# Would you support a war with Iran? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 27, 2012, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-support-a-war-with-iran/610795 "2012-01-27T00:30:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-support-a-war-with-iran/610795/81 "2012-01-28T18:59:01Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > how many governments have fallen in that area of the world in the last 2 years? I’ve lost count. If I pick up the paper tomorrow and Syria is added to the list I wouldn’t be remotely surprised. Sure, and Central American and Caribbean governments have a long history of instability, which does not make the United States an unstable government because it happens to be nearby. Iran isn’t Syria. It’s not Iraq. It’s a different country populated by different people who speak a different language. Unlike those countries, it has a core national population who think of Iran as their nation, one with a long history. Whatever their problem with the regime a lot of people in Iran will take the position that “well, they make be sons of bitches, but they’re our sons of bitches.” Like Fiendish Astronaut notes, it seems to me as an outsider that the U.S. is in the early stages of hyping itself up for war. I hope Obama’s re-elected if for no other reason than he might not start it; if a Republican is elected, war with Iran is inevitable. What a disaster. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-support-a-war-with-iran/610795/82 "2012-01-28T19:23:46Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Like Fiendish Astronaut notes, it seems to me as an outsider that the U.S. is in the early stages of hyping itself up for war. I hope Obama’s re-elected if for no other reason than he might not start it; if a Republican is elected, war with Iran is inevitable. What a disaster. We must have been in the “early stages” for about [8 years now.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=280486) We are not going to war with Iran, and it doesn’t matter who is the president. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-support-a-war-with-iran/610795/83 "2012-01-28T19:38:29Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > We must have been in the “early stages” for about [8 years now.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=280486) I’m not referring to posts by people on the SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-support-a-war-with-iran/610795/84 "2012-01-28T20:01:48Z")
[QUOTE=RickJay] Like Fiendish Astronaut notes, it seems to me as an outsider that the U.S. is in the early stages of hyping itself up for war. I hope Obama’s re-elected if for no other reason than he might not start it; if a Republican is elected, war with Iran is inevitable. What a disaster. [/QUOTE] Still waiting for that inevitable trigger pull for the perennial war with Iran, huh? I hope you haven’t been holding your breath for it…it’s been a rather long wait so far, but like the folks who predict the end of the world, if you wait long enough it might happen. Let me ask you something here. You say the US has been hyping itself for war. Does that mean you think the US is behind the UN reports on the possibilities and indications of Iranian nuclear weapons programs? Or was that just a happy coincidence? Did we manage to infiltrate the Iranian government and make them threaten to close the straights and ramp things up, or, again, was that just a happy coincidence on our part? You seem to feel that this is a one sided thing, and that the US is responsible for the escalation of tensions in the attempt to ramp up for a war with Iran, so I’m curious how this all plays into that. -XT ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-support-a-war-with-iran/610795/85 "2012-01-28T20:04:08Z")
Despite all the blather from right-wing Israeli politicians, there is NO proof that Iran is building nuclear bombs. For all we know, this could be a gigantic bluff-the way Kruschev had America convinced that Soviet Russia had fleets of ICBMs capable of hitting the USA. Second: Iran has a puny little navy-one that would be on the bottom of the Persian Gulf within hours of a war with the US Navy. Is Iran arming itself? Yes, they have built missiles, and are extending the range of missiles they have. But to think that we should go to war with Iran is absolutely insane-it would turn out 1000 times worse than Iraq. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-support-a-war-with-iran/610795/86 "2012-01-28T20:06:59Z")
I guess I didn’t realize that right wing Israeli politicians controlled the UN and the IAEA. :eek: -XT ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-support-a-war-with-iran/610795/87 "2012-01-28T20:07:46Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I’m not referring to posts by people on the SDMB. I wasn’t either. That thread, and many others like it over the years, was started in response to something some journalist wrote on the subject. We’ve been hearing this for years, and it’s been wrong every time. At any rate, can you tell us what you were talking about? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-support-a-war-with-iran/610795/88 "2012-01-28T20:46:57Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Still waiting for that inevitable trigger pull for the perennial war with Iran, huh? I hope you haven’t been holding your breath for it…it’s been a rather long wait so far… Not for me. Yes, I know some people were babbling about it in 2003/2004. I disagreed at the time. I’m not BrainGlutton or Der Trihs. Very different names, shouldn’t be hard to tell apart. This reminds me of the old joke “I had a friend who wuold drink and drive all the time, and we all thought he’d get himself killed by the time he was 30. But we were completely wrong about him. He didn’t get himself killed until he was 32.” Just because someone was wrong about this in 2004 doesn’t mean it isn’t a legitimate concern now. > [@](#): > > You seem to feel that this is a one sided thing, and that the US is responsible for the escalation of tensions in the attempt to ramp up for a war with Iran, so I’m curious how this all plays into that. I didn’t say either of those things. I don’t like the Iranian regime either; wars are rarely one-sided. After all, it’s not like the U.S. invaded Iraq entirely at random; they didn’t just throw a dart at a map of the world and say “Iraq, Belgium, whatever.” ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-support-a-war-with-iran/610795/89 "2012-01-28T22:20:47Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Not for me. Yes, I know some people were babbling about it in 2003/2004. I disagreed at the time. I’m not BrainGlutton or Der Trihs. Very different names, shouldn’t be hard to tell apart. It wasn’t just 2004, **Rick**. It’s been brought up over and over again for years. Can you articulate why it is different now than all those other times? ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-support-a-war-with-iran/610795/90 "2012-01-28T22:22:24Z")
[QUOTE=RickJay] Not for me. Yes, I know some people were babbling about it in 2003/2004. I disagreed at the time. I’m not BrainGlutton or Der Trihs. Very different names, shouldn’t be hard to tell apart. [/QUOTE] I can tell you apart. 😉 The point though is that it’s the same old argument. It happens every time this comes up in the media. The US and Iran have been butting heads for years, through multiple administrations. Saying that if we happen to get a Republican in the Whitehouse this means certain war has about the same ring as those other posters insisting that GW was taking us to war with Iran any day now. Sure, it could happen. Iran could be foolish enough to actually try and close the straights, which would certainly trigger a ‘war’, consisting of the US and Europe bombing the crap out of their Navy and some missile and C&C and other military targets in Iran. But I highly doubt Iran will do any such thing, since most of this sabre rattling stuff is for internal consumption. The US isn’t going to just attack Iran, despite the fervent belief by DT and BG and others that it’s going to happen any time now, and will certainly happen if a Republican gets elected. > [@](#): > > This reminds me of the old joke “I had a friend who wuold drink and drive all the time, and we all thought he’d get himself killed by the time he was 30. But we were completely wrong about him. He didn’t get himself killed until he was 32.” Just because someone was wrong about this in 2004 doesn’t mean it isn’t a legitimate concern now. Sure, the same can be said about those folks who predict the end of the world, as I said. I mean, it has to happen some time after all. And when you are dealing with a government like Iran, you just never know…I THINK they are rational, within the logic of their own system, but that doesn’t mean they will always act rationally. As for our system, we could attack Iran’s nuclear infrastructure, but I think the probability of that is pretty low, even if a crazy Republican gets control of the Whitehouse, but it’s not beyond the realm of probability. If Iran keeps pushing on this nuclear weapons program they are purported to be working on then it certainly ups the chances that shots might be exchanged…especially if Iran continues to ratchet up the tensions when the US and Europe ratchet up the sanctions. Like I said, all this is easily solvable for Iran…stop trying to build nukes. If they aren’t building the things and have no such program, throw it all fully open to inspections by the UN. Hide nothing. Only someone like DT thinks that the US would still attack Iran if they were fully cooperating with the UN and fully open to all inspections. > [@](#): > > I didn’t say either of those things. I don’t like the Iranian regime either; wars are rarely one-sided. After all, it’s not like the U.S. invaded Iraq entirely at random; they didn’t just throw a dart at a map of the world and say “Iraq, Belgium, whatever.” You said we were slowly ramping ourselves up for war. That implies that WE are the ones ramping up for war. If you meant that war was slowly building as tensions increased then you would have said it that way. All I’ve seen lately is a UN/IAEA report indicating that Iran might still be working on a weaponized nuclear program, a series of sanctions from the US and others, and Iran making threats about possibly closing the straights to trade. IOW, it’s business as usual, with Iran as the ones controlling the level of heat by continuing to indicate to the UN that they are still building a nuclear weapons program. Out of curiosity, what SHOULD the US (and Europe, though they are hardly ever mentioned in these threads for some odd reason) do when reports like this latest one come out? Nothing? To me, sanctions seem the best way to make the disapproval of Iran’s actions conveyed without shots being fired. No? -XT ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-support-a-war-with-iran/610795/91 "2012-01-29T02:24:05Z")
> [@Katriona](#): > > I would only support going to war if they attacked us first. I would not support another BS “preemptive strike.” Then you won’t. Because all histrionics aside, that won’t happen. Fool me, you can’t get [**fooled again**](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A). Good on you, but it appears many of your compatriots haven’t learned much at all. