# Would this woman date you? (Political...very political)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 3, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741 "2018-04-03T19:12:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/61 "2018-04-04T15:16:00Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> I do believe Black Lives Matter. But let’s be honest; we’re done here. People with these sorts of lists don’t know what the hell they’re doing and usually have significant emotional problems.
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> Reading the article, I do not for an instant believe the writer is honestly stating her dating requirements. It sounds purely like she’s just showing off her political bona fides.

[She’s actually married](https://www.google.com/search?q=Lara+Witt+husband&client=firefox-b-1&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj0q5z_86DaAhWD3YMKHUe9B74Q_AUICSgA&biw=1056&bih=509&dpr=1.82). But her husband “isn’t a toxic, fragile pile of shit like most men.”

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/62 "2018-04-04T15:25:26Z")

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> [@zimaane](#):
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> I think the capitalist one would disqualify me. .

Honestly, that’s the only one of the 10 that would even give me pause. The rest is pretty much mainstream decency (couched in pseudo-academic language). Some of her critiques of capitalism are probably accurate, but I wouldn’t jump to anti-capitalism from that. She did, but she’s young. I knew a lot of 19-year-old Marxists back in the day.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/63 "2018-04-04T15:39:42Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> [She’s actually married](https://www.google.com/search?q=Lara+Witt+husband&client=firefox-b-1&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj0q5z_86DaAhWD3YMKHUe9B74Q_AUICSgA&biw=1056&bih=509&dpr=1.82). But her husband “isn’t a toxic, fragile pile of shit like most men.”

Lucky him. He’s not toxic and proves it by doing [60% of the chores](https://twitter.com/Femmefeministe/status/913412807655292928) because she has less incentive to be married than him.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/64 "2018-04-04T15:55:46Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> [She’s actually married](https://www.google.com/search?q=Lara+Witt+husband&client=firefox-b-1&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj0q5z_86DaAhWD3YMKHUe9B74Q_AUICSgA&biw=1056&bih=509&dpr=1.82). But her husband “isn’t a toxic, fragile pile of shit like most men.”

On behalf of toxic, fragile piles of shit everywhere, I want to thank her husband for taking her off the market.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/65 "2018-04-04T16:00:15Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> On behalf of toxic, fragile piles of shit everywhere, I want to thank her husband for taking her off the market.

Reading that series of tweets linked just above your post, I find it hard to imagine it being excessively long before he release her back onto the market. See, her job of writing articles is so difficult that he must do 60% of the housework, and he puts up with it because men need marriage more than women do. And he just brought a latte in bed because that is what husbands are supposed to do.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/66 "2018-04-04T16:03:34Z")

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From her Twitter feed -

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> My husband loved me when I still hated myself.

Now it’s vice versa. Progress!

But you gotta love someone who talks as she does about her husband, and then, apparently un-ironically posts

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> If anyone who reads this is going through an abusive situation, know that you are worthy of being loved.

I have read enough of her Twitter to amend that to “almost anyone”.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/67 "2018-04-04T16:15:19Z")

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Wow. What an attention whoring asshole. Only a matter of time before life kicks her arrogant basic ass.

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/68 "2018-04-04T16:18:38Z")

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Can’t read the checklist - it’s linked to some spammy thing - but from other comments here esp. the “flashbacks to grad school” post, I’d guess that she’s too insufferable for me to like her, and I don’t flaunt my “allyship” or whatevs nearly enough for her to like me.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/69 "2018-04-04T16:24:11Z")

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I’m more fascinated by what human door mat thinks it’s a good idea to stick his dick in that amount of crazy.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/70 "2018-04-04T17:40:56Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I’m more fascinated by what human door mat thinks it’s a good idea to stick his dick in that amount of crazy.

You have to consider the possibility she’s not a reliable narrator.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/71 "2018-04-04T17:50:54Z")

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I don’t know if “My wife uses me to advance her feminist agenda by lying about the amount of housework I do and her commitment to our marriage on Twitter” is much of an alternative.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/72 "2018-04-04T18:42:40Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> I don’t know if “My wife uses me to advance her feminist agenda by lying about the amount of housework I do and her commitment to our marriage on Twitter” is much of an alternative.

