# Would Trump be allowed to take office if he wins the election?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 31, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-be-allowed-to-take-office-if-he-wins-the-election/770292 "2016-10-31T19:57:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-be-allowed-to-take-office-if-he-wins-the-election/770292/81 "2016-11-01T05:26:24Z")

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> [@Icarus](#):
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> Nah, the military and security apparatus will do what they always do, and what they did with Obama. They would sit him down and carefully, slowly, repeatedly until it sinks in, explain to him how thing really work in the world (in their view). They will do this until they get him on board. No need for a “coup” when you’re already in charge.

And when they were finished, the POTUS would say, “Thank you very much for your input, ladies and gentlemen, but I am the Commander-in-Chief, and here are my orders.”

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-be-allowed-to-take-office-if-he-wins-the-election/770292/82 "2016-11-01T07:11:10Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> And when they were finished, the POTUS would say, “Thank you very much for your input, ladies and gentlemen, but I am the Commander-in-Chief, and here are my orders.”

“That’s unfortunate that you feel that way. In that case, time for Plan B.” (See OP, rinse, repeat.)

> [@Colibri](#):
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> My apologies for giving you more credit than you deserved in stating you recognized the idea was absurd. That makes you even more of a fuckwit for proposing it seriously.

Says the person who, it turns out, really couldn’t comprehend a pretty straightforwardly laid out proposition. (Sorry, I guess, for calling you dishonest–although in doing so I was giving you more credit than you apparently deserve for basic reading comprehension.) And to think: they let you play with the moderation tools. Don’t hurt yourself, bub! 😛

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-be-allowed-to-take-office-if-he-wins-the-election/770292/83 "2016-11-01T08:09:04Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> It’d be easier to just rebuild the set of _The West Wing_ and drop Trump off there. I doubt he’ll notice or care. Heck, leave all the cameras in place and tell him it’s a new presidential reality show, he’ll buy that.

🙂

Okay, that is THE FUNNIEST thing I’ve read in election-related comments, and I’ve read tomes of them. Thank you. All I can think of is how perfectly hilarious this would be, I work in Hollywood, and I’m pitching this idea to someone tomorrow. I will credit you too.

> [@grayhairedmomma](#):
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> Who are you crazy people? The military leaders don’t get to choose who’s president. Jesus Christ. The only thing they get to do is refuse to carry out crazy-ass orders. If you don’t want Trump in office, get off your ass and work to make sure civilians vote. Jesus Christ. You people need to move somewhere else where they do crazy-ass coups every time you turn around. Jesus Christ.

Yes, agreed. With this election, I agree with shouting, “Jesus Christ” many times. I usually go with “Jesus Fucking Christ”, though. I gotta turn off the goddamn morning news on the car radio. 😉

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-be-allowed-to-take-office-if-he-wins-the-election/770292/84 "2016-11-01T08:12:35Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> 🙂
> 
> Okay, that is THE FUNNIEST thing I’ve read in election-related comments, and I’ve read tomes of them. Thank you. All I can think of is how perfectly hilarious this would be, I work in Hollywood, and I’m pitching this idea to someone tomorrow. I will credit you too.

Thanks. If the project needs any voice-over work, I have a charming baritone.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-be-allowed-to-take-office-if-he-wins-the-election/770292/85 "2016-11-01T09:16:25Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> “That’s unfortunate that you feel that way. In that case, time for Plan B.” (See OP, rinse, repeat.)
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> Says the person who, it turns out, really couldn’t comprehend a pretty straightforwardly laid out proposition. (Sorry, I guess, for calling you dishonest–although in doing so I was giving you more credit than you apparently deserve for basic reading comprehension.) And to think: they let you play with the moderation tools. Don’t hurt yourself, bub! 😛

You need to change your username to **FuckwitInc**.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-be-allowed-to-take-office-if-he-wins-the-election/770292/86 "2016-11-01T09:24:21Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> You need to change your username to **FuckwitInc**.

Wow, \*awesome \*burn. You must have leaned back in your chair after writing that, and just basked in your moment of triumph.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-be-allowed-to-take-office-if-he-wins-the-election/770292/87 "2016-11-01T09:27:03Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> You need to change your username to **FuckwitInc**.

Nah, the “inc” implies limited liability. He’s more of a **FuckWitSoleProprietorship**.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-be-allowed-to-take-office-if-he-wins-the-election/770292/88 "2016-11-01T09:30:48Z")

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Sharp comedy act, you two. You’re slaying. I think you’re ready to take it on the road, maybe send an audition tape to SNL. 😉

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-be-allowed-to-take-office-if-he-wins-the-election/770292/89 "2016-11-01T09:36:42Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Sharp comedy act, you two. You’re slaying. I think you’re ready to take it on the road, maybe send an audition tape to SNL. 😉

Y’know, the solution to this sort of treatment is not to make feeble ripostes, but to be smarter in future, and part of\* that\* is to not start dumb threads like this one but if you _must_, know when to cut your losses and abandon ship rather than fight on while the deck burns around you.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-be-allowed-to-take-office-if-he-wins-the-election/770292/90 "2016-11-01T09:38:02Z")

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We’ll be bigger than Aykroyd and Belushi! 😃

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-be-allowed-to-take-office-if-he-wins-the-election/770292/91 "2016-11-01T09:40:06Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Y’know, the solution to this sort of treatment is not to make feeble ripostes, but to be smarter in future, and part of\* that\* is to not start dumb threads like this one but if you _must_, know when to cut your losses and abandon ship rather than fight on while the deck burns around you.

