Would you be a dip to try this chip?

Hey, it’s either inject microchips, or tattoo numbers on their arms.

Humor-it is a difficult concept. :slight_smile:

Well, good luck on your next attempt! :slight_smile:

Thanks.
It’s a tough crowd.

Sorry, this is way too 1984 for me.

“You weren’t enthusiastic enough at Physical Jerks today as determined by our range-of-motion sensor. Report to Rehabilitation.”

This is some blogger mixing her own speculations with the speculations of a not so sober AP article on a rather mundane experiment in technology.

It’s an imbedded no-contact employee card. Other than being nearly impossible to lose accidentally, and hard to lose on purpose, it doesn’t normally do anything or disallow anything the employer or employee is supposed to do with such a card.

Now outside of the normal it makes it close to impossible to have your buddy clock in for you, or send your kid down to fetch you both lunch on “bring your kid to work day”. And an employer could theoretically set up detectors in the bathroom, which would also register you if you didn’t leave your company ID at your desk.

But if you really want to be paranoid this chip is not so deep in your body you couldn’t fish it out yourself with no long term damage, and glued to your skin with a bit of movie magic prosthetic work, no one would be any the wiser.

Are there any actual legal restrictions on what may or may not be monitored, where it might be monitored, and when it might be monitored? Are there any laws about showing favoritism to those who get the implants?

Is this supposed “benign” aspect legally enforced, or a whim of the company?

Well, it would be a fun coincidence if naita was fluent in Swedish labour laws but I wouldn’t count on it.

It’s Sweden. There are definitely laws about what employers can register and how companies can treat their employees. And yes, they are enforced.

There’s also the practical issue. This is, as others have already pointed out, just a passive RFID chip. It can only be used by putting up detection points, and those points can only register “This chip was in range at this time.”

I’m not fluent in Swedish labour law, no, but Scandinavia in general is big on employee protection.

And the U.S. has speed limit laws…but that doesn’t tell me jack about whether whether school zones are enforced during summer vacations. This technology is rather newish, so “Scandinavia in general is big on employee protection” doesn’t really answer any of the questions I have raised. This new technology may not be covered by existing Swedish law.

*And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead

and that no man should be able to buy or to sell, save he that hath the mark, even the name of the beast or the number of his name
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Makes for good screenplay anyways?

No, but people are different. Data about their locations can be used for a number of purposes that’s aren’t legitimate. I think this is asking for trouble.

This is literally just gluing your employee smart card badge to the employee. It can’t track you unless the employer puts up scanners everywhere.

I don’t know about you, but I’ve never worked at an office where I had to scan my badge to use the bathroom, or they dinged you if you took too long at lunch. Maybe your office is different, but if your manager is tracking your bathroom breaks maybe you should switch to Burger King, I hear they are much better about that.

It’s still a ridiculous technology, because what exactly is this supposed to accomplish that your employee badge already does? OK, you can’t forget it or lose it. So what? If your employee forgets their badge, you just issue them a temp badge for that day. It’s not exactly an earth-shattering mistake.

The reason we implant the chips in pets is that pets are a bit worse about keeping track of their employee badge than humans are. There’s no reason to implant the chip when we can just ask people to keep the chip in a badge on a lanyard around their neck.

The dystopian uses for this are completely overblown. Your employer is going to make you scan your hand every time you use the bathroom? Every time you get yourself a second cup of coffee from the breakroom? Every time you go to the bar? This chip can’t do anything except return a number when pinged by the radio signal. That’s it. It can’t collect biometric information any more than your employee badge can, because it doesn’t have sensors to collect biometric information.

This is a silly technology that doesn’t solve any problems for authoritarian employers who want to control their employee’s lives. I guess it weeds out the wafflers from the committed. But actually sadistically micromanaging the chipped employees? The chip does nothing.

Again, the chip isn’t constantly returning GPS location data to the employer database. It can’t do that because these chips are passive RFID chips that only return a number when scanned.

If you have an employee badge that you scan to enter the building or use for two-factor authentication for various procedures, the location information from those scans isn’t stored in the chip in the badge, it’s stored by the reader. “Such and such chip reader detected such and such a chip at such and such a time”. Since the location of the chip reader is known, and the time is known, that means you can place the employee at that time and place. But when the chip is not being scanned, there is no way to track location data.

Note that your phone really can be used to track you, so if your employer really wanted to micromanage you they could make it a condition of employment to allow them access to your phone’s location services so they can see if you go to church on Sunday or not. The problem then is making sure that the phone is surgically attached to the serf so they can’t leave it at home when they go do their forbidden activities.

I have to scan my badge to return from a bathroom break, or go to the restaurant downstairs, etc. because I’m reentering our work space. I don’t need to scan to leave though, so no record.

This company is a “startup hub”. The purpose of this stunt is to look bleeding edge. It probably has zero to do with keeping better track of employees. If they found out some guy was having sex with whores on a pile of cheetos in the Black Cat bathroom, they probably wouldn’t care as long as he develops decent apps.

1.These scanners that are made so that a card has to be quite close to activate them-are they made that way because they are incapable of reading the cards unless they are extremely close, or are they made that way to prevent people walking by with cards from accidentally popping doors open all the time?
2. Would it be possible to implant scanners near doorknobs, in walls, in desks and other places without them being visible?

I meant “return from” the restaurant downstairs.

What if Hobby Lobby decides to implement them? :dubious: