# Would Trump survive a term?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-survive-a-term/761539>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [August 2, 2016, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-survive-a-term/761539 "2016-08-02T10:26:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2016, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-survive-a-term/761539/21 "2016-08-03T05:37:58Z")

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> [@up\_the\_junction](#):
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> eh?
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> Brexit was a profoundly sane choice, thanks.

In what way? It’s completely destroying Britain’s economy, at the least.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2016, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-survive-a-term/761539/22 "2016-08-03T05:46:01Z")

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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> People said the same thing about his campaign, that he would get bored and quit. The Presidency is what one makes of it; I can’t imagine why he would get bored of it.

He’d screw it up, find that he can’t declare bankruptcy, and then quit.

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**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2016, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-survive-a-term/761539/23 "2016-08-03T05:51:57Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> In what way? It’s completely destroying Britain’s economy, at the least.

The kindest thing that can be said about your statement is that it’s irresponsible hyperbole.

> [@](#):
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> One month on from the referendum, there is no sign of the Treasury’s VAR model predictions coming to fruition. London is teeming with people, many of them foreign visitors, spending money in cafes, restaurants, theatres and other visitor attractions. The country roads are still jammed with caravans, tractors, tourists and white vans trying in all their productive mayhem to go about their business. Wimpish businessmen dithering over trade and investment plans are being forced to get on with life, and it should be noted that turncoat Remain supporter, GSK, this week announced a massive new capital investment programme, one of several such announcements in recent days.

> **[ZeroHedge](https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-30/one-month-later-brexit-post-mortem)**
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> ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

It is true that the UK’s economy MAY be headed towards a recession, but–

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> There were already signs the economy was slowing down before the referendum.

> **[One month on, what has been the impact of the Brexit vote so far?](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/22/one-month-on-what-is-the-impact-of-the-brexit-vote-so-far)**
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> It is a month since Britain voted to leave the European Union. What difference has it made to our economy and society so far?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Lebodnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/fbc32d/32.png) [@Mr.Lebodnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Lebodnik)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2016, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-survive-a-term/761539/24 "2016-08-03T06:13:41Z")

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He certainly would survive.  
The leftist stench is strong in this thread…

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2016, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-survive-a-term/761539/25 "2016-08-03T09:19:02Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> The kindest thing that can be said about your statement is that it’s irresponsible hyperbole.  
> [ZeroHedge](http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-30/one-month-later-brexit-post-mortem)
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> It is true that the UK’s economy MAY be headed towards a recession, but–
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> [One month on, what has been the impact of the Brexit vote so far? | Brexit | The Guardian](http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/22/one-month-on-what-is-the-impact-of-the-brexit-vote-so-far)

The UK hasn’t actually Brexited. This is like predicting that it will be cold when winter comes, then taking the temperature in July, and going, “Nope, I guess not.”

Of course, if Brexit does happen, there are a lot of paths down which it could go, so any prediction is going to be pretty questionable. But, many paths probably do lead to steady marginalization over the course of years and decades. And again, you wouldn’t be able to detect that in a few weeks, let alone before the thing actually happened.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2016, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-survive-a-term/761539/26 "2016-08-03T12:08:25Z")

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> [@Lee\_Q](#):
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> [This article](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/magazine/how-donald-trump-picked-his-running-mate.html?_r=3&mtrref=undefined)at the NYT sure suggests otherwise. Excerpt:
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> \*\*But according to the Kasich adviser (who spoke only under the condition that he not be named), Donald Jr. wanted to make him an offer nonetheless: Did he have any interest in being the most powerful vice president in history?
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> When Kasich’s adviser asked how this would be the case, Donald Jr. explained that his father’s vice president would be in charge of domestic and foreign policy.
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> Then what, the adviser asked, would Trump be in charge of?
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> “Making America great again” was the casual reply.  
> \*\*

Sorry, but I see a vast gulf between what Trump may have said and what Trump would actually follow through on.

Assume Trump made the same promise to Pence and they get elected. What do you think will happen the first time Pence does something Trump doesn’t agree with? Do you really think Trump will feel bound by his promise? Or when Trump just feels bored with the ceremonial stuff and decides he wants to be hands on? Or when the press starts saying Pence is the real President and Trump’s ego kicks in?

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2016, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-survive-a-term/761539/27 "2016-08-03T12:21:27Z")

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> [@Mr.Lebodnik](#):
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> He certainly would survive.  
> The leftist stench is strong in this thread…

This is out of line for this forum. Don’t use personal insults here.

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2016, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-survive-a-term/761539/28 "2016-08-03T12:22:38Z")

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There are other threads for general discussion of Brexit. Please drop the hijack here.

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2016, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-survive-a-term/761539/29 "2016-08-03T13:14:19Z")

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In fact, I speculated the day Pence was named (in this forum) that it was Trump’s intention all along to just get inaugurated (for his own puffery), and wanted to have a credible statesman to turn the office over to when he got bored with it after a few months. In other words, he didn’t want to BE president, he wanted to appoint the president. I still have no reason to believe otherwise.

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**Author:** ![Dereknocue67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6de8d8/32.png) [@Dereknocue67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dereknocue67)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-survive-a-term/761539/30 "2016-08-04T08:25:54Z")

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It is possible Trump may survive a full term but a more realistic scenario may be, would we survive?

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**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2016, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-survive-a-term/761539/31 "2016-08-05T20:44:15Z")

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I think it’s very unlikely he would resign or be assassinated, if elected. There’s really no reason for him to resign, and I think that the people who protect the physical security of the President are professional and effective.

He might be quite unpopular. I expect he would be sort of a figurehead president with the actual governing being done by Pence, except for sporadic fanfare to show that he’s the head honcho. As long as the rest of the GOP kowtows to him, he’ll let them get most of what they want. For that reason, I expect an impeachment to be unlikely, although I’m less confident in that prediction.

I expect that cronyism would be a _huge_ problem with his administration, given how he tends to prioritize loyalty and personal support over pretty much everything else.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2016, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-survive-a-term/761539/32 "2016-08-05T21:23:35Z")

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> [@jtur88](#):
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> In fact, I speculated the day Pence was named (in this forum) that it was Trump’s intention all along to just get inaugurated (for his own puffery), and wanted to have a credible statesman to turn the office over to when he got bored with it after a few months. In other words, he didn’t want to BE president, he wanted to appoint the president. I still have no reason to believe otherwise.

Pence seems more like the Republican party’s pick than Trump’s. He seems like the sort of person that Trump would choose in order to get the party’s backing, than because he wants to be able to decide who should lead the country.

I also might note that Pence seems like the exact worst sort of Republican. Trump’s ideas might seem fascist and horrendous, but they’re all stupid enough that you don’t really have to worry about them becoming law. Pence’s ideas are also really creepy and horrible, but could actually become law. Of the two, I’d rather Trump in the President’s seat than Pence.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2016, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-survive-a-term/761539/33 "2016-08-05T21:31:51Z")

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If Trump does get elected, hopefully the Cabinet will invoke the 2/3+VP rule and boot him out.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2016, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-survive-a-term/761539/34 "2016-08-05T22:34:15Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> If Trump does get elected, hopefully the Cabinet will invoke the 2/3+VP rule and boot him out.

As I said in my previous post, I’d be much more fearful of Pence in the big seat than Trump.

Trump will spend 4 years being told he’s an idiot and being ignored by the legislature.

Pence might actually get some laws passed.

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