# Would you be comfortable sharing a dressing room with a gay person?? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 27, 2013, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005 "2013-06-27T01:58:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/241 "2013-06-28T19:32:50Z")
> [@Tracijo67](#): > > Since this is NOT the pit, I’d like to know if hate speech like this is allowed. > > Subtract “gay” and insert “black”. Do the rules here prohibit racist/inflammatory hate rants (outside the Pit)? I’m asking – newer poster here, and don’t know. > > Also don’t know if it would be appropriate for me to call Esco out for being an angry, narrow-minded, possibly closeted, hate-filled bag of vomitus verbosus, but I’m taking the chance anyway. Already taken care of-see post #232. ---
**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/242 "2013-06-28T19:38:25Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > Women do not have rooms separated from other gay women, so you are, in fact, asking for a special right How do you know?? Have you talked to all women in North-America?? > [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > I have a great sense of humor! Doesnt sound like it. you needed to have the joke explained > [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > Look homophobe, as I said in the first reply- there have been gay men in every locker room, changing room, bathroom, whatever, since forever. You’ve already changed with gay people, and you’re just fine. This proves that your fear is stupid and unfounded, and we don’t restrict other people’s movements based on stupid unfounded fears. If you can’t be around other people, stay home. Trust me, no one will miss you Who’s the “hater” now?? You are. And yet here you complaining about homophobia > [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > I mean, I don’t like clowns, so you know what? I stay out of the fucking circus. I don’t go and then throw a little fit like a baby because some dude with a red nose looked at me. Grown-ups manage their shit. Grow up You dont get much sex, do you?! You sound very angry. I hope you find more happiness in your life ---
**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/243 "2013-06-28T19:40:26Z")
> [@Tracijo67](#): > > Since this is NOT the pit, I’d like to know if hate speech like this is allowed. > > Subtract “gay” and insert “black”. Do the rules here prohibit racist/inflammatory hate rants (outside the Pit)? I’m asking – newer poster here, and don’t know So here you complain aboot hate-speech > [@Tracijo67](#): > > Also don’t know if it would be appropriate for me to call Esco out for being an angry, narrow-minded, possibly closeted, hate-filled bag of vomitus verbosus, but I’m taking the chance anyway And here you do the exact same thing. Hypocrit much?? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/244 "2013-06-28T19:53:29Z")
Calling someone out for being a homophobe based on that person repeatedly admitting to same is not hypocrisy. \ Having to explain the meaning of the word to you and how to use it correctly leads me to think that you should spend more time reading and less time in the gym. In your case, that would be like killing two birds with one stone. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/245 "2013-06-28T19:56:59Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Calling someone out for being a homophobe based on that person repeatedly admitting to same is not hypocrisy. \ > > Having to explain the meaning of the word to you and how to use it correctly leads me to think that you should spend more time reading and less time in the gym. In your case, that would be like killing two birds with one stone. Or at least less time running around naked in the locker room. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/246 "2013-06-28T20:02:32Z")
> [@Esco](#): > > This is exactly the way I feel also. > > And I cant believe so many posters in this thread are butthurt over my stance on all this… Since I was quoted in a way that suggests you think I agree with you, I want to be clear: I’ve been naked in front of gay men and not cared, because if they were sexually interested in me, I couldn’t tell. I’ve been naked in front of straight women and not cared, because if they were sexually interested in me, I couldn’t tell. I’d like to think (though know it probably isn’t true) that I’ve been in the locker room at the Y and some gay guy was checking me out and thinking “I’d do that twice on Sundays.” Just so long as I didn’t know he was thinking that. Why would I care what thoughts people are having? The only reason I care if you’re seeing me naked is if it is going to cause you to behave inappropriately. I do not consider being gay a trigger for a douche. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/247 "2013-06-28T20:05:21Z")