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-support-a-war-with-iran/610795/92 "2012-01-29T03:01:20Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > there is NO proof that Iran is building nuclear bombs. I can’t say enough times how much more efficient it is to read facts than it is to imagine them. [ > [@](#): > > 1. The information indicates that Iran has carried out the following activities that are relevant to the development of a nuclear explosive device: > • Efforts, some successful, to procure nuclear related and dual use equipment and materials by > military related individuals and entities (Annex, Sections C.1 and C.2); > • Efforts to develop undeclared pathways for the production of nuclear material (Annex, Section C.3); > • The acquisition of nuclear weapons development information and documentation from a clandestine nuclear supply network (Annex, Section C.4); and > • Work on the development of an indigenous design of a nuclear weapon including the testing of components (Annex, Sections C.5–C.12). > 2. While some of the activities identified in the Annex have civilian as well as military applications, others are specific to nuclear weapons. > 3. The information indicates that prior to the end of 2003 the above activities took place under a structured programme. There are also indications that some activities relevant to the development of a nuclear explosive device continued after 2003, and that some may still be ongoing. > > […] > > C.4. Nuclear components for an explosive device > 31. For use in a nuclear device, HEU retrieved from the enrichment process is first converted to metal. The metal is then cast and machined into suitable components for a nuclear core. > 32. As indicated in paragraph 5 above, Iran has acknowledged that, along with the handwritten one page document offering assistance with the development of uranium centrifuge enrichment technology, in which reference is also made to a reconversion unit with casting equipment, Iran also received the uranium metal document which describes, inter alia, processes for the conversion of uranium compounds into uranium metal and the production of hemispherical enriched uranium metallic components. > 33. The uranium metal document is known to have been available to the clandestine nuclear supply network that provided Iran with assistance in developing its centrifuge enrichment capability, and is also known to be part of a larger package of information which includes elements of a nuclear explosive > design. A similar package of information, which surfaced in 2003, was provided by the same network to Libya. > 35 The information in the Libyan package, which was first reviewed by Agency experts in January 2004, included details on the design and construction of, and the manufacture of components for, a nuclear explosive device. > > […] > 35. In an interview in 2007 with a member of the clandestine nuclear supply network, the Agency was told that Iran had been provided with nuclear explosive design information. From information provided to the Agency during that interview, the Agency is concerned that Iran may have obtained more advanced > design information than the information identified in 2004 as having been provided to Libya by the nuclear supply network. > 36. Additionally, a Member State provided information indicating that, during the AMAD Plan, preparatory work, not involving nuclear material, for the fabrication of natural and high enriched uranium metal components for a nuclear explosive device was carried out. > 37. As the conversion of HEU compounds into metal and the fabrication of HEU metal components suitable in size and quality are steps in the development of an HEU nuclear explosive device, clarification by Iran is needed in connection with the above. > > C.5. Detonator development > 38. The development of safe, fast-acting detonators, and equipment suitable for firing the detonators, is an integral part of a programme to develop an implosion type nuclear device. Included among the alleged studies documentation are a number of documents relating to the development by Iran, during the period > 2002–2003, of fast functioning detonators, known as “exploding bridgewire detonators” or “EBWs” as safe alternatives to the type of detonator described for use in the nuclear device design referred to in paragraph 33 above. > 39. In 2008, Iran told the Agency that it had developed EBWs for civil and conventional military applications and had achieved a simultaneity of about one microsecond when firing two to three detonators together, 37 and provided the Agency with a copy of a paper relating to EBW development work presented by two Iranian researchers at a conference held in Iran in 2005. A similar paper was published by the two researchers at an international conference later in 2005.38 Both papers indicate that suitable high voltage firing equipment had been acquired or developed by Iran. Also in 2008, Iran told the Agency that, before the period 2002–2004, it had already achieved EBW technology. Iran also provided the Agency with a short undated document in Farsi, understood to be the specifications for a detonator development programme, and a document from a foreign source showing an example of a civilian application in which detonators are fired simultaneously. However, Iran has not explained to the Agency > its own need or application for such detonators. > 40. The Agency recognizes that there exist non-nuclear applications, albeit few, for detonators like EBWs, and of equipment suitable for firing multiple detonators with a high level of simultaneity. Notwithstanding, given their possible application in a nuclear explosive device, and the fact that there are limited civilian and conventional military applications for such technology, Iran’s development of such > detonators and equipment is a matter of concern, particularly in connection with the possible use of the multipoint initiation system referred to below. > […] > C.12. Fuzing, arming and firing system > 64. The alleged studies documentation indicates that, as part of the studies carried out by the engineering groups under Project 111 to integrate the new payload into the re-entry vehicle of the Shahab 3 missile, additional work was conducted on the development of a prototype firing system that would enable the payload to explode both in the air above a target, or upon impact of the re-entry vehicle with the ground. Iran was shown this information, which, in its 117 page submission (referred to above in paragraph 8), it dismissed as being “an animation game”. > 65. The Agency, in conjunction with experts from Member States other than those which had provided the information in question, carried out an assessment of the possible nature of the new payload. As a result of that assessment, it was concluded that any payload option other than nuclear which could also be > expected to have an airburst option (such as chemical weapons) could be ruled out. Iran was asked to comment on this assessment and agreed in the course of a meeting with the Agency which took place in Tehran in May 2008 that, if the information upon which it was based were true, it would constitute a programme for the development of a nuclear weapon. Attachment 2 to this Annex reproduces the results of the Agency’s assessment as it was presented by the Secretariat to the Member States in the technical briefing which took place in February 2008. ]([| IAEA](http://www.iaea.org/Publications/Documents/Board/2011/gov2011-65.pdf)) So, no evidence, lots of evidence. Could go either way. Probably best to just check you gut rather than, you know, the IAEA. