# Would you date this woman?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-date-this-woman/36308>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 9, 2000, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-date-this-woman/36308 "2000-10-09T21:03:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Beetle99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Beetle99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beetle99)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2000, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-date-this-woman/36308/61 "2000-10-11T16:55:24Z")

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Those of you suggesting that a Doper jump through her hoops are suggesting a very dangerous endeavor…But I will offer my support and attention to the idea. I doubt we have anyone crazy enough to do it…it would take some real energy.

But I must reiterate it is a monstrously bad idea and could put the person in danger…but, like I said, I am in.

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**Author:** ![Turpentine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecd19e/32.png) [@Turpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turpentine)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2000, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-date-this-woman/36308/62 "2000-10-11T17:05:55Z")

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Yes, it is dangerous.

But really, I would settle for a Doper’s report on the phone conversation, but the whole date would be fantastic.

But when I say dangerous, I am thinking of Mary, too.  
It’s a really bad idea to post your phone number like that on a webpage and date people you don’t know at all.

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**Author:** ![Turpentine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecd19e/32.png) [@Turpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turpentine)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2000, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-date-this-woman/36308/63 "2000-10-11T17:07:05Z")

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Hey wait-

it’s 12:00 pm Central time now!

She should be out of bed by now!

Oh God, some man give her a call!

PLeeeeze!

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**Author:** ![DavisMcDavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@DavisMcDavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavisMcDavis)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2000, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-date-this-woman/36308/64 "2000-10-11T19:34:25Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Biggirl \*  
> \*\*You can date _me_. \*\*

Biggirl, I never, ever write LOL for someone’s post, but honey, that was the funniest thing I’ve read…uh, ever. And I really did laugh out loud, so you get my one and only (so far) honest LOL here on the SDMB. Huzzah!

PS - Tell me where to send the check. Dating you sounds FUN!

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**Author:** ![DavisMcDavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@DavisMcDavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavisMcDavis)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2000, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-date-this-woman/36308/65 "2000-10-11T19:53:06Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\*What I found ironic: she gives out her PHONE NUMBER, but won’t give out her e-mail, because of e-mail harassment…  
> While I’m sure it’s her voice mail, wouldn’t she also get harassment there? \*\*

She’s clearly not that bright, then she’s posting this on her AOL home page, which means at least one of her e-mail addresses is [Mary1777@aol.com](mailto:Mary1777@aol.com) , right?

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-date-this-woman/36308/66 "2000-10-12T15:14:24Z")

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This was my favorite part of the site.  
Though I like to defer to a man’s preferences a lot when I want to, I’m looking for a chivalrous man who’ll defer to me when I need him to, a man who’ll see me as the ultimate authority in our relationship. I’m not into fetish. I’m not into BDSM, and I’m not a part of the domination and submission scene in any way (except that I may place some of my personal ads in that community since there seems to be no community where I do fit). I’m not into pain, punishment, bondage, or humiliation. I’m a sweet dominant woman. I’m gentle, romantic, and wise; and I have the highest values. You can learn a lot more about the kind of dominant princess I am by reading my article on chivalry. I’ve also written several other articles to help you get to know me better.

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**Author:** ![lurkernomore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@lurkernomore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurkernomore)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-date-this-woman/36308/67 "2000-10-12T16:06:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Medea’s Child \*  
> \*\*Its like a putting a frog in a blender.
> 
> lurker, don’t even joke. Please.
> 
> I’ll chip in to have a Doper jump through her hoops and give us the Straight Dope. Who’s in Chicago that can act? They need to pull it off with a straight face.
> 
> Can we get streamed video?
> 
> I may call her anyway. I wonder what she would say to a chick trying to court her. \*\*

I shall stand aside.

She’s all yours. :D:

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**Author:** ![Turpentine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecd19e/32.png) [@Turpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turpentine)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-date-this-woman/36308/68 "2000-10-12T21:27:54Z")

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Sorry that I’m being squaresville now, but I brought myself to read more of her site and while most people have made jokes about how she needs serious help…

It’s not a joke. I feel bad. This woman obviously suffers from depression, among other things.

I think this website could be a case study in a psych textbook, a portrait of an obsessive-compulsive-dependent disorder? Or maybe something else? Or a little from each column?

I don’t know if she has any particular mental illness that could be named and classified, but there is a serious problem with this woman.

