# Would you hang out on the work breakroom patio without your shirt? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 7, 2017, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-hang-out-on-the-work-breakroom-patio-without-your-shirt/788391 "2017-06-07T22:10:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-hang-out-on-the-work-breakroom-patio-without-your-shirt/788391/21 "2017-06-08T16:49:01Z")
Does is it an illegal or immoral act? No. Does it violate typical society and workplace norms? Yes. Unless he’s the head honcho or has some critical skill, this seems like a pretty foolish move to make at work. I’d expect him to get spoken to at least. Stuff like this likely makes his employer look for ways to get rid of him. If he surprises everyone with this, what’s next? ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-hang-out-on-the-work-breakroom-patio-without-your-shirt/788391/22 "2017-06-08T18:52:21Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I’ll give you modesty impaired. > > We were on a beach in St Martin, in chaise lounge chairs. My gf was talking with a French couple in that gibberish they speak in France. I learned later they were discussing swimwear shops and the deals that could be had. > > So, the woman tells her husband he should be wearing the suit he bought earlier that day. He stands up (right next to where I’m reclining) and gets his new suit out of their beach bag. He then changes suits, _standing right there_, while I wonder, WTeverlovingF?! > > Now _that_ is modesty impairment! Isn’t nudity tolerated in general at St. Martin, though? I know it’s officially allowed at Orient Beach, but if someone gets nude elsewhere, the _gendarmes_ usually won’t intervene unless someone else complains. ---
**Author:** ![LicketySplit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@LicketySplit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LicketySplit)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-hang-out-on-the-work-breakroom-patio-without-your-shirt/788391/23 "2017-06-08T19:18:47Z")
> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#): > > EW! ewewewewewewewewewewewewew. I cannot unsee. Gimme the brain bleach! > > So I’m just minding my business, going to get coffee around 1pm and in my peripheral vision see that someone’s out on the large patio. I made the unfortunate mistake of then looking over to see who it was. Oh, it’s Glenn. And he’s shirtless. What. The. Fuck. > > Who the hell does that? What if I wanted to eat lunch out there? Yes it’s sunny out. There are also surrounding apartment buildings on three sides, that can all look out to our nice big 2nd floor patio. I don’t think any of those folks would expect any more then I would, to find a shirtless dude sunning himself on this professional building. > > Said patio is also lined with 25 feet of glass, and is visible to anyone in either the break room or education center, or the large hallway that adjoins those rooms. > > Go on, tell me it’s totally normal to lunch at work without your shirt. I did not look at the profile page of the OP poster on this, but I bet anything its a woman. one between the ages of 20-30. Only that demographic would get so upset over such a trivial thing and then feel compelled to post their feelings on an online forum. LOL FWIW…yeah, sure, he has the right to take his shirt off if there is no company policy forbidding it. Besides, women are the last ones to speak of offensive public body showing. I am sick to death of… women showing us their baby bumps with tight fitting shirts and even bare bellies. Hey…news flash! Ladies! We. Don’t. Care. That.You’re Preggers. We know its a big deal to you but women have been having babies literally forever. Its as rare and interesting to us as oxygen molecules. Cover up. What happened to the modesty of the old maternity dresses? This is a product of the “me generation.” women breast feeding in public. Yeah yeah, you’re gonna say, “But it’s natural.” And I am gonna say, “Yeah, and so is taking a dump. And I don’t do that in public.” LOL Fat women wearing baby-tees or other types of belly shirts that show us all their pale, flabby, disgusting midriff. Do these women not have mirrors in their homes? Somebody maybe can explain to me: If they do, how can they possibly look into one and see that gut and think, “yeah, this looks good, we’ll go with this today.” To quote the OP… “Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.” LOL Cheers. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-hang-out-on-the-work-breakroom-patio-without-your-shirt/788391/24 "2017-06-08T19:22:54Z")