Ohhh…yessir. So solly sir. \<bows and scrapes, backing out of the room apologetically\>

Or, wait: maybe you could just eat me. Yeah, let’s go with that.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-be-allowed-to-take-office-if-he-wins-the-election/770292/92 "2016-11-01T09:59:56Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Ohhh…yessir. So solly sir. \<bows and scrapes, backing out of the room apologetically\>
> 
> Or, wait: maybe you could just eat me. Yeah, let’s go with that.

Neither response is useful, but the first at least recognizes your limitations.

There’s no magic trick to this sort of thing - if you start a thread and think you’re being personally insulted by people who question your thread’s premise, it’s time for you to grow up a little. I’ve been there and I suspect many of us have.

If you won’t grow up, rethink your premise, recognize its limitations, rephrase, re-present, bolster, support… then people \*will \*start insulting you personally and you \*will \*deserve it because your attitude will contain an implied insult in itself - the arrogant assumption that we’re not capable of independently analyzing a given premise and coming to the “right” conclusion, i.e. _your_ conclusion.  
Also: “So solly sir.” ? Really? You’re taking pointers from Mel Blanc’s wartime voicing of Japanese cartoon characters? Why don’t you throw in some Stepin Fetchit for good measure? Jerk.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-be-allowed-to-take-office-if-he-wins-the-election/770292/93 "2016-11-01T10:40:38Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Also: “So solly sir.” ? Really? You’re taking pointers from Mel Blanc’s wartime voicing of Japanese cartoon characters? Why don’t you throw in some Stepin Fetchit for good measure? Jerk.

You’re right, that’s a bit dated. Let’s move ahead to millennial-era animation catchphrases:

“Hey, GI Joe: you wanna luv me long time? Suckee suckee, fie dolla!” 😛

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-be-allowed-to-take-office-if-he-wins-the-election/770292/94 "2016-11-01T11:08:24Z")

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> [@grayhairedmomma](#):
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> Who are you crazy people? The military leaders don’t get to choose who’s president. Jesus Christ. The only thing they get to do is refuse to carry out crazy-ass orders. If you don’t want Trump in office, get off your ass and work to make sure civilians vote. Jesus Christ. You people need to move somewhere else where they do crazy-ass coups every time you turn around. Jesus Christ.

The cool thing in American elections is the military, as individual citizens, gets to vote just like other citizens.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-be-allowed-to-take-office-if-he-wins-the-election/770292/95 "2016-11-01T11:12:21Z")

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> [@Hector\_St\_Clare](#):
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> In response to the OP, I think there’s a decent chance the military gets involved to prevent Trump from taking office, probably by the expedient of convincing the Republican Electors to choose someone else, and maybe by ‘convincing’ them that he’s psychologically unfit to be president.

Why would you think such nonsense is the case?

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-be-allowed-to-take-office-if-he-wins-the-election/770292/96 "2016-11-01T11:17:33Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Why would you think such nonsense is the case?

In other contexts, I’d wager this kind of American exceptionalist talk would be snarked at by the very same camp advancing it here. “Can’t Happen Here”, right? One problem: the triggering hypothesis in this conditional is \*itself \*something we didn’t think could happen (and which I still don’t believe will happen, although it’s going to be too close for comfort). Therefore, to express such certitude in your dubiousness about the conclusion we are advancing is essentially to take a leap of faith.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-be-allowed-to-take-office-if-he-wins-the-election/770292/97 "2016-11-01T11:22:51Z")

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Keep on fucking that chicken, **SlackerInc**.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-be-allowed-to-take-office-if-he-wins-the-election/770292/98 "2016-11-01T11:58:55Z")

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> [@Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](#):
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> Who’s crazier? Trump supporters or Hillary supporters? Who’s better armed?

This is too good a point to overlook. Except that the OP leads me to wonder if it is always the Trump supporters who are crazier.

Another problem is that neither Ryan nor Romney would even consider the proposition for a split-second. Nor would any other Republican in the House, or the Senate. Nor would any Democrat, Hillary included. Any military leader who suggested a coup would find himself before a court-martial before his medals stopped clanking.

Trump would be a horrible, no good, very bad President. Overturning the Constitution would be almost infinitely worse.

Grow the fuck up.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-be-allowed-to-take-office-if-he-wins-the-election/770292/99 "2016-11-01T12:13:40Z")

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The efficacy and courage of armed rednecks against organized force is vastly overrated. If they were ever going to demonstrate otherwise, they would have done so either during the civil rights era of the mid-20th century, or during its antecedent a century earlier, the Radical Republican Reconstruction occupation of the South.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-be-allowed-to-take-office-if-he-wins-the-election/770292/100 "2016-11-01T12:29:13Z")

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SlackerInc, seriously (that ship sailed, evidently), are you posting drunk?

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