Even worse, people have told her so and in her twisted reality, she can’t possibly see this.  
She would never seek help because she thinks she doesn’t need it.

I don’t think that a whole bunch of fake calls to her in response to her personal is going to improve her problem, whatever it may be.  
It doesn’t help to make fun of these people. And someday if this fragile fantasy of hers is shattered somehow, she is going to take it really, really hard- she will probably never get over it.

Except-  
I admit it’s funny, and I can pull away from it and laugh at her, but I changed my mind about agreeing that anyone should call her just to report to us how it went.

It’s extremely unkind.

She is just fixated on this fantasy that doesn’t exist, and none of us can help her…

Sigh…

The world is really sick.

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**Author:** ![DavisMcDavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@DavisMcDavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavisMcDavis)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2000, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-date-this-woman/36308/69 "2000-10-13T00:54:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by astro \*  
> \*\*This was my favorite part of the site.
> 
> \<snip\>I’m a sweet dominant woman. I’m gentle, romantic, and wise; and I have the highest values. You can learn a lot more about the kind of dominant princess I am by reading my article on chivalry. I’ve also written several other articles to help you get to know me better.  
> \*\*

People have often told me that my excement smells like wildflowers. On our second date, I will expect you to bring a sample of my poo home with you and write a haiku about its beauty, which you may present to me on our third date.

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**Author:** ![DavisMcDavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@DavisMcDavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavisMcDavis)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2000, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-date-this-woman/36308/70 "2000-10-13T00:57:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Strider \*  
> \*\*I was cruising through her hate mail, laughing my ass off, when I came upon this little gem of a response to her:
> 
> "Hello Mary:
> 
> I saw your profile and you seem like a nice lady. One thing that bothered me though is your belief that there is no God. \*\*

I can’t understand that she doesn’t believe in God, but she believes she can get a date this way.

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**Author:** ![SkeptiJess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@SkeptiJess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkeptiJess)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2000, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-date-this-woman/36308/71 "2000-10-13T12:08:18Z")

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I agree that she is a bore, a control freak and (to be kind) an eccentric. What she is NOT is a lady. [Miss Manners] A lady never solicites strangers with the requirement that they give her gifts. [Miss Manners/]

No Chicago-area Dopers have volunteered to get the Straight Dope on this individual and report back to the Teeming Millions? Come on, fellas! No guts, no glory! ::holding up a 20 dollar bill as her share of the ‘gift’::

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2000, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-date-this-woman/36308/72 "2000-10-13T16:31:51Z")

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Does it seem to anyone else that AnalMary is going out of her way to try to be raped? I’m not joking or making fun of rape here either.

#1) She gives her potential attacker direct orders _not_ to discuss anything yukky and personal on his calls. He is to ONLY read the script, so she’s ruled out the “Talk to 'em for a few minutes and at least weed out the obvious looneys” method

#2) She says she’s “more home than not” on her webpage

#3) She gives her home phone number. A reverse-lookup would give her street address.

#4) When I showed this to my boss (a woman) she said “What kind of nutjob wants to go on a long walk with a guy she’s never met as a prelude to a first date. Perfect time to yank her into an alley somewhere.”

#5)It may be worse than that. Somewhere on her page, I thought she said that you might have to pick her up at her home (although elsewhere on another page on her site, she says that she’ll pick a location near her)… (I haven’t found that particular page again and I’m not wading through all 300 pages on her site). If she does want a home pickup on the first date with someone she’s never really talked to, then she’s definitly nuts.

Frankly, despite the fact that this woman is nuts and annoying, I hope that she quickly finds Mr. Right and takes all that personal info down fast before the worst happens.

Fenris

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**Author:** ![malkavia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malkavia/32/5621_2.png) [@malkavia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malkavia)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2000, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-date-this-woman/36308/73 "2000-12-09T04:37:03Z")

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I thought I was the only person who used the term “bunny boiler” for psycho bitches. =)

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2001, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-date-this-woman/36308/74 "2001-01-25T10:38:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\*Oh ugh. AND I thought Curry at [rubberburner.com](http://rubberburner.com) was bad!  
> Talk about selfish, conceited, and anal retentive!  
> \*\*

[rubberburner.com](http://rubberburner.com) isn’t a real site though. He’s a character in… I don’t remember what. A game? A show? Something. There are four of them, they all have fake sites like that. Damn if I remember the details though.

