# Would you change your 2016 vote if you could?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 6, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-change-your-2016-vote-if-you-could/815570 "2018-06-06T21:05:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-change-your-2016-vote-if-you-could/815570/21 "2018-06-07T15:29:24Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I’m puzzled by the choice: _I voted for Clinton; I would change my vote._
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> Three people selected that. Which means what? They regret voting for the losing candidate they liked at the time but no longer do and wish they’d voted for the winning candidate?

I’m just speculating. Some people might have voted for Clinton instead of a third party candidate they preferred because they wanted to help defeat Trump. With Trump having won anyway, they might wish they could go back and vote for their preferred choice.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-change-your-2016-vote-if-you-could/815570/22 "2018-06-07T15:39:23Z")

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If the purpose of this poll is to try and find out if there are voters for the President who regret that choice, it’s likely to fail its purpose. First of all, this Board is pretty skewed (at least among those who participate in the GD/E forums), and second of all, even among a large number of conservative posters, the likely percentage wanting to switch is small, so there would be little likelihood of large numbers of people saying “Voted Trump, Want to Change.”

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-change-your-2016-vote-if-you-could/815570/23 "2018-06-07T15:42:07Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I’m puzzled by the choice: _I voted for Clinton; I would change my vote._
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> Three people selected that. Which means what? They regret voting for the losing candidate they liked at the time but no longer do and wish they’d voted for the winning candidate?

Could just be people taking the piss.

But if real I suspect it refers to Republicans that reluctantly voted for Clinton, but now have decided in retrospect Trump would have been neutral-enough policy-wise to be tolerable in the first place. Remember some never-Trumpers were concerned that Trump would be a stealth Democrat or otherwise unreliable as a conservative voice and therefore that combined with his repulsive personal conduct made Hilary just barely the lesser evil. His repulsiveness hasn’t changed much, but presumably some have been mollified by his political conduct.

I mean I don’t really see it, objectively. Other than appointing Gorsuch, I suppose. My opinion that he really doesn’t have much of a coherent core ideology stands. For example his protectionism in particular is populist and I suppose might fit under a paleo-conservative label, but the traditional pro-business establishment conservatives seem to be horrified by it. But some people seem to have decided in retrospect he’s okayish as conservatives go, if not ideal.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-change-your-2016-vote-if-you-could/815570/24 "2018-06-07T15:59:48Z")

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Yeah, taking the piss makes sense. Voting,\* ‘Wish I hadn’t voted for Clinton’\*, seems like a _fuck you_ if the inferred assumption is that the pole is primarily looking for Trump voters with buyer’s remorse.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-change-your-2016-vote-if-you-could/815570/25 "2018-06-07T16:08:12Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> if the inferred assumption is that the pole is primarily looking for Trump voters with buyer’s remorse.

That wouldn’t be my assumption - the OP looked pretty open to me. I’d take it at face value just based on that( the poll that is - those three votes could still just be people amusing themselves ).

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-change-your-2016-vote-if-you-could/815570/26 "2018-06-07T17:20:53Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> The only change I’d even consider would be crossing over to vote for Kasich in the primary, but Ohio was probably too late for that to matter

Ohio was winner take all and Kasich won. It definitely wouldn’t have mattered.

The primary actually happened later than the state law directed at the point where Trump and Kasich had declared their candidacies. The legislature amended the law to move the primary a week later. It just so happened that was the first week where GOP rules allowed winner take all. It also just so happened that the Ohio GOP then chose winner take all delegate allocation. Imagine that. 😉 By voting later you helped Kasich, even if unknowingly.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-change-your-2016-vote-if-you-could/815570/27 "2018-06-07T17:50:06Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Voted for Hillary Clinton and it was one of my happiest moments. Wouldn’t change a thing about my vote.

Same, except it wasn’t one of my happiest moments. I’d been following 538 quite closely, and on account of that, I had a sense of dread about the whole thing. (I didn’t think PA/MI/WI were going to go for Trump, but thought the whole thing might come down to NH and NV, and wasn’t sanguine.)

Plus my sick 16 year old cat chose that morning to lose all ability to use her rear legs, and we had to take her to the vet to have her put to sleep. I remember desperately hoping that that would be the worst thing that happened that day. Instead, the day started off terribly, and then got far worse.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-change-your-2016-vote-if-you-could/815570/28 "2018-06-07T22:26:48Z")

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I am saddened by the third party voters and those who did not vote. Considering the stakes of the 2016 election, I believe it was a serious failure of civic responsibility.

ETA: I voted Clinton and was happy to do so.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-change-your-2016-vote-if-you-could/815570/29 "2018-06-08T17:02:14Z")

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I voted for Sanders in the primary and Clinton in the general and would not change either one. I might as well have written in my own name since, you know, Tennessee.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-change-your-2016-vote-if-you-could/815570/30 "2018-06-08T18:20:08Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Should have made this a public poll.