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DON’T TAKE THE BAIT DON’T TAKE THE BAIT DON’T TAKE THE BAIT DON’T TAKE THE BAIT DON’T TAKE THE BAIT DON’T TAKE THE BAIT DON’T TAKE THE BAIT DON’T TAKE THE BAIT In some European countries, workers will sunbathe in the park during lunch with some level of nudity. Totally accepted. But I believe it would not be tolerated if they tried to do the same back at the office. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-hang-out-on-the-work-breakroom-patio-without-your-shirt/788391/25 "2017-06-08T19:26:09Z")
\*\*SDT \*\*does your office have a dress code? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-hang-out-on-the-work-breakroom-patio-without-your-shirt/788391/26 "2017-06-08T19:28:36Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Isn’t nudity tolerated in general at St. Martin, though? I know it’s officially allowed at Orient Beach, but if someone gets nude elsewhere, the _gendarmes_ usually won’t intervene unless someone else complains. Nudity is fine; my gf had her top off, as did the French woman. A Frenchman’s penis waving in my face is another thing altogether, especially when it happens following a discussion in a language I do not capisce. 🙂 ETA: I wish I had video of the “event”. I’m reclining, he’s standing right by my head. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-hang-out-on-the-work-breakroom-patio-without-your-shirt/788391/27 "2017-06-08T19:49:06Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > why should I care? It’s none of my business. He’s outside, wants to soak in some sun. Go for it. > > I wouldn’t join in. That’s my choice. What he does is his choice. > > Management should consider a privacy screen for sections of the deck. Sun lovers can use that. > > We all leave for work very early and get home late evening. When else can we catch some rays? Lunch is the only opportunity. Yes, and that is what PUBLIC spaces are for. Taking your shirt off on company property is a different story. I guess the policy manual needs to be updated for yet another thing you would think people should know already. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Lowdown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Lowdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lowdown)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-hang-out-on-the-work-breakroom-patio-without-your-shirt/788391/28 "2017-06-08T20:07:12Z")
Yeah, no. Glenn, dude, wtf. ---
**Author:** ![LicketySplit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@LicketySplit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LicketySplit)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-hang-out-on-the-work-breakroom-patio-without-your-shirt/788391/29 "2017-06-08T21:23:13Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > DON’T TAKE THE BAIT DON’T TAKE THE BAIT DON’T TAKE THE BAIT DON’T TAKE THE BAIT DON’T TAKE THE BAIT DON’T TAKE THE BAIT DON’T TAKE THE BAIT DON’T TAKE THE BAIT > > In some European countries, workers will sunbathe in the park during lunch with some level of nudity. Totally accepted. But I believe it would not be tolerated if they tried to do the same back at the office. Indeed, American women can be crazy prudish. And there’s another dynamic at work here as well. About the whole “guy with no shirt on” thing. I won’t get into it now, for want of not straying too off-topic, but suffice it to say it ties-in with how many women also don’t like to see guys is speedos. And I’m talking even (especially?) fit, attractive, and slim men. It’s a strange deal on the surface but makes more sense when you think about it. A woman psych proff I had in undergrad school first told us about this deal. Anyway, yeah…European women are SOO much more hip. Cheers/ ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-hang-out-on-the-work-breakroom-patio-without-your-shirt/788391/30 "2017-06-08T22:02:49Z")
> [@LicketySplit](#): > > suffice it to say it ties-in with how many women also don’t like to see guys is speedos. And I’m talking even (especially?) fit, attractive, and slim men. It’s a strange deal on the surface but makes more sense when you think about it. I’m just a dumb woman – can you explain it to me? ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-hang-out-on-the-work-breakroom-patio-without-your-shirt/788391/31 "2017-06-08T23:59:24Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Nudity is fine; my gf had her top off, as did the French woman. A Frenchman’s penis waving in my face is another thing altogether, especially when it happens following a discussion in a language I do not capisce. 🙂 > > ETA: I wish I had video of the “event”. I’m reclining, he’s standing right by my head. Damn. No, I’m glad you don’t have video. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-hang-out-on-the-work-breakroom-patio-without-your-shirt/788391/32 "2017-06-09T00:56:03Z")
