# Would you be uncomfortable sharing meat space with troglodyte homophobes? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2013, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073 "2013-06-27T23:26:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/181 "2013-07-14T14:43:35Z")
> [@Antinor01](#): > > 1. Those videos you posted were nothing. Talk to me when they have broken bones like an ex of mine had for no other reason than he was walking out of a gay bar Heterosexual people get beat up all time also. For no other reason then someone just didnt like them. In fact when I was in high school the vast majority of kids being bullied were straight. They werent bullied because they were gay, they were being bullied because they made easy targets and people enjoyed picking on them > [@Antinor01](#): > > 1. I have no reason to be tolerant of people who think I should be able to be fired, kicked out of housing, jailed, killed or any of a long list of things simply for being gay Just FTR, nowhere have I stated that I’m okay with any of this either. And here in Toronto I have yet to hear of gays being fired, kicked out of housing, jailed or killed for being gay. At least I would argue its not happening _en masse_. I cant even think of isolated incidents quite frankly . ---
**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/182 "2013-07-14T14:47:14Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Her’s not going to get it; he’ll already have decided we’re all against him because we can’t handle the truth, or something, and he’ll take his banning as concrete evidence of his assumed premise You do now half my team feels the same as I do, dont you. None of us want to shower with gays. Of course we wont say so publicly because we might lose their jobs. So we just say it privately behind your backs And you’re not gonna change our minds. But keep living in your idealistic, utopian, rainbow world if it makes you feel better. . ---
**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/183 "2013-07-14T14:48:58Z")
> [@Esco](#): > > (Video at link): [US Marine Jeremiah Arbogast: male rape in military is 'about power' - BBC News](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23152463) Also, I noticed nobody has commented on this article yet. Wasnt there a poster in another thread who said male sexual harrassment isnt a problem in the world?! LOL . ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/184 "2013-07-14T14:53:45Z")
> [@Esco](#): > > You do now half my team feels the same as I do, don’t you. You’re actually on a sports team? What sport? ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/185 "2013-07-14T15:19:18Z")
> [@Esco](#): > > Also, I noticed nobody has commented on this article yet. > > Wasnt there a poster in another thread who said male sexual harrassment isnt a problem in the world?! > > LOL > > . I believe you are mistaken in the phrasing or intention of whatever it is you are almost remembering from the other thread. Male-on-male sexual harassment is statistically insignificant compare to make-on-female sexual harassment or simple male-on-male brutality (without a sexual element). And, as has been said, predators are criminals regardless of their orientation and should be treated as such. Ordinary persona are ordinary persons as well, regardless of orientation, and should be treated with respect. ---
**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/186 "2013-07-14T15:36:07Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > Male-on-male sexual harassment is statistically insignificant compare to make-on-female sexual harassment or simple male-on-male brutality (without a sexual element) It doesnt matter if the numbers are less then women, the fact is it does occur, and it occurs a lot more often then you are willing to concede. Did you even read the article?! [US Marine Jeremiah Arbogast: male rape in military is 'about power' - BBC News](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23152463) > [@](#): > > The Pentagon report says thousands of men are also victims Thousands of men, is thousands of men too many! And those are just the ones being reported. What about unreported ones??! If these were thousands of children being sexually harrassed, would you also say thats statistically insignificant?! . ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/187 "2013-07-14T15:59:10Z")
> [@Esco](#): > > You do now half my team feels the same as I do, dont you. None of us want to shower with gays. I sure some are _saying_ it, but don’t really believe it - just egged on by group macho posturing. > [@](#): > > Of course we wont say so publicly because we might lose their jobs. So we just say it privately behind your backs As an incidental note, I’m not even gay - I just know an attention-seeking idiot when I see one. Feel free to say whatever you want, privately. This board isn’t being enriched by your commentary. ---
**Author:** ![Tequila\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a6a055/32.png) [@Tequila\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Party)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/188 "2013-07-14T16:12:30Z")
> [@Esco](#): > > You do now half my team feels the same as I do, dont you. None of us want to shower with gays. > > Of course we wont say so publicly because we might lose their jobs. So we just say it privately behind your backs > > And you’re not gonna change our minds. But keep living in your idealistic, utopian, rainbow world if it makes you feel better. > > . I look forward to the inevitable pit thread when any of these other homophobic dip shits (meaning the idiot we’ve all already excoriated) actually does lose his “sports playing” _job_. 😉 Because, he’s just the comedy gold gift that keeps on giving. It won’t get much better than that, unless he joins ranks with the racist ass wipes crowing over the Trayvon Martin case. Birds of a feather and all that. ---
**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/189 "2013-07-14T16:17:35Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > You’re actually on a sports team? What sport? I was wondering the same thing. What sports team would choose a whiny, trembling socially stunted kid who is petrified of men? Marshmallow toss? Competitive knitting? Tag-team biscuit making? ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/190 "2013-07-14T21:24:27Z")
> [@Troppus](#): > > I was wondering the same thing. What sports team would choose a whiny, trembling socially stunted kid who is petrified of men? Marshmallow toss? Competitive knitting? Tag-team biscuit making? Competitive tea brewing, sometimes called ‘tea-bagging.’ ---
