# Would you be uncomfortable sharing meat space with troglodyte homophobes?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 27, 2013, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073 "2013-06-27T23:26:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/61 "2013-07-01T01:39:49Z")

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Where? Well, I have to imagine it would be on your asscheeks. Would a diagram help?

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**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/62 "2013-07-01T02:33:05Z")

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For one, “trolley” is not used here as a term related to public transport. But I get your drift. At least you and I are in complete agreement: it’s the fairies who annoy “other” people and “creeps” them out.

So inadvertently you have your use; steering us back on topic.

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/63 "2013-07-01T02:40:17Z")

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> [@the\_diego](#):
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> I assure you, jeepney owners are real men who festoon their chariots with ribbons and curliques on purpose. They commission sign painters to paint various motifs on the side of their vehicles, generally mainstream themes such as celebration of female beauty and masculine virtues (strength, valor, all that tacky stuff.)

Wow, it sounds even gayer when you explain it.

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**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/64 "2013-07-01T02:42:24Z")

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Sure, and “The Sound of Music” is a gay fantasy, right?

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/65 "2013-07-01T03:11:14Z")

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> [@deltasigma](#):
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> But in a mens room, you might feel trapped - as if you have no choice but to submit to whatever perversions are demanded of you. :eek:

I read an editorial about that once.

Oh, found it!

[Why Do All These Homosexuals Keep Sucking My Cock?](http://www.theonion.com/articles/why-do-all-these-homosexuals-keep-sucking-my-cock,10861/?ref=auto)

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**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/66 "2013-07-01T03:34:14Z")

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> [@the\_diego](#):
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> For one, “trolley” is not used here as a term related to public transport. But I get your drift. At least you and I are in complete agreement: it’s the fairies who annoy “other” people and “creeps” them out.

Ah, don’t “be” so “hard” on yourself, man.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/67 "2013-07-01T03:34:28Z")

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> [@deltasigma](#):
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> But in a mens room, you might feel trapped - as if you have no choice but to submit to whatever perversions are demanded of you. :eek:

Or, if you didn’t quite get the previous post, that would be sexual assault or rape, and should be reported to the police.

Really, there’s no mystery here. It’s not a new idea that (many) men are pigs; there’s nothing about being gay that breaks that rule. People like that, of whatever persuasion, should be dealt with quickly and with the full effect of the law.

In the original thread (which I won’t link to again) the OP was weirded out because there might be some gay guy in his locker room who might be looking at his body. That’s a far cry from being sexually assaulted in the men’s room. There are already laws against assaulting people in the men’s room. We don’t need further special dispensation for the delicate sensibilities of someone who doesn’t want to be looked at.

Shall I predict that one of you will be back to say that you don’t see much difference?  
Roddy

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**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/68 "2013-07-01T03:37:50Z")

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Both scenarios creep us out?

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**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/69 "2013-07-01T04:00:29Z")

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> [@the\_diego](#):
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> Both scenarios creep us out?

Try painting colorful, valorous curlicues all over yourself to steel your masculine nerve. I heard it works for trolley masters!

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**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/70 "2013-07-01T05:40:46Z")

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You’re not even interesting enough for a men’s room tryst. Try someone else.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/71 "2013-07-01T10:12:06Z")

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> [@colander](#):
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> Try painting colorful, valorous curlicues all over yourself to steel your masculine nerve. I heard it works for trolley masters!

Do Aloha shirts count? Because the only people I ever see wearing them are middle-aged straight men.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/72 "2013-07-01T11:03:35Z")

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> [@colander](#):
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> This is a cross-cultural misunderstanding. Here, let me explain:
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> **DrFidelius** , many Westerners do not realize this, but in 1973, Metro Manila was forced through budget cuts to relinquish control over the ownership and operations of their entire fleet of commuter buses. After a tense private auction, over 80% of their bus lines were turned over to Espuma del Ano, an Ibiza-based contractor specializing in homosexual foam party tours. The buses were repainted, sequined and fitted with state-of-the-art audio systems, and by 1975, public commuters in the largest city in the Philippines had no access to affordable transportation besides this sordid assemblage of mobile gay discos. Well, and light rail, I guess. Anyway, I hear it’s been rough.
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> They have a great happy hour cocktail special, though. Try the lime rickeys!

In the dates given, being homosexual was a crime in Ibiza. -10 for not knowing when did _el Generalísimo_ die.

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/73 "2013-07-01T13:11:01Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> Do Aloha shirts count? Because the only people I ever see wearing them are middle-aged straight men.

“There’s only two kinds of guys who wear Hawaiian shirts: gay guys and big fat party animals. And Bart doesn’t look like a big fat party animal to me!” – Homer Simpson

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/74 "2013-07-01T13:23:49Z")

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> [@Lamia](#):
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> “There’s only two kinds of guys who wear Hawaiian shirts: gay guys and big fat party animals. And Bart doesn’t look like a big fat party animal to me!” – Homer Simpson

Must be a California vs New England thing. Or an Animated vs Real-Life thing. Or something like that.

But I will hold to my personal experience and observation despite there being a joke from a cartoon which can be quoted.

Neener neener.

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**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/75 "2013-07-01T14:45:40Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> **Chilliwack** :
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> So you now go to a different gym, but only (apparently) because you work in a different office and the new gym is more convenient. Nevertheless, you have voted with your dollars and decided not to patronize the previous establishment (how long did that take? I would not have come back after the first incident if things indeed happened as you described - color me dubious).
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> You did not, however, take **Esco** ’s tack and expect that gym to provide homo-free\* facilities for you. For that I congratulate you.
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> As far as I’m concerned, **Esco** is entitled to his feelings; they say a great deal about him. But I do get a little exercised based on his supposed solutions - segregation, or else a special accommodation for him and others of his ilk. To that I say, well, it’s a nice day, so I’ll just say fooey

How many times do I have to remind you sensitive people, we already do this now for women who are uncomfortable sharing showers or dressing rooms with men.

Heck, right at this very minute there are hundreds of new gyms, sport halls, office buildings…etc being built with separate change rooms for men and women. Where’s your outrage for that??!

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**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/76 "2013-07-01T14:47:54Z")

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> [@miss\_elizabeth](#):
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> Yes I would not want to sit next to him on the subway. I don’t even think I’d hang out long enough to figure out his political positions.
> 
> Seriously, though, OP, that guy is a dooooouche. He pissed me off too

I knew you were mad.

You tried to play it off like you were laughing at me, but deep down you’re angry as heck. and thats just because someone has a different opinion then you.

Hey look below, the edit dot again 😃

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/77 "2013-07-01T15:07:38Z")

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Well, based on that, I’m voting ‘troll’ and any future comments from me in the original thread will be of a mocking tone, since serious debate is clearly useless.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/78 "2013-07-01T15:09:45Z")

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I can’t believe you gave it this long, frankly.

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**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/79 "2013-07-01T15:11:57Z")

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> [@Esco](#):
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> Heck, right at this very minute there are hundreds of new gyms, sport halls, office buildings…etc being built with separate change rooms for men and women. **Where’s your outrage for that**??!

Can you guys answer this question, please?

I see you’re all conveniently avoiding it

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/80 "2013-07-01T15:15:05Z")

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I left it in my other pants.

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