# Would you care if Bush died? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 16, 2006, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-care-if-bush-died/372989 "2006-09-16T20:20:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-care-if-bush-died/372989/81 "2006-09-17T23:27:12Z")
And this sort of vitriol and hatred is why, if the hard left gets control of the Democratic party, they’ll never win again. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-care-if-bush-died/372989/82 "2006-09-18T01:04:21Z")
[QUOTE=athelas] And this sort of vitriol and hatred is why, if the hard left gets control of the Democratic party, they’ll never win again. [/QUOTE] Why ? It’s done wonders for the Right. Not to mention that I don’t see any hard left sentiments here; Bush is hated by most of the _world_, not just the hard left. ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-care-if-bush-died/372989/83 "2006-09-18T01:20:27Z")
When I see someone saying “I wish that so-and-so would die”, “I really hope that he gets impeached” (when that clearly isn’t going to happen, at least for this term), or “He’s gonna snap publicly any day now, I can tell”, I don’t expect thoughtful political analysis from them. If these sort of sentiments take over the Democratic party, what remains of their credibility will go down the tubes. And if you really think that the majority of Americans (the only people that can vote and therefore count) think the way that the SDMB does, you really need to get out of your bubble. ---
**Author:** ![Operation\_Ripper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/34f0e0/32.png) [@Operation\_Ripper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Operation_Ripper)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-care-if-bush-died/372989/84 "2006-09-18T01:32:45Z")
[QUOTE=alphaboi867] (Disclaimer; I am **NOT** advocating the assination of the President nor am I ploting it or aiding someone who is.) If George W. Bush suddenly died (of natural cause or assination) would you care? Would you feel sad? Does it make any difference if he was assinated? While I thing murder is wrong (like most people) and I have to desire to see him dead I wouldn’t mourn his passing. I would feel sad, but only because Cheney would be our new President. If he was killed in a terror attack that killed innocent bystanders that would be sad. [/QUOTE] You goddamn fool. Yes, I would care if a US President died, stupid asshole, whether it is Clinton or Bush or Lincoln or Roosevelt. Die in a fire. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-care-if-bush-died/372989/85 "2006-09-18T02:00:25Z")
[QUOTE=athelas] When I see someone saying “I wish that so-and-so would die”, “I really hope that he gets impeached” (when that clearly isn’t going to happen, at least for this term), or “He’s gonna snap publicly any day now, I can tell”, I don’t expect thoughtful political analysis from them. If these sort of sentiments take over the Democratic party, what remains of their credibility will go down the tubes. And if you really think that the majority of Americans (the only people that can vote and therefore count) think the way that the SDMB does, you really need to get out of your bubble. [/QUOTE] You’re right there, Athelas. The majority of Americans don’t think like Dopers do because Dopers, whether pro- or anti-Bush, actually think, whereas the majority of Americans simply don’t and are happy to swill in their ignorance. As to the OP, unfortunately, no, I wouldn’t want Bush to die of natural or unnatural causes. The martyrdom of that maniac, which would inevitably result IMO, would possibly enbolden the neocons to attempt to discard the last vestiges of their pretenses to democracy. . . plus the _real_ president would probably be none too happy to lose his ability to preside behind the scenes. I, however, DO hope that fool Bush gets impeached, and no, I don’t believe it’s at all clear it won’t happen. Perhaps you have a crystal ball. As far as Bush snapping? Oh man, that would be so sweet I’d probably have to call in sick that day from the dehydration that would result from my uncontrollable dancing, laughing, and hyperventilation, but no, sadly, I don’t think he’ll snap ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-care-if-bush-died/372989/86 "2006-09-18T02:19:26Z")
[QUOTE=Operation Ripper] You goddamn fool. Yes, I would care if a US President died, stupid asshole, whether it is Clinton or Bush or Lincoln or Roosevelt. Die in a fire. [/QUOTE] Don’t wish death on other posters, **Operation Ripper**. General note to all: the rule against wishing death only applies to other posters. While we always appreciate people reporting anything they think might need a look by the mods, you don’t need to report wishes of death against celebrities, politicians or anyone else not a known member of this message board. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-care-if-bush-died/372989/87 "2006-09-18T02:24:29Z")
Yeah. I gotta say I’m with **Operation Ripper** on this one, and I usually disagree with anything he has to say. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-care-if-bush-died/372989/88 "2006-09-18T03:43:14Z")
[QUOTE=alphaboi867] (Disclaimer; I am **NOT** advocating the assination of the President nor am I ploting it or aiding someone who is.) If George W. Bush suddenly died (of natural cause or assination) would you care? Would you feel sad? Does it make any difference if he was assinated? [/QUOTE] His death would be a sad thing. However, if he were assassinated, that would be a total disaster. In either case, I would be very sad. He’s been a good President. There are things he could and should have done better, but all in all, he’s done a good job. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-care-if-bush-died/372989/89 "2006-09-18T04:26:43Z")
[QUOTE=Clothahump] There are things he could and should have done better, but all in all, he’s done a good job. [/QUOTE] I’m not aware of a single thing he’s done that isn’t a disaster. ---
