# Would US troops fire on Canadian civilians? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 8, 2025, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-us-troops-fire-on-canadian-civilians/1014046 "2025-02-08T11:58:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 146
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> [@Aeschines](#): > > I know that _you_ know that this isn’t true, that we have powerful blue states and powerful blue cities within the mostly weaker red states, and that the disproportionate power that the fascists wield is mostly due to bad and hackable structures baked into our constitution, and so on. So I won’t belabor the point. I’m just amazed. I’m not giving my opinion when I say that the fascists won your government, and did so wholly and legitimately. Its just the reality. You, yourself, offer no counter to this statement, but simply curse the system itself and blindly call their influence as “disproportionate”. No, this time it was proportionate to your country’s vote and a good reflection of their choice of political representation. > Trump is the ultimate conman and hacker of systems in the 21st century. He is not. He just appeals to Americans desire for an immoral, irresponsible, criminal, tyrant. There’s a lot of blind, cruelty-worship, baked in what Americans want as political representatives. This is just what it is. > Liberals are weak in our system, it is true, because following the rule of law means getting absolutely nothing done at all. The senate alone prevents anything from happening. I’m not going to pretend that I fully understand your system. But I do see the systematic strengthening of extreme right-wing policies and a blind disregard for law, truth, or human suffering. A whole set of continuous American liberal failures have brought us all here: where Canada hears aggressive militaristic expansionist talk from our southern border. > I need evidence that a large contingent is cheering Trump on wrt those things. Well, I guess I’ll dig something up then. It shouldn’t be difficult as I don’t think his idiot followers know nor care of the ramifications of such actions. But I’ll withdraw that comment until I get it. > Sadly, not a small number of Canadians are Trumpers too. My best friend is married to a Canadian and his father-in-law–hoo boy. Trump nut par excellence. There’s a lot I hate about our Canadian right-wing, but it doesn’t manifest itself in the same ways as the US right does. Although they have tried the tactics of “The country is dying/fallen!”, and other alarmist talk to scare the public enough to vote out the Liberals (who are/were on borrowed time anyways). The real scammers are the Canadian right-wing independent faux media. Its a cottage industry of stone cold scammers and grifters preying on fearful/lonely/alienated middle-aged folk and elderly. Scare them, offer community, ask for money. Repeat. > [@Aeschines](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > tl;dr - You should’ve controlled your guns > > We have a moronic thing in our constitution called the “2nd Amendment.” Oh, and amending the constitution is impossible, so… That’s still a failure. Give any other non-warzone country such a continuous string of child slaughters and I bet there would’ve action. In fact I bet, every single country with a gun law on-the-books came from a very very sad real life event. The US liberals are just too weak to change this. > [@](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Obama should’ve just confirmed his SC pick > > That doesn’t make any sense. The idiot senate confirms. The president has no power to strong arm anyone in such a case. I don’t know if he could or could not have pushed it through. I’m just working off a fragmented image of an article I must have read over 5 years ago now. > [@](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Its also possible he could violate our sovereignty in a thousand ways short of annexation given the inclination. > > Like what, concretely speaking? > > Trump is an old swine with his eyes half-closed at this point. He doesn’t have the wherewithal to plan sneaky little ways to fuck with Canada. That’s why he’s talking in broad strokes and making big dumb threats. If he tries delegating “fucking with Canada with finesse” to someone else, he will not find success, as the right people are not in place. In Canada, we have a problem with foreign interference in our politics (mostly China and Russia), or our civil order (India’s assassination of dissidents), the US could do INSANE amounts of violations if it desired so. We are not a closed society like Cuba, if the CIA decided to inject a little chaos in any sphere of Canadian public society they could do so without much effort or trace. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-us-troops-fire-on-canadian-civilians/1014046)._