# Would you have trouble being friends with someone involved in multi-level marketing? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 22, 2011, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-have-trouble-being-friends-with-someone-involved-in-multi-level-marketing/597228 "2011-09-22T18:33:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-have-trouble-being-friends-with-someone-involved-in-multi-level-marketing/597228/21 "2011-09-23T18:07:45Z")
A friend of mine decided that Amway was the key to his future. I went to one of his recruiting meetings. It has been years, so I honestly do not remember the amounts, but I was asked to come up with some money to start. In exchange for that cash, I received a sales kit with a selection of products that retailed for about twice the amount I had to front. My first move was to sell those products at retail. After that I never ordered a product from my distributor that I did not already have sold. I talked to my friend a few times a week and he was always trying to get me to buy the motivational books and tapes, and to buy stuff in case lots so I could deliver the products right away. For about six months, I made a little bit of money, about enough for my wife and I to go out to a nice dinner and a movie a couple of times a month. There was some pressure to buy into the motivational stuff, but mostly I just picked up the stuff I had already sold. Eventually I just lost interest My friend decided that he really needed to invest in his future. He took out a second mortgage and filled his garage with product. He and his wife went to sales meetings and conventions, and bought every scrap of literature. They almost lost their house. We remained friends with them, and had dinner with them a few weeks ago. They never want to talk about Amway, but I bet there is a better than even chance that they still have some of that stuff in their garage. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-have-trouble-being-friends-with-someone-involved-in-multi-level-marketing/597228/22 "2011-09-23T18:18:45Z")
No, I couldn’t be friends with someone who currently drinks the Amway/Monavie juice. You aren’t their friend, you’re a potential business prospect. I lost two friends who took advantage of someone else’s social event (e.g an engagement party and a tennis party) to corner people and try to rope them into their pyramid schemes. Neither time did the host realize it before it was too late. The one woman, an Amway nut, had been my friend for about 7 years before she joined Amway. It took her about 6 months to scare off our entire group of friends. Now none of us speak to her anymore. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-have-trouble-being-friends-with-someone-involved-in-multi-level-marketing/597228/23 "2011-09-23T18:35:35Z")
I used to be friends with a guy who was middle management level for “the numbers” (like the state’s lottery, but a better pay out). It kinda bothered me, but it wasn’t really a big deal. But Amway? No way. ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-have-trouble-being-friends-with-someone-involved-in-multi-level-marketing/597228/24 "2011-09-23T18:36:01Z")
> [@LH75](#): > > A friend of mine decided that Amway was the key to his future. I went to one of his recruiting meetings. It has been years, so I honestly do not remember the amounts, but I was asked to come up with some money to start. In exchange for that cash, I received a sales kit with a selection of products that retailed for about twice the amount I had to front. > > My first move was to sell those products at retail. After that I never ordered a product from my distributor that I did not already have sold. I talked to my friend a few times a week and he was always trying to get me to buy the motivational books and tapes, and to buy stuff in case lots so I could deliver the products right away. > > For about six months, I made a little bit of money, about enough for my wife and I to go out to a nice dinner and a movie a couple of times a month. There was some pressure to buy into the motivational stuff, but mostly I just picked up the stuff I had already sold. Eventually I just lost interest > > My friend decided that he really needed to invest in his future. He took out a second mortgage and filled his garage with product. He and his wife went to sales meetings and conventions, and bought every scrap of literature. > > They almost lost their house. We remained friends with them, and had dinner with them a few weeks ago. They never want to talk about Amway, but I bet there is a better than even chance that they still have some of that stuff in their garage. Yeesh. This is the reason I hate Amway. The products that I’ve tried actually tend to be decent - but the company focuses FAR more on roping people in, and getting subordinates roped in, than on selling a product. ---
