# Would you stand for a Star Wars reboot? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 2, 2012, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-stand-for-a-star-wars-reboot/630130 "2012-08-02T00:52:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-stand-for-a-star-wars-reboot/630130/41 "2012-08-03T12:08:42Z")
> [@Suil\_Dubh](#): > > Also, IIRC, the same article mentioned that the next film was going to be called “Revenge of the Jedi”. It _was_ in fact called that for a while before its release. I worked at a theater at the time, and we had \*Revenge of the Jedi \*posters on display. When they were recalled, management was very firmly instructed to make damn sure _every_ copy of every poster was accounted for and sent back. I did, however, manage to snag a pin-on button with the original title, and I still have it. (Wonder if it’s worth anything now?) ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-stand-for-a-star-wars-reboot/630130/42 "2012-08-03T12:21:35Z")
> [@Ranchoth](#): > > And, personally, I don’t think there’s enough wrong with the prequels that couldn’t be fixed by just redubbing with some new dialogue. Possibly with a few new actors, here and there. They could do the whole movie with that one Russian guy doing a voiceover in monotone. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-stand-for-a-star-wars-reboot/630130/43 "2012-08-03T12:22:05Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > It _was_ in fact called that for a while before its release. I worked at a theater at the time, and we had \*Revenge of the Jedi \*posters on display. When they were recalled, management was very firmly instructed to make damn sure _every_ copy of every poster was accounted for and sent back. I did, however, manage to snag a pin-on button with the original title, and I still have it. (Wonder if it’s worth anything now?) [About 15 bucks.](http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_nkw=Revenge+of+the+jedi+poster&_nkwusc=Revenge+OfTheJedi+poster&_rdc=1) ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-stand-for-a-star-wars-reboot/630130/44 "2012-08-03T13:18:16Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > [About 15 bucks.](http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_nkw=Revenge+of+the+jedi+poster&_nkwusc=Revenge+OfTheJedi+poster&_rdc=1) [This](http://www.ebay.com/itm/Revenge-of-the-Jedi-Button-Rare-Original-name-of-Return-of-the-Jedi-/221058906844?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3378233adc) is what I have. No sales over 10 dollars in the past few months. Guess I’ll hang on to it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Suil\_Dubh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85f322/32.png) [@Suil\_Dubh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suil_Dubh)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-stand-for-a-star-wars-reboot/630130/45 "2012-08-03T13:43:38Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > [About 15 bucks.](http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_nkw=Revenge+of+the+jedi+poster&_nkwusc=Revenge+OfTheJedi+poster&_rdc=1) Those be reprints, yo. From your same link, originals seem to be in the hundreds and thousands. > [@Wheelz](#): > > [This](http://www.ebay.com/itm/Revenge-of-the-Jedi-Button-Rare-Original-name-of-Return-of-the-Jedi-/221058906844?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3378233adc) is what I have. No sales over 10 dollars in the past few months. > > Guess I’ll hang on to it. 🙂 Hang on to it! When I was a kid, right after the original movie came out, I used to have a huge button that said “Darth Vader Lives!” over a silhouette of his helmet. I don’t care about resale value, that’s just something I wish I still had. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-stand-for-a-star-wars-reboot/630130/46 "2012-08-03T15:42:00Z")
A huge part of creating a masterpiece is knowing when to put down the paint brush/chisel/camera. With Star Wars, it is that time. It is what it is, and I think it’s as good as it can get. Futzing with it any further is just going to cause distraction (WTF? Jabba The Hut blocking Luke’s & Obi-Wan’s escape from Tatooine? I don’t remember that!) and make it worse. And right now I think it’s perfectly acceptable. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-stand-for-a-star-wars-reboot/630130/47 "2012-08-03T17:57:39Z")
I would’t want to see a reboot. I think there are plenty of reboots out there already and it would be a disservice to the original trilogy for Lucas to redo it. I am interested in the Star Wars universe though and I wouldn’t mind seeing another trilogy developed, either many years before New Hope or 50-100 years after. I would really like to see someone else develop it though under Lucas’s guidance. Get a good team of writers and a good director involved. Get someone in there who can say “Hey George, we love Star Wars, we love it a lot. Let us take control of it and make a good story for you” instead of smiling and nodding when Lucas comes up with the next Jar Jar Binks. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-stand-for-a-star-wars-reboot/630130/48 "2012-08-03T18:47:36Z")
