# Would you be uncomfortable sharing meat space with troglodyte homophobes? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2013, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073 "2013-06-27T23:26:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/141 "2013-07-07T23:58:39Z")
> [@Esco](#): > > Why am I not surprised you’re very familiar with all the names of gay clubs 😃 Your attempt at humour is unsurprisingly lame. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/142 "2013-07-08T08:52:02Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Your attempt at humour is unsurprisingly lame. Dude’s so deep in the closet that it’s too dark for the grues. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/143 "2013-07-08T15:49:20Z")
> [@Esco](#): > > Reading comprehension problems?! > > I asked for the exact time in the video where you claim the insult took place. > > I’ll be waiting Huh. That link should have gone directly to 3 minutes, 21 seconds into the video. Not sure why that isn’t working. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/144 "2013-07-08T15:50:48Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Huh. That link should have gone directly to 3 minutes, 21 seconds into the video. Not sure why that isn’t working. It worked when I clicked it. Took me right to 3:21. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/145 "2013-07-08T16:33:30Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > It worked when I clicked it. Took me right to 3:21. Mine started at the beginning of the video. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/146 "2013-07-08T16:54:31Z")
Interesting. When I click on the link from my desktop PC, it goes to the correct time stamp. If I select it on my iPad, it goes to the beginning of the video. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/147 "2013-07-08T17:16:24Z")
Nice how y’all have let **Esco** switch the argument from whether he’s a homophobic asshole to “Hey, other people are assholes too!”. Just like in the original thread, he has switched his demands from segregated locker rooms to “I won’t play ball for any team that doesn’t have private shower stalls”. And I think that was the original issue all along. I’ll bet it was triggered by that pro athlete coming out a couple of weeks ago. I think what **Esco** wants is for **all** team athletes to stay in the closet and shut up about how they are gay, so that he won’t have to worry about sharing a locker room with them. Or maybe he just thinks that gays should stay out of team sports altogether. Hey, **Esco** , I got another clue for you - don’t enlist in the armed forces. You wouldn’t like it there. Roddy ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/148 "2013-07-08T17:58:10Z")
[Monty Python’s drill team](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbetTNetB-k) is how _I_ always think of the military. ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/149 "2013-07-08T18:16:46Z")
I just think it’s funny that he assumes pro sports won’t manage to get along without homophobes in the locker rooms. Uh, dude? There are WAY more people that want to play pro sports than there are spots to fill. If you throw a fit about the showers, they’ll just drop you off the team and get a new player, unless you’re the absolute best player in the sport. And he isn’t, or he wouldn’t be posting here, he’d be off spending his millions. Not to mention the fact that, as I said in the first reply of his dumbass thread, he’s already showered with gay people. It’s such an incredibly stupid thing to get worked up over. I bet **Esco** has spent more time thinking about showering with gay dudes than most gay people do. Just come out of the closet already, sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/150 "2013-07-08T18:17:54Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > And I think that was the original issue all along. I’ll bet it was triggered by that pro athlete coming out a couple of weeks ago. I think what **Esco** wants is for **all** team athletes to stay in the closet and shut up about how they are gay, so that he won’t have to worry about sharing a locker room with them. That’s actually almost exactly what he said in the [other thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16442215&postcount=378): > [@Would you be comfortable sharing a dressing room with a gay person??](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-comfortable-sharing-a-dressing-room-with-a-gay-person/662005/378): > > The problem I have (and some of my teammates also have) is that with this gay movement, they’re all starting to come out of the closet. It wont be long before every gay pro athlete comes out, and then what are we gonna do??! Shower with these guys??! I dont think so!! I’m not sure why he thinks he’d be showering with a professional athletic team, though. Maybe it’s just something he likes to fantasize about. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/151 "2013-07-08T19:19:41Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > I’m not sure why he thinks he’d be showering with a professional athletic team, though. Maybe it’s just something he likes to fantasize about. Funny thing for a straight guy to fantasize about, don’t you think? ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/152 "2013-07-08T19:22:14Z")
Of course he’s a self hating gay. No straight guy would spend this much time thinking about showering with other men. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/153 "2013-07-08T21:14:33Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Funny thing for a straight guy to fantasize about, don’t you think? Not if the team of wet, naked men in peak physical condition is entirely _straight_. That’s what he’s concerned about! If professional athletes can be _gay_ then suddenly this totally nonsexual daydream of his might start to seem just a tad homoerotic. ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/154 "2013-07-08T21:18:06Z")