I’ve done it. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-hang-out-on-the-work-breakroom-patio-without-your-shirt/788391/33 "2017-06-09T00:57:43Z")
I used this thread as an inspiration today. We had one of the first nice days in the Boston area in 100 years or so it seems so I decided to take advantage of it. I went to a local lake beach, broke out my mobile lounger and just took my shirt off. It was just me posing freely with a blindingly white chest, my khakis and industrial Oxfords for all the world to see. I feel asleep fairly quickly only to be woken up a half hour later by a guy on a mountain bike that rode straight by me saying “Looking good!”. I said “Thanks man” before I fell asleep again. I didn’t run into any coworkers but one of them is bound to show up someday because it is a small area with not much going on. Judging by some of the shit they say to me, it is not a big worry. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-hang-out-on-the-work-breakroom-patio-without-your-shirt/788391/34 "2017-06-09T01:07:18Z")
As someone who works with mostly women, I could do with more shirtless men around the workplace. (Joking.) ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-hang-out-on-the-work-breakroom-patio-without-your-shirt/788391/35 "2017-06-09T17:00:51Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Damn. No, I’m glad you don’t have video. 😃 I’m reminded of this… [http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7eis1\_funniest-commercial-at-the-beach\_fun](http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7eis1_funniest-commercial-at-the-beach_fun) ---
**Author:** ![LicketySplit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@LicketySplit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LicketySplit)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-hang-out-on-the-work-breakroom-patio-without-your-shirt/788391/36 "2017-06-09T21:21:47Z")
> [@gigi](#): > > I’m just a dumb woman – can you explain it to me? I am sure I don’t need to. If you’re a heterosexual woman and have seen an attractive and fit man in a pair of tight speedos, you know the thoughts that entered, unbidden into your mind. Where on and in your body you felt what. And how you dealt with it. Some women deal with it by harboring and voicing resentment to the men who wear them. Claiming that they are forcing the women to have “non-appropriate” feelings. As you know, women are ALL about owning their emotions. And they hate to have them pushed upon them, unbidden. Especially when said emotions conflict with their accepted and preferred opinions of themselves and their attitudes. And their preferences. ---
**Author:** ![LicketySplit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@LicketySplit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LicketySplit)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-hang-out-on-the-work-breakroom-patio-without-your-shirt/788391/37 "2017-06-09T21:25:46Z")
> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#): > > Heh. I get where you’re going with that, but no. While I’ve been called one of the most bent straight people my friends know, I’m just not a fan of trying to have lunch _in a work setting_ with shirtless people in general. > > Put me in a night club and I’ll have appetizers served on a set of glistening oiled abs - that’s not remotely this. Sorry, I don’t buy it. I have trouble believing a woman who says. “Ewwwwww.” And…“what. the. fuck.” about a guy with his shirt off in the sun in a place where its OK to do so…is well-adjusted and open minded concerning the male body in a public setting. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-hang-out-on-the-work-breakroom-patio-without-your-shirt/788391/38 "2017-06-09T22:22:36Z")
No. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-hang-out-on-the-work-breakroom-patio-without-your-shirt/788391/39 "2017-06-10T02:09:47Z")
> [@LicketySplit](#): > > Sorry, I don’t buy it. > > I have trouble believing a woman who says. “Ewwwwww.” And…“what. the. fuck.” about a guy with his shirt off in the sun in a place where its OK to do so…is well-adjusted and open minded concerning the male body in a public setting. You have issues dude. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-hang-out-on-the-work-breakroom-patio-without-your-shirt/788391/40 "2017-06-10T02:22:06Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > You have issues dude. I just think it’s hilarious he thinks we’re afraid of our sexual feelings. This isn’t the 1800s. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-hang-out-on-the-work-breakroom-patio-without-your-shirt/788391.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-hang-out-on-the-work-breakroom-patio-without-your-shirt/788391.md?page=3)