I skipped most of the responses. I’m terribly afraid fof the casting choices that would be made, so I have just have one question; _ **Do you want to see Shia LeBouf as Han Solo? Well do you?** _ Because that’s what those fuckers would give us. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-stand-for-a-star-wars-reboot/630130/49 "2012-08-03T18:49:44Z")
No. I’d sit. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-stand-for-a-star-wars-reboot/630130/50 "2012-08-03T18:53:13Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > I am interested in the Star Wars universe though and I wouldn’t mind seeing another trilogy developed, either many years before New Hope or 50-100 years after. I would really like to see someone else develop it though under Lucas’s guidance. Get a good team of writers and a good director involved. Get someone in there who can say “Hey George, we love Star Wars, we love it a lot. Let us take control of it and make a good story for you” instead of smiling and nodding when Lucas comes up with the next Jar Jar Binks. Something like what happened with Roddenbury after Star Trek the motion picture? ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-stand-for-a-star-wars-reboot/630130/51 "2012-08-03T19:27:25Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Something like what happened with Roddenbury after Star Trek the motion picture? Sure why not. Moving away from Roddenbury after the Motion Picture begat Wrath of Khan, which was arguably the best movie of the franchise. ---
**Author:** ![Rhaegar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/51bf81/32.png) [@Rhaegar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhaegar)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-stand-for-a-star-wars-reboot/630130/52 "2012-08-03T19:42:18Z")
Gods no, why? They are already re-releasing 3D versions. I would rather that Lucas took his hand off the wheel and let someone else make a 3-5 movies series about the Jedi knights back in the time of the Old Republic. I don’t know why they haven’t done so already. Probably Lucas is too lazy to do it himself, and yet unwilling to let someone else handle it. Duct tape is like the Force. There is a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-stand-for-a-star-wars-reboot/630130/53 "2012-08-03T19:57:10Z")
Not only should the original three be remade, they should be remade as completely CGI films by Lucas! And Lucas should destroy all existing prints of the previous versions! [/super\_villain] Seriously though, I wouldn’t mind a reboot as long as it were internally consistent and intelligently directed. Get rid of some of the more stupid stuff from the originals. The Kessel-run, the space worm with an atmosphere and gravity in its belly, Ewoks, Boba-Fett’s chump of the millennia death scene, the “let’s let someone with mild mental retardation devise our plan to rescue Han” thing, and I’m sure I’m missing a few others. And I’m about to blow your mind: Ryan Gosling as Han Solo. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-stand-for-a-star-wars-reboot/630130/54 "2012-08-03T21:05:14Z")
> [@Rhaegar](#): > > Gods no, why? They are already re-releasing 3D versions. I would rather that Lucas took his hand off the wheel and let someone else make a 3-5 movies series about the Jedi knights back in the time of the Old Republic. I don’t know why they haven’t done so already. Probably Lucas is too lazy to do it himself, and yet unwilling to let someone else handle it. > > Duct tape is like the Force. There is a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together. Knights of the Old Republic could be a great movie franchise. And come to think of it, so could Starkillers adventures. ---
**Author:** ![tomcar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tomcar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomcar)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-stand-for-a-star-wars-reboot/630130/55 "2012-08-03T21:16:43Z")
Pour all that money into The Han Solo story. Or Mace Windu and there are snakes on his spaceship. Reboot is such a dirty word. ---
**Author:** ![Namkcalb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c89c15/32.png) [@Namkcalb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Namkcalb)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-stand-for-a-star-wars-reboot/630130/56 "2012-08-03T23:49:51Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > And I’m about to blow your mind: Ryan Gosling as Han Solo. I think [Nathan Fillion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Fillion) would be better, he effectively played a Han-like character in Firefly ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-stand-for-a-star-wars-reboot/630130/57 "2012-08-03T23:55:21Z")
> [@Namkcalb](#): > > I think [Nathan Fillion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Fillion) would be better, he effectively played a Han-like character in Firefly Well, yeah, ten years ago maybe. But he’s gettin’ on in years at this point. Not that I wouldn’t sign on to his ship, by the way. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-stand-for-a-star-wars-reboot/630130/58 "2012-08-04T01:10:18Z")
