# Would you vote for Donald Trump for POTUS? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 17, 2015, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054 "2015-08-17T06:08:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/201 "2015-08-19T21:18:58Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > To get back to the OP, it seems more and more people would likely vote for Donald Trump the more that time goes by. According to a new CNN/ORC poll, Trump’s approval rating among Republicans and Republican-leaning independents in almost 80% and he’s pulled within 6 percentage points of Hillary Clinton in polling for the general election. > > [Cite](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/251425-poll-trump-closing-in-on-clinton) Proving once again that Republicans are stupid assholes. Thanks for that report from the front line. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/202 "2015-08-19T21:24:54Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I’m not sure that, “I get a lot of PMs from people who are afraid to be associated with me in public,” is all that great a defense. You think it’s a commentary on me. I say it’s a commentary on the boards. A climate, which, for both good and ill, you’ve had a good hand in crafting. Also, some people just don’t have the time to run the gauntlet of leftist posters. I don’t have as much time as I used to myself. Sometimes I’m about to comment on something, foresee what will follow, and say, “fuck it.” Other time I have that inclination but I don’t feel it’s right of me to deprive that leftist douchebags of a taste of reality. I’m like a public service that way. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/203 "2015-08-19T21:28:15Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Oh, bullshit. I chose that word because I thought I’d restrain my impulse to descend into profanity. > > But have it your way, you idiot. Please consider posts 157 and 183 as withdrawn and inoperative. I shall begin again: > > Happy? Kumbaya. Now doesn’t it feel good to convey how you feel in an honest fashion? That’s what that new feeling is that is washing over you. Either that to the sprouting of that spine. Either way, I’m happy for you. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/204 "2015-08-19T21:29:53Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > You think it’s a commentary on me. I say it’s a commentary on the boards. A climate, which, for both good and ill, you’ve had a good hand in crafting. > > Also, some people just don’t have the time to run the gauntlet of leftist posters. I don’t have as much time as I used to myself. Sometimes I’m about to comment on something, foresee what will follow, and say, “fuck it.” > > Other time I have that inclination but I don’t feel it’s right of me to deprive that leftist douchebags of a taste of reality. I’m like a public service that way. 😉 You’re a delusional imbecile, whose entire world-view is predicated on nonsense misinformation spoon feed to you by people who think you’re an idiot, so they can have your vote. The only use you serve here is a cautionary tale of what someone acts like when they’re on the road to becoming Clothahump. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/205 "2015-08-19T21:34:27Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > You’re a delusional imbecile, whose entire world-view is predicated on nonsense misinformation spoon feed to you by people who think you’re an idiot, so they can have your vote. > > The only use you serve here is a cautionary tale of what someone acts like when they’re on the road to becoming Clothahump. Oh, Chucklehead, you’re the bestest. The bestest at being pathetically predictable. I can always count on your posts containing two things: a gratuitous ad hominem and something you think is smart but misses by a mere parsec. Keep up the good work. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/206 "2015-08-19T21:40:15Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Oh, Chucklehead, you’re the bestest. The bestest at being pathetically predictable. I can always count on your posts containing two things: a gratuitous ad hominem and something you think is smart but misses by a mere parsec. Keep up the good work. Another click on the Clothahump scale. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/207 "2015-08-19T21:46:15Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Proving once again that Republicans are stupid assholes. > > Thanks for that report from the front line. But, but, I thought Trump was teh stoopit! That he was an idiot! That he had no chance! That he was the chief clown driving the crazy clowns in the crazy clown car and his support would stall at the the twenty percent that teh loony tea partiers supposedly accounted for…if he was even serious about running, which he wasn’t because he only wanted publicity (and as we all know, if there’s anything Donald Trump needs, it’s publicity :rolleyes:). Looks to me like the stupid assholes were the ones making these claims in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/208 "2015-08-19T21:48:53Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > But, but, I thought Trump was teh stoopit! That he was an idiot! That he had no chance! That he was the chief clown driving the crazy clowns in the crazy clown car and his support would stall at the the twenty percent that teh loony tea partiers supposedly accounted for…if he was even serious about running, which he wasn’t because he only wanted publicity (and as we all know, if there’s anything Donald Trump needs, it’s publicity :rolleyes:). > > Looks to me like the stupid assholes were the ones making these claims in the first place. I think you did not pay attention, many Democrats are glad that Trump is ahead among the Republicans now. Carry on. Edit to add: Oh, and just one more thing, I was forgetting something; You also missed that a lot of the ones reporting in this thread that they would not vote for Trump are Republicans, glad to see the extremists and the moderates tearing themselves apart. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/209 "2015-08-19T22:03:17Z")
Does one take an actual road to reach Clothahump’s current position? I’d’ve though one would follow the meandering trail of stomped poison ivy, clumsily-dislodged beehives and drunkenly-crawled-through anthills. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/210 "2015-08-19T22:04:11Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > But, but, I thought Trump was teh stoopit! That he was an idiot! That he had no chance! That he was the chief clown driving the crazy clowns in the crazy clown car and his support would stall at the the twenty percent that teh loony tea partiers supposedly accounted for…if he was even serious about running, which he wasn’t because he only wanted publicity (and as we all know, if there’s anything Donald Trump needs, it’s publicity :rolleyes:). > > Looks to me like the stupid assholes were the ones making these claims in the first place. Being stupid and a clown doesn’t mean you can’t be elected, when the GOP is made of angry idiots like you, magellan, clothahump, and magiver. When nearly half the voters are idiots like you guys, voting an idiot into office is a real possibility. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/211 "2015-08-19T22:17:01Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I think you did not pay attention, many Democrats are glad that Trump is ahead among the Republicans now. Yeah, and they’ll continue to be glad until it starts to look like he may very well win the White House. Even now though, their glee is beginning to sound like whistling in the dark. > [@GIGObuster](#): > > Carry on. I shall. > [@GIGObuster](#): > > Edit to add: Oh, and just one more thing, I was forgetting something; You also missed that a lot of the ones reporting in this thread that they would not vote for Trump are Republicans, glad to see the extremists and the moderates tearing themselves apart. Yes, I’m aware that some of the conservatives on the board are disdainful of Mr. Trump. A couple of them especially are people I have a lot of respect for. I’m also proud of the fact that we’re independent thinkers who don’t feel compelled to follow the party line no matter what, and therefore we sometimes find ourselves at odds with one another. It’s my hope and my belief that as time goes by and Trump’s positions become more nuanced and specific, and as time allows for people to learn what he’s really like and how to separate the wheat from the chaff in the way he expresses himself, they may come to change their minds about him. If not, then I plead de gustibus. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/212 "2015-08-19T22:20:08Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Yes, I’m aware that some of the conservatives on the board are disdainful of Mr. Trump. A couple of them especially are people I have a lot of respect for. I’m also proud of the fact that we’re independent thinkers who don’t feel compelled to follow the party line no matter what, and therefore we sometimes find ourselves at odds with one another. > > It’s my hope and my belief that as time goes by and Trump’s positions become more nuanced and specific, and as time allows for people to learn what he’s really like and how to separate the wheat from the chaff in the way he expresses himself, they may come to change their minds about him. If not, then I plead de gustibus. Now \*\*that \*\*is whistling in the dark. Yeah, never mind that the GOP is more likely to head to a disaster if Trump is the nominee. Too bad that even with what you pointed at it is not likely to happen, but it is possible, fingers crossed… ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/213 "2015-08-19T22:23:27Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > … > > It’s my hope and my belief that as time goes by and Trump’s positions become more nuanced and specific,… You mean, he admits being a racist prick? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/214 "2015-08-19T22:29:00Z")
In a real world sense, Trump has said nothing that’s racist. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/215 "2015-08-19T22:53:58Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > And it might interest you to know that I get PMs complimenting me. People, some of whom you’d recognize, support me—and my views—but just don’t want to put themselves in the line of fire. But you tell me that you and Lobohan and a bunch other of the more prolific asses, don’t like me and I’m supposed to somehow feel bad. Maybe in your fucked up world that’s how it works, but not in mine. Oh God, how old is THAT argument? “Yeah, people are backing me up secretly through PMs/e-mail!!!” :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/216 "2015-08-19T23:35:56Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > In a real world sense, Trump has said nothing that’s racist. Entire _nations_ would disagree with that statement. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/217 "2015-08-19T23:37:01Z")
> [@andros](#): > > The operative term, as well you know, was “just.” As in “merely.” As in “You are merely tolerated. Not liked.” No, I’m “merely tolerated.” **magellan01** is “actively disliked.” ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/218 "2015-08-19T23:37:32Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > In a real world sense, Trump has said nothing that’s racist. One can argue that, but Trump seems to be getting his information from very unsavoury places. One of the sources was Ann Coulter (No, that is not the unsavoury source, but that could qualify 🙂 ) from a report of the now defunct and imploded Bear Stearns. However, many other studies showed that that was not correct and one can see how bad with numbers Bear Stearns was. It would had been a good clue for investors, but alas. Now, why has this festered in the very conservative echo chamber? Because Nativist places like V-Dare and other more racist ones continue to harp on that discredited report with very clear intentions, to scare people into supporting nativists like Trump. > **[Donald Trump wrongly says the number of illegal immigrants is 30 million or...](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2015/jul/28/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-number-illegal-immigrants-30-mil/)** > > The day after Donald Trump visited the border in Laredo, Texas, he was armed with some fresh claims about illegal immigr > [@](#): > > Trump said the number of illegal immigrants in the United States is “30 million, it could be 34 million.” > > The Department of Homeland Security says the number of illegal immigrants was about 11.4 million as of January 2012. Other independent groups that research illegal immigration put the number between 11 and 12 million. We found no compelling evidence that the number could as high as Trump said. > > Trump has provided no proof that the number of illegal immigrants is triple the widespread consensus. We rate this claim Pants on Fire. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/219 "2015-08-20T00:03:34Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > No, I’m “merely tolerated.” **magellan01** is “actively disliked.” Fair enough. I think **Lobohan** was originally shooting for wry understatement. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/220 "2015-08-20T00:08:22Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Yeah, and they’ll continue to be glad until it starts to look like he may very well win the White House. Even now though, their glee is beginning to sound like whistling in the dark. > … > It’s my hope and my belief that as time goes by and Trump’s positions become more nuanced and specific, and as time allows for people to learn what he’s really like and how to separate the wheat from the chaff in the way he expresses himself, they may come to change their minds about him. If not, then I plead de gustibus. Gustibus, schmustibus. I know quite well the shitty taste many Americans have. Nevertheless, **The Donald will never be the Republican nominee, let alone POTUS.** And I have a c-note for the charity of your choice that is happy to go where my mouth is. Whatcha say, **SA**? Willing to risk giving a hunnert to one of my charities? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054.md?page=12)