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-support-a-war-with-iran/610795/93 "2012-01-29T07:04:10Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > I can’t say enough times how much more efficient it is to read facts than it is to imagine them. > > [url=[| IAEA](http://www.iaea.org/Publications/Documents/Board/2011/gov2011-65.pdf)] > > So, no evidence, lots of evidence. Could go either way. > Probably best to just check you gut rather than, you know, the IAEA. S "Some (developments) “may still be ongoing”. Yep-real hard proof that a nclear bomb is being developed. REAL hard proof! ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-support-a-war-with-iran/610795/94 "2012-01-29T07:12:55Z")
Your admission that you were absurdly wrong and your heartfelt regret about your bombast that there was “NO proof” in appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![David42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@David42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David42)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-support-a-war-with-iran/610795/95 "2012-01-29T08:03:57Z")
Only if we’re fighting for the moon. I’m tired of this nonsense of having to fight every imaginable threat to someone else’s security. In other words, NO. Emphatically and unequivocally. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-support-a-war-with-iran/610795/96 "2012-01-29T08:56:39Z")
I’m not in favor of a U.S. attack on Iran. It’s our fight, not yours. ---
**Author:** ![David42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@David42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David42)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-support-a-war-with-iran/610795/97 "2012-01-29T10:18:57Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I’m not in favor of a U.S. attack on Iran. It’s our fight, not yours. Your most persuasive argument has melted my heart. I will now support a war on Iran if Bricker promises to be their chief general, Harold Flaigle is appointed Ayatollah, and jurisdiction doesn’t matter. In that case, I wanna ride the nuke warhead like…that one movie, what was that? ---
**Author:** ![David42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@David42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David42)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-support-a-war-with-iran/610795/98 "2012-01-29T10:29:41Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > I can’t say enough times how much more efficient it is to read facts than it is to imagine them. > > [url=[| IAEA](http://www.iaea.org/Publications/Documents/Board/2011/gov2011-65.pdf)] > > So, no evidence, lots of evidence. Could go either way. > Probably best to just check you gut rather than, you know, the IAEA. Your evidence is in legalspeak. Translated into a lot of maybes or could be’s but ya really can’t say. For thinking people. Even so, Iranians have no lesser right to nuclear weapons than anyone else. When the “powers that be” give theirs up, and talk about how rogue they are, etc. with all due rhetoric applied then I’ll argue Iran can’t have one either. As it is, I take a “Free Speech” approach to nukes. I got one, you got one, heck what a deal to shout about, let’s argue. Shut up. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-support-a-war-with-iran/610795/99 "2012-01-29T12:26:23Z")
> [@David42](#): > > Your most persuasive argument has melted my heart. I will now support a war on Iran if Bricker promises to be their chief general, Harold Flaigle is appointed Ayatollah, and jurisdiction doesn’t matter. In that case, I wanna ride the nuke warhead like…that one movie, what was that? I have no idea what this means. ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-support-a-war-with-iran/610795/100 "2012-01-29T12:39:50Z")
> [@David42](#): > > Even so, Iranians have no lesser right to nuclear weapons than anyone else. When the “powers that be” give theirs up, and talk about how rogue they are, etc. with all due rhetoric applied then I’ll argue Iran can’t have one either. > > As it is, I take a “Free Speech” approach to nukes. I got one, you got one, heck what a deal to shout about, let’s argue. Shut up. I’ve seen this and many other similar views a lot. i.e. ‘why can’t any state have nuclear weapons if it wants, what’s it to us?’ (hopefully that doesn’t misrepresent your position David, if it does I’ve misunderstood and I’m sorry). But let me put this to you and everyone else who believes that any state has the right to arm itself with whatever weapons it chooses: Let’s say a state begin to openly develop nuclear weapons, whilst openly saying “as soon as our weapons are ready, we’ll be dropping them on x country to wipe out their cities.” How would you feel then? I know it’s an unlikely scenario because that country would be inviting pre-emptive action upon itself, but just as a thought experiment it’s worth considering. Because I very much doubt many people would continue to hold their nukes for any state that wants them view in these circumstances. And if that’s the case then wouldn’t it be logical to say that we agree there is a line at which point action should be taken? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-support-a-war-with-iran/610795.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-support-a-war-with-iran/610795.md?page=6)