**Esco** , repeatedly referring to all of us as “gay” is rather juvenile and in my case, totally inaccurate. I’m bisexual. ---
**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/248 "2013-06-28T20:14:09Z")
I dont understand why you guys are taking this all so personal. Its like your feelings have been forever hurt, and you’ll never get over it. I got news for you, you cant change people’s feelings no matter how much political correctness you throw at them. Some people like caramel, others dont. Some people like sauerkraut, others dont. I personally loathe sauerkraut, and nothing in the world is gonna change that. So why are you people trying to smear me, why cant you just accept the fact I’m not comfortable taking a shower with gays?? ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/249 "2013-06-28T20:16:05Z")
Bully for you. There’s an easy solution, don’t shower in public facilities. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/250 "2013-06-28T20:17:41Z")
> [@Esco](#): > > I’m not comfortable with some homo checking out my pecker in the shower. How many times do I have to allude to this?! You know this has probably already happened, right? Besides, what makes you think you’re so irresistable to “homos”? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/251 "2013-06-28T20:24:23Z")
> [@Esco](#): > > How do you know?? Have you talked to all women in North-America?? Yes. they had some choice stuff to say about you, too. Can’t say it here though. Can you show me anyplace where lesbians have a separate changing room? I mean, I know you can’t since I talked to every woman in North America, but you could try. > [@](#): > > Doesnt sound like it. you needed to have the joke explained Because it wasn’t funny. That actually says something about _your_ sense of humor, but I know you can’t understand that. I notice you quit leaving all the rows of blank space before your periods though, so thanks for that. > [@](#): > > Who’s the “hater” now?? You are. And yet here you complaining about homophobia Oh, I am a hater for sure. I hate prejudice, and willful ignorance, and bigotry. I hate many many things, but see, I have a reason for it. That’s what separates us. Your hatred is based on stupidity and unearned privilege. My hatred is a righteous fury, burning with justice and equality! I am motherfucking Daenerys Stormborn Targaryen, and you’re about to be a crispy fritter! > [@](#): > > You dont get much sex, do you?! I’m just leaving this for the sheer WTFness. (although coupled with the Game of Thrones joke above, it is kinda funny) > [@](#): > > You sound very angry. I hope you find more happiness in your life I am both angry and happy. But please, don’t worry about me. Take all that effort and put it into not acting like a piece of garbage. I don’t need the help- you do. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/252 "2013-06-28T20:27:24Z")
Besides, what about men who are still in the closet, or who are in denial? Why should they be forced to come out because of your insecurities? Being “uncomfortable” isn’t a justification to create separate locker rooms for homosexuals, especially since not all of us straight people feel the way you do. Suck it up. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/253 "2013-06-28T20:33:40Z")
> [@Esco](#): > > I dont understand why you guys are taking this all so personal. Its like your feelings have been forever hurt, and you’ll never get over it. I completely agree with you, **Esco**. This conversation would end almost immediately and you’d be forgotten the minute you stoped posting your homophobic, infantile ideas. ---
**Author:** ![limegreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/82dd89/32.png) [@limegreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/limegreen)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/254 "2013-06-28T20:34:36Z")
At my age, I really wouldn’t care about changing in front of nearly anyone. However, that’s after three childbirths, cancer, lots of surgeries, so probably most people in this town have seen pieces of me at one point or another. When I was a teenager, I was extremely body-conscious (I would have been afraid everyone was thinking I was fat/ugly, not that they thought I was hot), but now…eh. ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/255 "2013-06-28T20:37:25Z")
> [@Esco](#): > > I dont understand why you guys are taking this all so personal. Its like your feelings have been forever hurt, and you’ll never get over it. You are WAY overestimating your influence here. Most people are making fun of you. > [@](#): > > I got news for you, you cant change people’s feelings no matter how much political correctness you throw at them. Some people like caramel, others dont. Some people like sauerkraut, others dont. > > I personally loathe sauerkraut, and nothing in the world is gonna change that. No one cares what you like to eat. You just aren’t allowed to make people stop eating sauerkraut because you don’t like it. That’s the issue here; you’re saying I can’t put sauerkraut on my hot dog because it grosses you out. Sorry dude- if you can’t deal with other people eating sauerkraut\* you have to eat at home. > [@](#): > > So why are you people trying to smear me, why cant you just accept the fact I’m not comfortable taking a shower with gays?? No one gives a shit if you don’t like “gays” in the locker room (also, dude, gay is an adjective, not a noun). You can feel however you like to feel. That’s fine. You just don’t get to kick people out of a locker room because of your irrational feelings. \*which, if “eating sauerkraut” means “having gay sex” they aren’t even eating sauerkraut around you!! They are just people who _like_ eating sauerkraut existing in a space _near_ you. ---