**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-have-trouble-being-friends-with-someone-involved-in-multi-level-marketing/597228/25 "2011-09-23T18:44:31Z")
> [@Mama\_Zappa](#): > > Yeesh. This is the reason I hate Amway. The products that I’ve tried actually tend to be decent - but the company focuses FAR more on roping people in, and getting subordinates roped in, than on selling a product. I’m the same way - I grew up with Amway because a relative started selling it in the 50s or 60s. It was never a hard-sell thing with them, they bought it because they liked it and so did we. I still like their products, but the relative has moved away, and I really absolutely don’t want anything to do with a real distributor. Which is a bummer, because I can’t find an alternative to Scrub Buds that I really like. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-have-trouble-being-friends-with-someone-involved-in-multi-level-marketing/597228/26 "2011-09-23T18:57:20Z")
As some others have said, I don’t think that I could be friends with someone who is currently involved with a MLM company. Either this person is incredibly naive, dishonest, or stupid. If it’s the first, maybe they can learn some healthy cynicism, but I am not prepared to fix every broken person I come across. If it’s the second or third, well, dishonest people rarely are capable of becoming honest, and you just can’t fix stupid. I don’t want to hang around someone who views me as a potential sucker. ---
**Author:** ![Igrapeape](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Igrapeape](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Igrapeape)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-have-trouble-being-friends-with-someone-involved-in-multi-level-marketing/597228/27 "2011-09-23T19:16:16Z")
It would help to know what company it is. As people have stated some have religious overtones, some wait to build up friendships and then they have “the talk” with you, putting you on the defense instead of you having “the talk” with them. > [@Athena](#): > > I’ve recently become acquainted with a couple who are big into a very popular multi-level marketing company. From all appearances, they’re some of the few who are extremely successful at it. A little Google snooping comes up with some pretty convincing info that they’re making in the realm of a million bucks a year, and their lifestyle seems to support that. They have a huge, beautiful house, drive really nice cars, etc. etc. > > I pretty much expected to hate them when I met them. But… I don’t. They seem very down-to-earth, nice, fun people. Despite every piece of clothing both of them wear being emblazoned with their company logo (to the point I honestly was wondering if it was on their underwear too), they didn’t mention their company at all. They were at a birthday party of a mutual friend, and we’d all expressed some misgivings about them coming before they showed up (they were old friends with the birthday girl, and she hadn’t seen them in forever, invited them out of politeness never expecting they’d show up, but they accepted) they were really fun to be around and I talked to both of them quite a bit. > > I have a lot in common with the woman, and we talked about getting together sometime. It’d definitely be a friendship I’d try to keep up with, were it not for the MLM thing. The more I read about their particular company, the more turned-off I get. It seems like the only people who are successful at it are successful because they are completely at ease lying to people about their products, cajoling them into becoming distributors, and generally being icky people. > > I also worry about eventually being given the hard sell on their crap. Once again, it wasn’t mentioned at all in the several hours they were at the party. But… still… > > Am I being overly critical? It’s just so weird. I was totally expecting these people to be pushy, smarmy, or worse, and they were none of that. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-have-trouble-being-friends-with-someone-involved-in-multi-level-marketing/597228/28 "2011-09-23T19:18:05Z")
To echo what other people are saying, the problem with these people is not so much that they are into MLMs. It’s that they are often disinginuous, manipulative, narcissistic and cult-like. As it happens, MLMs tend to attract these sort of people. Given the returns on these sort of schemes, I suspect that the more extravagent ones are heavily leveraged as well. Whether it’s an MLM, a more conventional company, religeon, cult, fraternity/sorority or any other organization, these type of people define their identity so strongly with that group that they are incapable of any sort of objective reasoning with respect to it. You are only their “friend” in as such that you can support their involvement with that group, whether it is financially, professionally, emotionally or whatever. If you do not provide that support, you will be rejected like a virus. Because of that, it is difficult to impossible to be “friends” in any real way: You can’t talk to them objectively about their shitty business because a “friend” would support them in their goals and objectives. They can’t have "negative people in their lives. You can’t be a “friend” and not buy from them. Why wouldn’t you accept help from someone who only wants to help you maximize your potential by buying their knives, makeup or whatever other crap? ---