Why? You can tell me who you voted for in the comments if you like. I didn’t feel the need to force people to do so in order to participate.

> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> If the purpose of this poll is to try and find out if there are voters for the President who regret that choice, it’s likely to fail its purpose. First of all, this Board is pretty skewed (at least among those who participate in the GD/E forums), and second of all, even among a large number of conservative posters, the likely percentage wanting to switch is small, so there would be little likelihood of large numbers of people saying “Voted Trump, Want to Change.”

I admit I would be interested in hearing from any regretful Trump voters, but I’m also well aware of the leanings of this board’s regulars. I mainly just figured the topic might make for some interesting conversation.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-change-your-2016-vote-if-you-could/815570/31 "2018-06-08T18:39:58Z")

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I held my nose and voted for Trump. Not that I had high hopes for him, but I detest Hillary. Now, as it turns out, I find Trump to be a fabulous President, and I would vote for him again, only next time it will be enthusiastically. (And, since I live in Chicago, it will be equally futile.)

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-change-your-2016-vote-if-you-could/815570/32 "2018-06-10T15:21:27Z")

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I’d gladly vote for Clinton again. Of course Texas was going for Trump–just not most of our cities. [There's no shading it, Harris County went undeniably blue | The Texas Tribune](https://www.texastribune.org/2016/11/11/harris-county-turned-blue/)

Idiots blame Ms Clinton’s popular victory on the California & New York voters. Nope, plenty of us in Red states preferred her, too.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-change-your-2016-vote-if-you-could/815570/33 "2018-06-10T16:49:45Z")

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> [@Bridget\_Burke](#):
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> I’d gladly vote for Clinton again. Of course Texas was going for Trump–just not most of our cities. [There's no shading it, Harris County went undeniably blue | The Texas Tribune](https://www.texastribune.org/2016/11/11/harris-county-turned-blue/)
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> Idiots blame Ms Clinton’s popular victory on the California & New York voters. Nope, plenty of us in Red states preferred her, too.

Not to hijack, but the rapid growth of cities in the western states is becoming a real problem, one of several demographically, for Republicans. Think Colorado, Nevada and Arizona where the dominant city in each state is or is fast approaching the majority of the state’s population. And populations overall in those three states continue to skyrocket.

I would’ve included Utah as well except that they’re, uh, unique.

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**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-change-your-2016-vote-if-you-could/815570/34 "2018-06-10T17:05:11Z")

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I voted for Clinton in the general election and would happily do so again.

In the primary – well, hear me out.

I live in Illinois. I was confident Clinton would win the Democratic primary. I was worried about the number of states that Trump had won, and thought that there might be some dynamics in play if by some chance he lost Illinois. Illinois is an open primary state, so I looked at the roster of Republican candidates, picked the one I thought had the best chance of beating Trump, held my nose and voted for Cruz.

A side benefit was that since I live in DuPage County, which is pretty red, I got to vote my opinion in some races for which the Democrats weren’t running anyone. I’m glad to say that there’s at least one benefit to the 2016 fiasco – most local races include Democratic candidates in 2018.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-change-your-2016-vote-if-you-could/815570/35 "2018-06-10T17:20:19Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> I held my nose and voted for Trump. Not that I had high hopes for him, but I detest Hillary. Now, as it turns out, I find Trump to be a fabulous President, and I would vote for him again, only next time it will be enthusiastically. (And, since I live in Chicago, it will be equally futile.)

He’s not a fabulous president, he’s a very bad one who’s doing things you like. Sort of like how Joe Arpaio having the support of virulent racists didn’t make him a fabulous sheriff.

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-change-your-2016-vote-if-you-could/815570/36 "2018-06-10T18:37:10Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Should have made this a public poll.

I disagree. How many people would admit voting for Trump if it were public?

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-change-your-2016-vote-if-you-could/815570/37 "2018-06-10T18:43:20Z")

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If you voted third party or not at all, that was a vote for Chump.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-change-your-2016-vote-if-you-could/815570/38 "2018-06-10T18:48:49Z")

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> [@Red\_Wiggler](#):
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> I would’ve included Utah as well except that they’re, uh, unique.

Utah has 4 Reps, all republiopaths. They could, realistically, have a Democrat in Congress, but the districts are shaped so that the urban area is carved up, squashing any Democratic strength.

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**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-change-your-2016-vote-if-you-could/815570/39 "2018-06-11T12:37:26Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> My state was going for Clinton either way. I voted for Johnson in the hope that the Libertarian party would hit 5% of the total votes and become eligible for Federal funding and, thereby, signal to the Republican party that they were missing a decent pool of voters in that direction.

Were we separated at birth? Same here.

In fact, I find that most of my votes over the last 10+ years have been largely protest/contrarian votes.

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**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-change-your-2016-vote-if-you-could/815570/40 "2018-06-11T12:55:19Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> If you voted third party or not at all, that was a vote for Chump.

More like half a vote. A vote for him counts twice as much as a third party vote.

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