**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/256 "2013-06-28T20:40:41Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > Because it wasn’t funny. That actually says something about _your_ sense of humor Its not meant to be funny haha, its meant to be funny in a cute kind of way. Thats why I often write “aboot”. But I’m not surprised you wouldnt know what “cute” looks like > [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > Oh, I am a hater for sure. I hate prejudice, and willful ignorance, and bigotry. I hate many many things, but see, I have a reason for it. That’s what separates us. Your hatred is based on stupidity and unearned privilege. My hatred is a righteous fury, burning with justice and equality! I am motherfucking Daenerys Stormborn Targaryen, and you’re about to be a crispy fritter! The KKK also hates much like you do. They also justify it by saying Blacks should be hated upon because they commit so much crime. Do you see what I did there?? You hate me too because in your opinion I’ve committed a “crime” by being bigoted in your eyes. I wouldnt be surprised if you dont get that comparison though. Try sleeping on it and get back to us tomorrow > [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > I am both angry and happy. But please, don’t worry about me. Take all that effort and put it into not acting like a piece of garbage. I don’t need the help- you do Try being more positive. You definitely come across as an angry woman > [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > I notice you quit leaving all the rows of blank space before your periods though, so thanks for that I leave space sometimes after an edit so my post doesnt get mixed up with the edit message ( Last edited by Esco; Today at 04:41 PM). I would think a reasonably intelligent person couldve figured that out. Look below, I’m doing it again . ---
**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/257 "2013-06-28T20:44:47Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > You are WAY overestimating your influence here. Most people are making fun of you Nope. You’re angry aboot something. Especially you, miss Elizabeth, you already admitted to being angry in your post. See here: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16424179&postcount=251](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16424179&postcount=251) > [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > No one cares what you like to eat. You just aren’t allowed to make people stop eating sauerkraut because you don’t like it. That’s the issue here; you’re saying I can’t put sauerkraut on my hot dog because it grosses you out. Sorry dude- if you can’t deal with other people eating sauerkraut\* you have to eat at home You also cant force sauerkraut down somebody throat, and expect them to like it or eat it > [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > You just don’t get to kick people out of a locker room because of your irrational feelings I never said I wanted to kick gays out. Heck, I’ll even move out myself into a gay-free shower stall 😉 . ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/258 "2013-06-28T20:47:32Z")
> [@Esco](#): > > Its not meant to be funny haha, its meant to be funny in a cute kind of way. Thats why I often write “aboot”. But I’m not surprised you wouldnt know what “cute” looks like. [Cute.](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_KvDFauTmm3g/TIOt72XZqFI/AAAAAAAAC7Y/cwm_89-ETM4/s1600/cute-kitten-501.jpg) Repeatedly saying “aboot”? Not so cute. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/259 "2013-06-28T20:49:45Z")
> [@Esco](#): > > I never said I wanted to kick gays out. Heck, I’ll even move out myself into a gay-free shower stall 😉 Are you willing to buy the establishment and pay to have it installed? ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/260 "2013-06-28T20:54:22Z")
I’m really starting to get the impression the OP as a crush on **miss elizabeth**. His posts have been steadily descending from reasonably stated albeit woefully ignorant to neener neener I know you are but what am I-style. I predict we will soon see a written equivalent to pulling her pigtail soon. Still, I notice a solution amongst the posting. Earlier \*\*Esco \*\*agreed with someone else’s post indicating that what he fears is being nude in front of someone who might find him attractive. I suggest he simply engage said person in conversation for a few minutes. I believe that would solve his problem as it would most certainly cause any attraction to quickly dissipate. Problem solved. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005.md?page=14)