**Author:** ![Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoundrel_Swanswater)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-care-if-bush-died/372989/90 "2006-09-18T09:46:32Z")
[QUOTE=Weirddave] Did it ever occur to you that if the mess in Iraq does eventually stabilize (IMO, if the US finds the resolve to stay the course they started for the next 10 or 15 years instead of running away), and that that in turn helps stabilize the ME (as it would), that 40 or 50 years from now Bush will be seen as a very good president, maybe even a great one? I don’t particularly care about Bush one way or another, and personally I’d grade how he’s handled the war at somewhere between “poor” and “fair”, but the thought of how the appeasement assholes, partisan cowards and lunatic lefties would react to that course of events fills me with joy and keeps me warm at night. [/QUOTE] Hahahaha, that is a joke, right? If you are serious, well, just keep on dreaming, bud. ---
**Author:** ![Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoundrel_Swanswater)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-care-if-bush-died/372989/91 "2006-09-18T09:50:45Z")
[QUOTE=Little Nemo] It could happen. People hated Truman by the time he left office and fifty years later he’s remembered as a great president. So who knows? If Iraq gets straightened out, terrorism gets knocked down, tax cuts fix the economy, and New Orleans gets rebuilt, I’ll admit I misjudged George Bush and he was a great president after all. [/QUOTE] And if it starts raining money and all children sing happy songs with the birds tweeting in the trees. Fountains will spew lemonade and chocolate milk. ---
**Author:** ![Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoundrel_Swanswater)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-care-if-bush-died/372989/92 "2006-09-18T09:58:45Z")
[QUOTE=Weirddave] I agree with very few of the things Bush has done in his presidency. However, presidents tend to be remembered for their foreign policy initiatives, and, like I said, **IF** things fall right, that will be Bush’s legacy, as much as you might hate it. [/QUOTE] Well, Bush’ foreign policy is virtually non-existant. Remember the Kyoto conference? Remember : if you are not with us, you are against us? Remember : the Geneva convention is too vague so we don’t need to adhere to it? Remember : if US soldiers get taken to task for war-crimes, we want to reserve the right to free them by any means necessary? Bush’ foreign policy will be remembered for his isolationist view of “We are the US, we do what we like, fuck the rest of the world”. (At least that is how he will be remembered by the rest of the world. ---
**Author:** ![Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoundrel_Swanswater)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-care-if-bush-died/372989/93 "2006-09-18T10:07:51Z")
[QUOTE=Clothahump] His death would be a sad thing. However, if he were assassinated, that would be a total disaster. In either case, I would be very sad. He’s been a good President. There are things he could and should have done better, but all in all, he’s done a good job. [/QUOTE] :eek: You have got to be fucking kidding, right? Name one thing he did that can even be remotely considered “a good job”. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-care-if-bush-died/372989/94 "2006-09-18T11:41:30Z")
[QUOTE=Cervaise] And did it ever occur to _you_ that if Bush were to sprout giant leathery wings in public, in 40 or 50 years he will be remembered as a freakish man-bat? [/QUOTE] And be featured on News of the World covers for the rest of eternity. I’m still out on whether or not this would be a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-care-if-bush-died/372989/95 "2006-09-18T11:46:44Z")
[QUOTE=Little Nemo] There isn’t really. The Constitution is a law and violating it is just as illegal as breaking an article of a state penal code or a town ordinance. [/QUOTE] No. There is no inherent penalty to violating any of the Constitution’s requirements; such penalties must be established by statute. Illegal = in violation of a criminal statute. That’s why we have a separate word for “in violation of the requirements of the Constitution.” ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-care-if-bush-died/372989/96 "2006-09-18T11:48:00Z")
[QUOTE=Scoundrel Swanswater] :eek: You have got to be fucking kidding, right? Name one thing he did that can even be remotely considered “a good job”. [/QUOTE] Jenna’s cute. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-care-if-bush-died/372989/97 "2006-09-18T12:13:46Z")
[QUOTE=Scoundrel Swanswater] :eek: You have got to be fucking kidding, right? Name one thing he did that can even be remotely considered “a good job”. [/QUOTE] He’s managed not to barf on any foreign leaders yet. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-care-if-bush-died/372989/98 "2006-09-18T12:28:28Z")
To answer the OP: I will crack a big smile. I might even do the happy dance. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-care-if-bush-died/372989/99 "2006-09-18T13:15:24Z")
[QUOTE=Skald the Rhymer] Jenna’s cute. [/QUOTE] I think her sister Barbara is cute. Jenna, not so much, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-care-if-bush-died/372989/100 "2006-09-18T14:38:59Z")
[QUOTE=Scoundrel Swanswater] Name one thing he did that can even be remotely considered “a good job”. [/QUOTE] He’s managed to clear a whole lot of brush without whacking off his or anyone else’s limbs with a chainsaw. Also, he’s been incredibly effective at pulling the wool over many, many people’s eyes, as evidenced by various individuals in this very thread. That may be dishonorable, but it can’t be argued that he isn’t very good at it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-care-if-bush-died/372989.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-care-if-bush-died/372989.md?page=6)