(sorry to bring up a dead thread! Don’t hit me! I got here from a link from a current thread… and damn… this Mary chick is WHACKED!)

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2001, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-date-this-woman/36308/75 "2001-01-26T00:43:58Z")

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This is sad. The woman doesn’t want a relationship, she wants a robot. Even a slave wouldn’t satisfy her.

> [@](#):
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> On any issue where a sacrifice has to be made by one of us, if I don’t wish to be the one to make the sacrifice, I want my mate to be more than willing to give what needs to be given, hardly counting the cost, for my sake. Why? Because I’m his lady fair and he loves to please me. I need him to be secure in my love for him so that he doesn’t need to attempt to extract proof that would be painful for me to give. What I have to give is a sharing of my whole consciousness, my personal power, my relationship skills, and my deepest affection, adoration, and devotion.

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> There are few lifestyle things that I’d ask a man to do that many men would find unreasonable, but to give you a clearer picture, I’ll mention the main examples of which I’m aware.
> 
> ```
> If you have a motorcycle, I'd ask you to never ride again. I know how fun a bike can be, but I wouldn't want to risk losing you that way.
> 
> Though I think animals are neat and I understand how important they can become to a person, if you have a pet, you'd have to give it up. I'd want all the attention (and when we're married, love and petting) that you'd give to your animal.
> 
> If you travel for a living, you'd have to find a new job. I don't want to spend a night apart from you.
> 
> If you're an airplane pilot, you'd have to give up flying. Even if we travel the world together (not that I need to), you'd have to be willing not to fly. I don't have a phobia about it. It's just a risk I'd want neither of us to take.
> 
> The man I seek would surrender his sexual psyche to me. Sir Lancelot was no hero to me. I need a man who wouldn't lust after or touch another man's wife or be unfaithful in the name of passion. I'd need you to, little by little, become a man who wouldn't dishonor a woman by kissing her before marriage. I'd ask you to unlearn a few habits if you had them, not to be titillating or arousing, but to help you learn to share a very special meaning of sex in our married life. That is — aside from your willingness to respect and appreciate our saving kissing, cuddling, and holding hands for marriage — you'd have to, if they were in your life, give up masturbation, pornography, sexual fantasy, and fetish. 
> 
> ```

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> I sometimes love to defer to a man’s preferences, when he has a preference, in many little things such as what movie we pick to rent, what we do for fun, or what restaurant we go to. And I’m very capable of making my preferences known  
> when my partner wants to yield to me in matters like these. At times when we both want to, I love to participate in  
> creative ways of figuring out what activity (or nonactivity) we’d both enjoy together as much as possible. I want my  
> partner to be very happy. Nevertheless, I want a man to have no expectation that I’ll defer to him in any particular  
> instance. I don’t want him to assume that I’ll ever do any specific thing for him if I haven’t specifically committed to doing it. Rather, I’d like a man to be so content with and appreciative of what I am like, of what he does experience in relationship with me, that he requires no extra gestures from me other than those that I choose to give with a whole heart.

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> I don’t work, and therefore, in a relationship, it would be great if the man could support me financially and provide a certain amount of security for me. However, because I’m looking for a man who values relationship more than anything else except for his own integrity, the man for me may not be a wage earner. He may be too depressed to work. (I’ve always had a simple lifestyle, and though I could also be happy with more, I’m content to be frugal. I don’t need a man for money; I need a man for the love we’ll share.) But even though I don’t work, I don’t want a man to need me to take care of him by doing such chores as his shopping, cooking, cleaning, or laundry.

The sad thing, I can sort of see some justification for some of the more domineering aspects of her requirements. She has experienced a lot of people not fulfilling her wishes, and not bothering to read any of what she posts, so she has tried to find a way to control that. But her solution does not allow the people to be human. She is unable to accept that people are people and will do what they do. She is not accepting flexibility. That’s her choice, but her attitude is ridiculous and unreasonable.

No, I wouldn’t date her. Even I don’t have that bad a self esteem. 😉

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**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2001, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-date-this-woman/36308/76 "2001-01-26T01:00:40Z")

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Hm.

Well, at least you could be sure that she’d never cheat on you; what are the odds that TWO guys would be willing to jump through those hoops?

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