**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/191 "2013-07-16T14:16:16Z")
> [@Tequila\_Party](#): > > I look forward to the inevitable pit thread when any of these other homophobic dip shits (meaning the idiot we’ve all already excoriated) actually does lose his “sports playing” _job_. 😉 You’d have to fire about 50% of the NFL also: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16478679#post16478679](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16478679#post16478679) Who’s the dipshit now?! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/192 "2013-07-16T14:19:57Z")
> [@Esco](#): > > Who’s the dipshit now?! 😉 Are you implying that YOUR status has been upgraded? ---
**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/193 "2013-07-16T14:21:44Z")
> [@Esco](#): > > Who’s the dipshit now?! 😉 Umm… you are. The very same dipshit who is pee-pants terrified of unarmed men in the lockeroom. No chance I’d hire such a weak-minded, fearful dipshit to play a competitive, strenuous, full-contact sport. I’d advise such a weenie to skip sports altogether and consider sticking to online RPG’s. ---
**Author:** ![Tequila\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a6a055/32.png) [@Tequila\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Party)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/194 "2013-07-16T15:28:11Z")
> [@Would you be comfortable sharing a dressing room with a gay person??](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/412): > > OMG, thats hysterical. When do you graduate from high school?? > > Just FTR, its about split 50/50, some players are comfortable showering with gays, and the other 50% is not (at least on my team). > > Here’s some quotes from NFL: > > Uncomfortable: [http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/nfls-mvp-adrian-peterson-would-be-uncomfortable-showering-gay-player040613](http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/nfls-mvp-adrian-peterson-would-be-uncomfortable-showering-gay-player040613) > > Uncomfortable: [http://www.outsports.com/2013/3/28/4155956/gay-nfl-player-would-make-some-very-uncomfortable](http://www.outsports.com/2013/3/28/4155956/gay-nfl-player-would-make-some-very-uncomfortable) > > Excellent CNN article: [http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/02/opinion/cain-kluwe-gay-player-nfl](http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/02/opinion/cain-kluwe-gay-player-nfl) > > Comfortable with gays: [http://sdgln.com/health/2013/06/03/andrew-luck-openly-gay-teammate-ok-indianapolis-colts-nfl](http://sdgln.com/health/2013/06/03/andrew-luck-openly-gay-teammate-ok-indianapolis-colts-nfl) > > Uncomfortable: [NBA Basketball - News, Scores, Stats, Standings, and Rumors - National Basketball Association - CBSSports.com](http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/22171242/larry-johnson-says-he-would-be-uncomfortable-with-a-gay-teammate) > > So you see, I’m not the only one. And since we live in a democracy, and therefore 50% of any given sports teams has rights too, we should be given separate showering stalls and dressing rooms. > > Its as simple as that. > > And who cares if a bunch of pinko lefties are offended or not. > You guys get offended at pretty much everything that doesnt suit your ultra left-wing political views You. You are still the dip shit dumb ass. Because, let’s see: From those articles, it specifically stated two athletes who were willing to say they were uncomfortable and _speculated_ there were more. No hard facts beyond those two. So, going with the pulling things out of my ass option, I speculate that you’re wildly wrong. Why? Because anyone with even half a brain (which you obviously lack) who can grasp the fact that they’ve undoubtedly been sharing locker room space with gay people since, well, there’s been locker rooms, understand that if they’ve done it in the past without incident, the future will probably be no different. Not to mention the repercussions if some poor, hapless gay fellow made the mistake of hitting on anybody. Ha. You’re more of an idiot than I first thought and it amuses me greatly that you keep replying to me and trying to convince me that there are literally hoards of other homophobes on your side. ---
**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/195 "2013-07-16T15:37:40Z")
**Esco** , your obsession is showing. Maybe, just maybe if you keep talking about this with your teammates, maybe if you keep rolling your eyes and talking in derogatory terms about gay guys, and just maybe if you display a tiny bit more self-loathing some generous fellow will take you under his wing and show you that you have nothing to fear, nothing to be disgusted by, and prove to you that all men are created equal and there is nothing wrong with a little man on man lovin’. And for all those quietly understanding and generous gay men who have facilitated the coming out of self-loathing, insecure, and scared gays: I salute you. The charitable service you’re doing is far more than I would ever be capable of when faced with such negativity. I’d just tell closeted **Esco** ’s to go…play by themselves. ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/196 "2013-07-16T15:43:46Z")
**Troppus:** Sound advice. It’s pretty obvious that what really distresses our little gayling is the prospect of having consensual partners so close at hand and being so sorely tempted by his own demonic urges. ---
**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/197 "2013-07-16T16:44:06Z")
I have no idea why you guys are taking this so personal. If a woman came up to me and said she’d prefer to shower separate from the guys, I’d be more than willing to respect her wishes. You guys arent gonna win this one. Gay athletes are too chicken to come out, only one NBA has last year, and he was a washed up player anyways, so it didnt matter. I have no problem with gays on my team. I have a HUGE problem showering with them. We will win this. you’ll see ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/198 "2013-07-16T16:46:21Z")
Gay Mafia got another one, I see. ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/199 "2013-07-16T17:27:52Z")
> [@Esco](#): > > We will win this. you’ll see And you know we’re all prayin’ fer ya here at the old SDMB homestead. Fer shur. [completely non-gay winking smilie] ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/200 "2013-07-16T17:30:32Z")
> [@Esco](#): > > I have no problem with gays on my team. I have a HUGE problem showering with them. Have you told them this directly? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073.md?page=11)