# Would this work?  i.e how to get a date and not end up in jail

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [May 12, 2011, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-work-i-e-how-to-get-a-date-and-not-end-up-in-jail/581722 "2011-05-12T23:36:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-work-i-e-how-to-get-a-date-and-not-end-up-in-jail/581722/21 "2011-05-14T02:46:43Z")

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Aren’t we making a huge assumption that a police officer _wouldn’t_ show you her tits?

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**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-work-i-e-how-to-get-a-date-and-not-end-up-in-jail/581722/22 "2011-05-14T03:33:40Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> Aren’t we making a huge assumption that a police officer _wouldn’t_ show you her tits?

You actually think that a female law enforcement officer, working undercover, presumably on camera or a recording device (I imagine they would need some proof beyond a cop’s say-so?) would expose herself to a potential misdemeanor collar that she was trying to bust?

I suppose if it was a cop who was deep undercover on a serious organized crime/drug ring case who was asked to strip/inject dope/help with a burglary etc. to show that they were indeed on the bad guys side, they might go along, if just to protect their own personal safety, (if they refused, their cover would be blown and they might end up dead) but for a petty crime like prostitution, it is almost incomprehensible that a woman officer would go along with flashing her breasts so some guy can get a $300 fine and 20 hours of community service.

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**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-work-i-e-how-to-get-a-date-and-not-end-up-in-jail/581722/23 "2011-05-14T03:47:09Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> Aren’t we making a huge assumption that a police officer _wouldn’t_ show you her tits?

I wasn’t trying to be snarky in my above post, I just can’t conceive of a undercover officer or her superiors going for this to snag a petty criminal.

No offense intended!

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-work-i-e-how-to-get-a-date-and-not-end-up-in-jail/581722/24 "2011-05-14T03:48:06Z")

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> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#):
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> You actually think that a female law enforcement officer, working undercover, presumably on camera or a recording device (I imagine they would need some proof beyond a cop’s say-so?) would expose herself to a potential misdemeanor collar that she was trying to bust?

I think I don’t know what to think. I know that cops are allowed to break the law when undercover, but I have no idea what the personal views of every female undercover cop might be on opening her shirt.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-work-i-e-how-to-get-a-date-and-not-end-up-in-jail/581722/25 "2011-05-14T14:05:43Z")

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In Utah, apparently, there was the reverse problem, with undercover cops trying to [catch prostitutes](http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/51781087-78/law-mccullough-officers-police.html.csp).

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> Prostitutes, savvy to operations set up by police to catch them in the act, would proceed to demand that undercover officers masturbate or touch the prostitute’s breasts to “prove” they weren’t law enforcement, Salt Lake City Police Chief Chris Burbank said Monday.
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> “That is problematic for police officers,” Burbank said. “I don’t want to put my officers in that situation.”
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> Burbank brought the issue to state Rep. Jennifer Seelig, D-Salt Lake City, who in turn introduced HB121. The bill, enacted into a law that takes effect today, amends Utah’s sexual solicitation law to include several behaviors that now constitute soliciting sex — a crime that is a class B misdemeanor punishable by up to six months in jail and a fine.

That being Utah, I suspect that they just cracked down on the prostitutes without attempting to crack down harder on the johns.

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**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-work-i-e-how-to-get-a-date-and-not-end-up-in-jail/581722/26 "2011-05-14T14:22:27Z")

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> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#):
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> You actually think that a female law enforcement officer, working undercover, presumably on camera or a recording device (I imagine they would need some proof beyond a cop’s say-so?) would expose herself to a potential misdemeanor collar that she was trying to bust?

I remember a news story a while ago where the entire prostitution bust hinged on the fact that the officer ejaculated in the prostitutes mouth rather than her start performing oral sex on him then he busts her. I remember being really shocked at how common it was for officers to have actual sexual contact before making an arrest. Naively, I thought the busts were like the ones on tv. Price list for sex, then an arrest.

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-work-i-e-how-to-get-a-date-and-not-end-up-in-jail/581722/27 "2011-05-14T20:19:26Z")

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> [@An\_Arky](#):
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> There is no substitute for sex with someone who actually wants to have sex with you, no matter how much you pay.

Not moralizing at all; it’s just better sex.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-this-work-i-e-how-to-get-a-date-and-not-end-up-in-jail/581722/28 "2011-05-15T00:03:01Z")

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> [@LurkerInNJ](#):
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> I remember a news story a while ago where the entire prostitution bust hinged on the fact that the officer ejaculated in the prostitutes mouth rather than her start performing oral sex on him then he busts her. I remember being really shocked at how common it was for officers to have actual sexual contact before making an arrest. Naively, I thought the busts were like the ones on tv. Price list for sex, then an arrest.

Police Detective: “Prostitution is an even scrounge on this city commissioner. I don’t care how long it takes for me to get rid of it even if I have to screw even damn last one of them personally.”

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