I think **RickJay** may be suggesting there may not actually be a Mr. Doormat.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/73 "2018-04-04T20:05:17Z")

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Perhaps when she asks “what do you think of BDS”, she’s leaving off an M.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/74 "2018-04-04T20:09:19Z")

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I wouldn’t date her either (and she wouldn’t date me, since I don’t support Death to Israel and don’t disagree with immigration laws in principle), and I clearly get that her list of dealbreaker questions (and the way a number of them are phrased) is off putting to a lot of people. What I don’t get is the objections by people like Guinastasia and Fenris to the basic idea of someone having a list of dealbreakers and asking about them early on. If someone is this vehement about certain issues, isn’t it better for both people if they bring it up on or before the first date so no one is wasting time and energy on someone who’s fundamentally incompatible with them? The idea that you need to spend multiple dates and maybe get physically intimate (remember the “third date rule”) before finding out if things that you fundamentally require from a partner are there just seems weird to me. I’d certainly rather find out that someone is just plain incompatible with me right of the bad than invest a significant amount of time and emotional energy in them and start getting attached.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/75 "2018-04-04T20:14:46Z")

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I would go out with her once or twice as a challenge. It would be miserable for her and entertaining for me but that is the fun. An actual relationship though, hell no, I would rather date a 300 pound guy with Tourette’s, chronic BO and adult acne. I don’t feel bad for her husband at all. He knew what he was getting into and did it anyway. Maybe he will learn to do better the next time.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/76 "2018-04-04T20:16:36Z")

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@Pantastic:  
But those are just her political dealbreakers, and it’s longish. I have a feeling “leaves the toilet seat up” is an unmentioned dealbreaker.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/77 "2018-04-04T20:36:47Z")

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> [@Pantastic](#):
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> I wouldn’t date her either (and she wouldn’t date me, since I don’t support Death to Israel and don’t disagree with immigration laws in principle), and I clearly get that her list of dealbreaker questions (and the way a number of them are phrased) is off putting to a lot of people. What I don’t get is the objections by people like Guinastasia and Fenris to the basic idea of someone having a list of dealbreakers and asking about them early on. If someone is this vehement about certain issues, isn’t it better for both people if they bring it up on or before the first date so no one is wasting time and energy on someone who’s fundamentally incompatible with them? The idea that you need to spend multiple dates and maybe get physically intimate (remember the “third date rule”) before finding out if things that you fundamentally require from a partner are there just seems weird to me. I’d certainly rather find out that someone is just plain incompatible with me right of the bad than invest a significant amount of time and emotional energy in them and start getting attached.

Pretty sure anybody even considering dating her would appreciate the warning. Might even call it a bullet dodged.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/78 "2018-04-04T20:46:45Z")

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It’s also possible that her list of deal-breakers is a bit more hard and fast and cut and dried when she’s writing a polemic for a feminist website than they are in real life.

Another possibility is that the list of deal-breakers exists in real life, but it’s just a way to avoid intimacy. Maybe her real enemy is…herself.

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**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/79 "2018-04-04T21:23:59Z")

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We wouldn’t date. But then, I wouldn’t date either the OP (who translates the Palestinian point as “Hate the Jews”), or the first responder, (who calls out the OP for “staying in his lane” on intersectional feminism).

For me, the critical point isn’t the OTT politicalization of all aspects of her life: when I was young, many of my friends were political. It’s the ignorant naivety of her stance on settler colonialism and indigenous rights. I would disrespect that: ze/ne/ou would object to my disrespect.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-woman-date-you-political-very-political/811741/80 "2018-04-04T21:38:29Z")

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One thing is that BDS isn’t as benevolent to Palestinians as some people think. Consider what happened when [SodaStream](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SodaStream#Controversy) moved out of the West Bank following a boycott. Who lost their jobs? (Hint: it wasn’t Israeli workers)

> [@BigT](#):
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> I’m not sure where this idea that she presents these questions on the first date comes from.

Perhaps because the title of the article is “10 Things Every Intersectional Feminist Should Ask On a **First Date** ”.  
(Bolding mine)

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