**Author:** ![Igrapeape](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Igrapeape](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Igrapeape)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-have-trouble-being-friends-with-someone-involved-in-multi-level-marketing/597228/29 "2011-09-23T19:21:38Z")
Why even patch things up, you know there is underlying resentment just oozing to come out at the first real fight you have. Let that friendship go and make new ones, in the car business 2 weeks is an eternity, something could have been done if everything was above board on the Amway end. > [@Yarster](#): > > Oh this is a tough one for me. > > My wife and I are friends with a couple where the wife in that couple sells Amway. When she started doing it, she tried to pitch it to us and in no uncertain terms we told her that 1) we weren’t interested and 2) if she wanted us to all remain friends, then she would not try to use the friendship in any way to guilt or obligate us into buying things from her. That worked very well until I did something stupid. > > She had said that Amway sells everything at great prices, including cars. O.k., I said, if that is the case, in 2003, I was planning to buy a new and somewhat expensive car. I had the financing in place, had researched the vehicle heavily, had a buyer for my old car, and knew what I could get the new car for from the dealer having bargained them down as far as I felt I could. This was for a 2003 Infiniti FX35 SUV. I told her if she could match the best price I had gotten from the dealer through whatever Amway network she had, I would buy the car from her. It would still be coming from a dealer since it was the first year they made the car, and I couldn’t think of any shenanigans Amway could pull since with outside financing, it was a completely cash transaction from their standpoint, so I saw it as low risk. I figured that as a friend, she would get some kind of ‘credit’ or something for the sale, so it would help her out at no cost to me beyond what I had otherwise planned to spend. Great, she needed a week to make it happen. When she made zero progress in that week, I told her I would give her one more week, and that at the end of the week, I was buying it from the dealer as I had originally planned. That week went by and so I bought it as planned from the dealer. Then our friendship turned sour for about a year after that. Why? Because I was apparently an asshole for wasting her time because I “never intended to buy the car from her”. Uh, what? Last time I checked, I was very clear on the timeline. I was led to believe that if she had “just a little more time” she would have gotten me the car. I’m sorry, but I saw zero forward progress in two weeks to make a $37,000+ sale. Eventually we patched things up with the couple, and the original rules still apply. Had we not been friends with them prior to her starting Amway, however, I’m sure that would have been a deal breaker. > > We recently met another couple on a camping trip that we liked and thought that was really going to go somewhere. Shortly afterward, the guy called me at work and wanted to get together for coffee, after which I got a sales pitch for some kind of annuity MLM crap he was pitching. I told him I wasn’t interested and that I also wasn’t interested in being friends since I felt their initial interest in us had been as a sales prospect from the start. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-have-trouble-being-friends-with-someone-involved-in-multi-level-marketing/597228/30 "2011-09-24T13:43:12Z")
I had a friend who got roped into a vacuum-cleaner sales scam. (He’s not to bright, really) He said he wanted to “practice” his sales pitch on me. I said no way. He assured me it was only “pracitce”. Sure, go for it then. I got an hour to kill drinking beer. He tries to sell me a $1200 vacuum! Then he tries to get me to speak to some sponsor asshole on the phone! I hung up on the sponsor asshole after telling him to NEVER call me again, and then told my friend that if I hadn’t known him for so long, I would physically throw him out the door. I picked his pathetic sales presentation apart (bags _don’t_ cost $5 each and you _don’t_ change them twice a day! If it breaks, I _woudn’t_ spend $300 to have it repaired!), then told him the last thing I spent $1200 on had 300hp and 4 wheel drive. I wonder how much money he lost on that whole episode. ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-have-trouble-being-friends-with-someone-involved-in-multi-level-marketing/597228/31 "2011-09-24T15:21:22Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > In principle, I wouldn’t have a problem with it, but in practice, my experience has been that people involved in MLM are strongly encouraged to regard their circle of friends as a pool of potential converts - and are often so focused on growing their chain (or whatever the goddam term du jour is) that they will keep on hammering at their friends until they either a)drink the kool-aid or b)turn away in exasperated frustration. > > I’ve lost several friends this way (actually, in one case, they lost interest in me, because I wouldn’t join Amway). > [@PunditLisa](#): > > No, I couldn’t be friends with someone who currently drinks the Amway/Monavie juice. You aren’t their friend, you’re a potential business prospect. I lost two friends who took advantage of someone else’s social event (e.g an engagement party and a tennis party) to corner people and try to rope them into their pyramid schemes. Neither time did the host realize it before it was too late. The one woman, an Amway nut, had been my friend for about 7 years before she joined Amway. It took her about 6 months to scare off our entire group of friends. Now none of us speak to her anymore. Quoted both for truth. When I sold insurance, I worked for a guy who had cynically managed to get his kids invited to every birthday party their classmates, soccer teammates, Sunday school classmates, and who-knows-who-else’s threw. He always went to every party and rather skillfully turned the conversation to personal finance and such, then made his pitch. He claimed to be successful with this strategy, and encouraged those of us who are parents to do the same. One day, though, one of these parents called him at work and accused him of using her and the other parents; it turned out that his kids didn’t get along with the birthday child very well which caused some problems at the party. (The only reason I heard this conversation was because this guy was a douchebag who took every call on speakerphone to show what a big macher he was. He stopped doing it after that.) ---
**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2011, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-have-trouble-being-friends-with-someone-involved-in-multi-level-marketing/597228/32 "2011-09-25T04:57:22Z")
This thread reminds me of the movie “The Joneses”, where we get to see Demi Moore and David Duchovny creepily manipulate their friends and neighbors into out-buying each other. > **[The Joneses (2009) ⭐ 6.4 | Comedy, Drama](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1285309/)** > > 1h 36m | R ---
**Author:** ![Zulema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/db5fbb/32.png) [@Zulema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zulema)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-have-trouble-being-friends-with-someone-involved-in-multi-level-marketing/597228/33 "2011-09-26T16:45:31Z")
I am fb friends with a high school class mate who recently started selling Reliv products. All she posts about is going to these fabulous meetings and how successful the people she meets are. Now she wants to call me about something and I know it’s just going to be a whole sales pitch about something I don’t want to buy. At least she’s going to pitch me for a problem my relative has so I can just say I’ll pass along the information. I asked her to send a link but she hasn’t. I’m totally avoiding the phone call, I haven’t talked to her since 1997. Worst thing is that I can’t complain about it on fb. I can’t even sign on to fb or post because then she might think I’m available for a phone call. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-have-trouble-being-friends-with-someone-involved-in-multi-level-marketing/597228/34 "2011-09-26T17:08:03Z")
> [@Zulema](#): > > I am fb friends with a high school class mate who recently started selling Reliv products. All she posts about is going to these fabulous meetings and how successful the people she meets are. Now she wants to call me about something and I know it’s just going to be a whole sales pitch about something I don’t want to buy. At least she’s going to pitch me for a problem my relative has so I can just say I’ll pass along the information. I asked her to send a link but she hasn’t. > > I’m totally avoiding the phone call, I haven’t talked to her since 1997. Worst thing is that I can’t complain about it on fb. I can’t even sign on to fb or post because then she might think I’m available for a phone call. And why do you keep her as a FB friend, exactly? ---
