for most of us anyway. If the things she must know about me can be answered by a cardboard representation of my politics, with no need for _me_ to actually show up, then why would I waste my time on someone like that?

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/16 "2018-04-03T20:09:36Z")

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On at least 6 of the questions, my knee-jerk answer would offend her.

On 3 of the questions, my answer would have nuances that would almost certainly offend her.

On the 1 question where I think we actually agree, I would have to stifle the urge to phrase it in a manner designed to offend her.

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/17 "2018-04-03T20:11:41Z")

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I am willing to bet also that this woman is the type of person who is not willing to bend much, if at all, to accommodate the desires of a partner, but expects the partner to conform rigidly to her demands to the letter.

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**Author:** ![Quercus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7ab992/32.png) [@Quercus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quercus)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/18 "2018-04-03T20:21:16Z")

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Wow, what an insane person she is, truly. Wants women to be treated with the same level of respect as men! Thinks beating up queers is – get this! - NOT a good thing! She’s opposed to ripping off poor people! Wants people in wheelchairs to have opportunities to go to restaurants and theaters! Doesn’t think race-based lynching is something to be proud of!

And, what’s even more crazy, she doesn’t want to have a romantic relationship with someone who doesn’t believe in treating other people as actual humans!

Yeah, that’s all pretty cray-cray, am I right or am I white, um I mean, right?

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/19 "2018-04-03T20:23:35Z")

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> [@Quercus](#):
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> Wow, what an insane person she is, truly. Wants women to be treated with the same level of respect as men! Thinks beating up queers is – get this! - NOT a good thing! She’s opposed to ripping off poor people! Wants people in wheelchairs to have opportunities to go to restaurants and theaters! Doesn’t think race-based lynching is something to be proud of!
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> And, what’s even more crazy, she doesn’t want to have a romantic relationship with someone who doesn’t believe in treating other people as actual humans!
> 
> Yeah, that’s all pretty cray-cray, am I right or am I white, um I mean, right?
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> :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Don’t be so glib. I suspect she goes to 11.

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**Author:** ![Jennshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Jennshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennshark)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/20 "2018-04-03T20:29:18Z")

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BLECCHHH!

I went to grad school with this species of person and I’m having PTSD flashbacks to being trapped in three- hour seminars with self-righteous asses like this. My values are much the same as hers, but she sounds insufferable.

One of these twits berated me for being an “oppressor aligned with the toxic patriarchy” when I questioned street prostitution as being a form of female empowerment. Whatevs.

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