> [@DMC](#): > > Dude’s so deep in the closet that it’s too dark for the grues. He’s so deep in the closet he keeps getting stalagmites wedged up his butt - purely by accident though I’m sure. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/155 "2013-07-09T12:47:34Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Huh. That link should have gone directly to 3 minutes, 21 seconds into the video. Not sure why that isn’t working I assume you’re talking about this: [http://oi41.tinypic.com/2l8jgcy.jpg](http://oi41.tinypic.com/2l8jgcy.jpg) He has every right to express his religious views (even if I personally dont agree with him). He’s standing on a public sidewalk, not private property. And before you counter with “a pride parade is the wrong place for that, and insulting to gays”, nowhere in the freedom of speech charter does it say you can’t exercise your freedom of speech at a gay pride parade. Try again Miller ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/156 "2013-07-09T12:53:11Z")
> [@Esco](#): > > I assume you’re talking about this: [http://oi41.tinypic.com/2l8jgcy.jpg](http://oi41.tinypic.com/2l8jgcy.jpg) > > He has every right to express his religious views (even if I personally dont agree with him). > He’s standing on a public sidewalk, not private property. > > And before you counter with “a pride parade is the wrong place for that, and insulting to gays”, nowhere in the freedom of speech charter does it say you can’t exercise your freedom of speech at a gay pride parade. > > Try again Miller So you didn’t consider that to be an insult? ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/157 "2013-07-09T13:04:57Z")
> [@Esco](#): > > I assume you’re talking about this: [http://oi41.tinypic.com/2l8jgcy.jpg](http://oi41.tinypic.com/2l8jgcy.jpg) > > He has every right to express his religious views (even if I personally dont agree with him). > He’s standing on a public sidewalk, not private property. > > And before you counter with “a pride parade is the wrong place for that, and insulting to gays”, nowhere in the freedom of speech charter does it say you can’t exercise your freedom of speech at a gay pride parade. > > Try again Miller Of course you have the right to insult others. That does not make it right or good. And the right to “free speech” does not grant immunity from repercussions if the speaker is being deliberately insulting. ---
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/158 "2013-07-09T13:23:40Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Would you be uncomfortable sharing meat space with troglodyte homophobes? Nope. I’m good with troglodyte homophobes. I’m also good with troglodyte homophiles. I know it’s an old fashioned and throughly unfashionable opinion but I don’t generally judge people on either their political or sexual views. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/159 "2013-07-09T18:07:55Z")
> [@Esco](#): > > I assume you’re talking about this: [http://oi41.tinypic.com/2l8jgcy.jpg](http://oi41.tinypic.com/2l8jgcy.jpg) > > He has every right to express his religious views (even if I personally dont agree with him). > He’s standing on a public sidewalk, not private property. > > And before you counter with “a pride parade is the wrong place for that, and insulting to gays”, nowhere in the freedom of speech charter does it say you can’t exercise your freedom of speech at a gay pride parade. > > Try again Miller Yes, he has every right to express those views. He absolutely should not be prevented for airing his odious and idiotic ideas. He should, in a word, be tolerated. Calling him a homophobic asshole is not being intolerant. The people marching in the parade were not being hypocrites by responding to an insult with more insults. Now, if your problem is with the police telling him to move along, first note that the police != the gay community. In addition, I pretty strongly suspect that the reason they showed up in the first place is that the Christian group hadn’t gotten a permit for their counter-demonstration. I’m not personally familiar with the intricacies of Canadian civil codes, so maybe their actions were, indeed, out of line, but even if they were in the wrong, the actions of the police department do not reflect on the legitimacy of the gay rights movement one way or the other. If that video was meant to represent intolerance any hypocrisy among gays or the left in general, you have, in what I suspect is a continuing motif in your life to this point, failed yet again. ---
**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2013, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073/160 "2013-07-10T15:14:13Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > So you didn’t consider that to be an insult? Not to me, but apparently to you it is. But so what if you’re offended, freedom of speech does not come with a cavaet that says freedom to express your opinion, just dont offend anyone > [@Miller](#): > > Yes, he has every right to express those views. He absolutely should not be prevented for airing his odious and idiotic ideas. He should, in a word, be tolerated Good, I’m glad you agree. Throwing drinks at the guy or screaming in his face is not being tolerant. And tolerance btw is the very thing Left-wingers preach, yet rarely practice themselves. Another shining example, only this time they managed to outdo the Toronto incident and raised it to violence: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSmCDtAFrCE](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSmCDtAFrCE) Hypocrisy at its finest [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-be-uncomfortable-sharing-meat-space-with-troglodyte-homophobes/662073.md?page=9)