# Would you give Mike Pence a chance? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [February 15, 2017, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-give-mike-pence-a-chance/779900 "2017-02-15T13:18:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-give-mike-pence-a-chance/779900/61 "2017-02-16T17:17:37Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I don’t like the word “meme,” but I don’t know how else to explain the right’s misconception about why we are unhappy. It’s really not that Hillary was denied her rightful place as the First Female President. We get that she lost, and if she lost to O’Malley or Kasich, or even Jeb Bush, we’d shrug and realize “that’s politics.” _Please_ try to understand the profound revulsion all rational people feel when they consider Mr. Trump occupies the Oval Office. It’s not a matter of Hillary losing, it’s who won that bothers us. Her rightful place as the first female president? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-give-mike-pence-a-chance/779900/62 "2017-02-16T17:19:45Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Her rightful place as the first female president? That’s an expression I hear from the right characterizing (mis-characterizing) the view of those of us on the left. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-give-mike-pence-a-chance/779900/63 "2017-02-16T17:51:41Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > He was known for [using the police to suppress votes](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/15/group-accuses-mike-pence-of-voter-suppression-after-state-police-raid-registration-program-in-indiana/?utm_term=.a362088b89c4). Do you have a cite that Pence was known to have used the police to suppress votes? Your link doesn’t provide anything like that. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-give-mike-pence-a-chance/779900/64 "2017-02-16T23:00:12Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > That’s an expression I hear from the right characterizing (mis-characterizing) the view of those of us on the left. From the shocked looks on the faces of all the disappointed Hillary fans immediately after it became clear that she had lost the general election, I don’t think it’s a mis-characterization. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-give-mike-pence-a-chance/779900/65 "2017-02-16T23:05:19Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I don’t like the word “meme,” but I don’t know how else to explain the right’s misconception about why we are unhappy. It’s really not that Hillary was denied her rightful place as the First Female President. We get that she lost, and if she lost to O’Malley or Kasich, or even Jeb Bush, we’d shrug and realize “that’s politics.” _Please_ try to understand the profound revulsion all rational people feel when they consider Mr. Trump occupies the Oval Office. It’s not a matter of Hillary losing, it’s who won that bothers us. I saw how the Democrat collective attacked fellow Democrats (remember those Bernie supporters) as if they were Republicans. It’s hard to believe that the Democrat collective would treat any Republican President any different than they have Trump. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-give-mike-pence-a-chance/779900/66 "2017-02-17T00:55:19Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > I saw how the Democrat collective attacked fellow Democrats (remember those Bernie supporters) as if they were Republicans. It’s hard to believe that the Democrat collective would treat any Republican President any different than they have Trump. I thought collectives were unified. If they’re disagreeing, how are they a collective? You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-give-mike-pence-a-chance/779900.md?page=3)