> [@LaurenIpsum](#): > > -we could lose the “Jedi uniform” which somehow got conflated with the standard clothing of Tatooine. Luke and Obi-Wan dressed the way they did because it’s how people on Tatooine dressed - brown robes aren’t some kind of Jedi uniform, otherwise why is Uncle Owen wearing it too? And Luke didn’t dress that way in Return of the Jedi when he finally was considered an actual Jedi. This is a big part of Aaron Diaz’s argument that Lucas screwed up the prequels because he didn’t understand the continuity of his own franchise. Diaz points out that other people fleshed out ESB while Lucas wasn’t even in the country, and the original trilogy wasn’t really all Lucas’s, creatively. [http://www.iconsf.org/blog/766](http://www.iconsf.org/blog/766) [http://dresdencodak.tumblr.com/tagged/star-wars](http://dresdencodak.tumblr.com/tagged/star-wars) > [@Larry\_Mudd](#): > > Hell, no - > > I think I am one of the few people on the planet that think Lucas got it right in the beginning and remained true to his original vision every time he returned to it. > > There is no denying that there is room for improvement in the prequels (my main complaint being the length of the pod-race in _The Phantom Menace_, and that some of the revisions to the original trilogy are subtractive rather than additive, but the most common criticisms are rooted in a total misunderstanding of what _Star Wars_ was meant to be. > > _Star Wars_ is an ode to the Republic sci-fi serials of the '30s and '40s. It’s supposed to be nostalgia, taking the essence of these films and fleshing it out and polishing it up for modern audiences, but meant to be kiddie fare at its heart. Most of the whining about how later efforts fall short of the mark are rooted in people being less receptive to the juvenile roots of the franchise after they mature - they honestly thought that the original movies were full of gravitas. > > A reboot would either ignore the roots of the franchise (and therefore not be good _Star Wars_ at all,) or meet with the same sort of criticisms Lucas did. > > Even me, I have a hard time with “Han was unambiguously defending himself.” Hell, in original drafts, he and Chewie rifled through Luke and Obi-wan’s things while they slept - I see his character become simpler and simpler from conception to realization, leaving an interesting character arc behind in favour of being a bland White Hat from the beginning. I can’t really get behind it, but it’s true to the source material - more so than the fleshed out character. > > Jar-jar? He is meant to appeal to kids - just like R2-D2, jawas, and Yoda, and Ewoks. A harder sell when you are 30, and nostalgic for the _very serious_ (but actually non-existent) films you remember from before your puberty. > > Do I want to see _Star Wars_ as imagined by someone who knows only that Boba Fett is bad-ass but has no idea who [Commando Cody](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l0jpbd05uA) is? No. > > Star Wars is supposed to be corny, fun, and occasionally sublime. I don’t really trust anyone else to understand that. Any other asshole is going to try to make a serious movie out of it, and that would just be sad and embarrassing. I agree with you that Jar-Jar Binks is not a betrayal of a series that had Jawas, C-3PO, the muppets in Jabba’s palace, and Ewoks. I liked that stuff as a kid, and it’s part of the world. Too many fans don’t get it. The reuse of Tatooine in the prequels was a failure of imagination though. It’s not a small-budget production that has to reuse sets, so Lucas made a creative choice that Tatooine was just where he wanted to go. Bleh. At least Naboo was cool-looking. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-stand-for-a-star-wars-reboot/630130/59 "2012-08-04T01:54:24Z")
Hm. Maybe it wasn’t Aaron Diaz who made the point I’m remembering about Lucas going from “working with others” to “doing it himself” and screwing it up. Who was it then? Oh, well. Maybe it was a comment on a mightygodking post, in which case I don’t expect to find it. ---
**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-stand-for-a-star-wars-reboot/630130/60 "2012-08-04T02:17:41Z")
If it was well written, well-acted, and showed respect to the fans and source material (a’la Sam Raimi’s labor of love in the first Spiderman trilogy) it can’t go wrong. However, if they just slapped a bunch of concepts together that contradicted what we know about the history in an obvious effort to make money, it can’t possibly be good (e.g. Indy 4.) My big concern though is the expanded universe. There’s so much nerd jizz on the original concepts that you can’t tell up from down anymore. If they stick to the original series, the nerds are going to explode. If they use the nerdiverse, fans of the original will feel betrayed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-stand-for-a-star-wars-reboot/630130.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-stand-for-a-star-wars-reboot/630130.md?page=4)