# Would you be comfortable sharing a dressing room with a gay person??

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 27, 2013, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005 "2013-06-27T01:58:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/321 "2013-07-01T15:52:24Z")

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> [@Esco](#):
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> Thats not what you said. Stop changing the subject.

The subject of you wanting the law to support your bigotry, and your attempting to support your position by saying that other people are bigoted too?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/322 "2013-07-01T15:54:41Z")

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> [@Esco](#):
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> All I’m asking is this becomes law.

Can’t. Republicans’d filibuster it.

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**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/323 "2013-07-01T15:56:55Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> The subject of you wanting the law to support your bigotry, and your attempting to support your position by saying that other people are bigoted too?

So by that standard every woman who wants a separate shower stall from men is also a bigot then??

Simple question, yes or no?

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**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/324 "2013-07-01T15:57:59Z")

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> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#):
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> Something tells me you might be in a closet of sorts already…

Are you saying you’re bigoted towards people who might be in the closet??

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/325 "2013-07-01T15:58:52Z")

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> [@Esco](#):
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> So by that standard every woman who wants a separate shower stall from men is also a bigot then??
> 
> Simple question, yes or no?

Simple answer-no. The reason why it is different has already been explained to you more than once, so I have no reason to repeat it.

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**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/326 "2013-07-01T16:01:28Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Simple answer-no. The reason why it is different has already been explained to you more than once, so I have no reason to repeat it

Explanation unsatisfactory and unacceptable

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/327 "2013-07-01T16:02:38Z")

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Does it make you uncomfortable? You could ask for a separate thread.

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**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/328 "2013-07-01T16:06:43Z")

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> [@Esco](#):
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> Are you saying you’re bigoted towards people who might be in the closet??

No just towards you.

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**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/329 "2013-07-01T16:07:11Z")

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I think there should be two changing areas-one for ugly people, one for good looking people!😃

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/330 "2013-07-01T16:08:40Z")

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> [@Esco](#):
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> So by that standard every woman who wants a separate shower stall from men is also a bigot then??
> 
> Simple question, yes or no?

Bigot? No, as there are a couple of milleniums worth of history of men behaving badly to women.

I do believe they are mistaken, as the best way to get over body image problems and the simplistic, prudish equation of nudity with sex is to be exposed to a wide variety of naked people in non-sexual situations.

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**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/331 "2013-07-01T16:09:01Z")

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> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#):
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> No just towards you

At least you can admit. Kudos to you.

Now we just have to get everyone else in this thread to admit they are bigots too

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/332 "2013-07-01T16:09:09Z")

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> [@Esco](#):
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> Actually, you are wrong.

And yet you’ve singularly failed to demonstrate this in any manner.

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> As it is now most gyms have a few private stalls where people who are not comfortable being nude in front of others can shower in privacy. All I’m asking is this becomes law. Stop acting so butthurt and just accept not everyone wants to shower with gay people.

I’m not the one insisting that every gym in the country should change to stop me from feeling uncomfortable. And I repeat: you don’t have to shower with gay people.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/333 "2013-07-01T16:10:50Z")

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> [@Esco](#):
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> Explanation unsatisfactory and unacceptable

Vast history of men sexually harassing women vs. you feeling squicky for no logical reason you will admit to. What part don’t you understand?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/334 "2013-07-01T16:12:10Z")

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> [@Esco](#):
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> At least you can admit. Kudos to you.
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> Now we just have to get everyone else in this thread to admit they are bigots too

Do you even know what “bigot” means?

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**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/335 "2013-07-01T16:16:15Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Vast history of men sexually harassing women vs. you feeling squicky for no logical reason you will admit to. What part don’t you understand?

Are you saying gays have never, or are incapable of sexual harrasment??

> **[Google Search](https://www.google.ca/search?as_q=gays%2B%2Bsexual%2Bharrasment&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=&as_occt=any&safe=images&tbs=&as_filetype=&as_rights=)**

[http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-05-31/vadodara/31920070\_1\_gay-prince-lakshya-trust-transgender-community](http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-05-31/vadodara/31920070_1_gay-prince-lakshya-trust-transgender-community)

[http://www.queerty.com/guccis-gays-sexually-harassing-the-straight-employees-lets-hear-this-one-out-20100423/](http://www.queerty.com/guccis-gays-sexually-harassing-the-straight-employees-lets-hear-this-one-out-20100423/)

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/5FRLXIqOEtg/hqdefault.jpg "Former Employee of 'Ex-Gay' John Paulk Says He Was Sexually Harassed") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FRLXIqOEtg)

And even though it might be less then what women go through, you dont think that will change as homosexuality becomes increasingly more accepted by society??

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**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/336 "2013-07-01T16:17:52Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Do you even know what “bigot” means?

Yeah, it means you’re bigoted vs. me

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/337 "2013-07-01T16:19:24Z")

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> [@Esco](#):
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> Are you saying gays have never, or are incapable of sexual harrasment??
> 
> [Google Search](https://www.google.ca/search?as_q=gays++sexual+harrasment&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=&as_occt=any&safe=images&tbs=&as_filetype=&as_rights=)
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> [http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-05-31/vadodara/31920070\_1\_gay-prince-lakshya-trust-transgender-community](http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-05-31/vadodara/31920070_1_gay-prince-lakshya-trust-transgender-community)
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> [http://www.queerty.com/guccis-gays-sexually-harassing-the-straight-employees-lets-hear-this-one-out-20100423/](http://www.queerty.com/guccis-gays-sexually-harassing-the-straight-employees-lets-hear-this-one-out-20100423/)
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FRLXIqOEtg](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FRLXIqOEtg)
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> [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/straight-man-sexually-harassed-by-gay-taunts-1204485.html](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/straight-man-sexually-harassed-by-gay-taunts-1204485.html)
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> And even though it might be less then what women go through, you dont think that will change as homosexuality becomes increasingly more accepted by society??

And, as has been mentioned, sexual harassment or assault is a crime and should be reported to the authorities when it occurs. That is an action on the creep’s part, not your fears that it might happen.

We need to better teach young men not to be creeps, and aresting a few for being creeps is a start.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/338 "2013-07-01T16:19:34Z")

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> [@Esco](#):
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> Yeah, it means you’re bigoted vs. me

No.  
Try again.

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**Author:** ![ctnguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@ctnguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ctnguy)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/339 "2013-07-01T16:20:43Z")

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> [@Esco](#):
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> I never said segregate the gays.

I’ve already pointed this out once. You posted earlier:

> [@Esco](#):
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> Thats why I think in amateur and pro sports its time we start segregating dressing rooms based on sexual preferences. Men and women should have separate change rooms, and gay and straight athletes should as well

You _literally_ said that gay and straight athletes should have separate change rooms.

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**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/340 "2013-07-01T16:21:24Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> And, as has been mentioned, sexual harassment or assault is a crime and should be reported to the authorities when it occurs. That is an action on the creep’s part, not your fears that it might happen.
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> We need to better teach young men not to be creeps, and aresting a few for being creeps is a start.

You’re changing the subject again. Czarcasm’s argument was that gays never sexually harrass men.

He is wrong. It happens

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