**Author:** ![Zulema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/db5fbb/32.png) [@Zulema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zulema)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-have-trouble-being-friends-with-someone-involved-in-multi-level-marketing/597228/35 "2011-09-26T17:17:29Z")
This is all very recent. She just asked to call me last week and I haven’t had a chance to block her. I hope I can have the one phone call then not talk to her about it anymore. Before this we were just starting to be reacquainted which I was enjoying. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-have-trouble-being-friends-with-someone-involved-in-multi-level-marketing/597228/36 "2011-09-26T17:23:48Z")
> [@Zulema](#): > > This is all very recent. She just asked to call me last week and I haven’t had a chance to block her. I hope I can have the one phone call then not talk to her about it anymore. Before this we were just starting to be reacquainted which I was enjoying. I’d say there’s a 99% chance that the only reason you were becoming reacquainted was because she saw you as a potential mark. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-have-trouble-being-friends-with-someone-involved-in-multi-level-marketing/597228/37 "2011-09-26T18:35:16Z")
> [@Zulema](#): > > I’m totally avoiding the phone call, I haven’t talked to her since 1997. Worst thing is that I can’t complain about it on fb. I can’t even sign on to fb or post because then she might think I’m available for a phone call. Quit giving her so much power. Remove her from your FB friend list and be done with it. ---
**Author:** ![Full\_Metal\_Lotus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/df705f/32.png) [@Full\_Metal\_Lotus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Full_Metal_Lotus)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-have-trouble-being-friends-with-someone-involved-in-multi-level-marketing/597228/38 "2011-09-26T19:23:32Z")
I work for a company whose name sounds a lot like AMWAY it has zero connection with them, and is an industrial and technical parts supplier. When I phoned my brother to tell him about being hired by them he shut me down and quickly changed the subject. In a later conversation I was shut down almost immeadiately when I started talking about work. I asked him what the problem was, and he said that he is not interested in AMWAY, and does not want to hear anything about it. I straightened him out and then it was all good. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-have-trouble-being-friends-with-someone-involved-in-multi-level-marketing/597228/39 "2011-09-26T20:34:40Z")
> [@Zulema](#): > > I am fb friends with a high school class mate who recently started selling Reliv products. All she posts about is going to these fabulous meetings and how successful the people she meets are. Now she wants to call me about something and I know it’s just going to be a whole sales pitch about something I don’t want to buy. > [@Bob Ducca](#): > > And why do you keep her as a FB friend, exactly? You know, reading this reminded me that I have a fb friend who is not only involved in ONE MLM scheme, she’s involved in ALL of them. Literally, every post is about some new stupid MLM that she’s trying to get rich on. ‘Ask me about the great opportunity you can get into to make lots of $$!’ Every. Frikin’. Post. and I dont’ even like her. I think I’ll be blocking her promptly. I have no idea why I haven’t before now. Dumb, I guess. To the OP, it depends on the MLM and how the friend approached things. I actually like tupper wear, victorian epicure, papered chef, etc and am friends with women who sell these things. I buy things from them when I need and none of them have ever pestered me to sign up and sell myself or whatever. In that case, it’s no problem. I think if it was an unethical product, or it was all I ever heard about, I would not be friends. Personally I think you should try to reconnect with this gal in a low key way and see how it goes - if she’s not pressuring you to buy or sell or whatever, it might work out OK. If she does do those things, just stop calling her back. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-have-trouble-being-friends-with-someone-involved-in-multi-level-marketing/597228/40 "2011-09-26T23:04:57Z")
> [@Full\_Metal\_Lotus](#): > > I work for a company whose name sounds a lot like AMWAY it has zero connection with them, and is an industrial and technical parts supplier. When I phoned my brother to tell him about being hired by them he shut me down and quickly changed the subject. In a later conversation I was shut down almost immeadiately when I started talking about work. I asked him what the problem was, and he said that he is not interested in AMWAY, and does not want to hear anything about it. > > I straightened him out and then it was all good. Sounds familiar. One of my sisters works at Amway HQ. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-have-trouble-being-friends-with-someone-involved-in-multi-level-marketing/597228.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-have-trouble-being-friends-with-someone-involved-in-multi-level-marketing/597228.md?page=3)