# Would you vote for Donald Trump for POTUS? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 17, 2015, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054 "2015-08-17T06:08:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/321 "2015-08-24T22:10:16Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Tell it to Imus, it was his hypothetical. Which you heartily approved of, along with the answer “Who gives a shit?” ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/322 "2015-08-24T22:14:09Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Oh, The Donald promised the tea partiers they WILL get 270 extra electoral votes. He’ll explain how, you know, soon. The same way he’ll get Mexico to pay for the border wall, I guess. “'Cause I’m The Donald! All shall love me and despair!” ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/323 "2015-08-24T22:43:15Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > The same way he’ll get Mexico to pay for the border wall, I guess. “'Cause I’m The Donald! All shall love me and despair!” Extra points for channeling Galadriel. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/324 "2015-08-25T01:48:25Z")
> [@russian\_heel](#): > > I was in Canada this week and told them that while no American will admit to wanting to vote for Trump, he is saying what most of us secretly agree with. 😃 Try that in Mexico! ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/325 "2015-08-25T12:46:10Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > Even I think/believe you’re a troll and I’m a mod…so, what now? You tell me—what now? Maybe you’ll go look up the word troll and come back and admit your mistake? Maybe change your user name to Idle Brain, since you don’t seen to be engaging it? Something else? Oh, and I can’t tell you how very impressed I am that your a mod. I mean, your post would have been of run of the mill dumbfuckness if coming from one of the hoi polo, but your mod title that you puff out your chest about, does elevate it a level or two. > [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > Either you’re literally delusional in how many posters on here you THINK think of you as a troll or you’re just lying to yourself/acting like it isn’t really the case. > > ETA: Okay, maybe “troll” is too harsh of a term. There’s a chance you may not be, I fully admit. You could just be a huge, ignorant, racist asshat. But you’re one of those two things, definitely. Ha! Looks like you went and looked up the word “troll” after all. So you find another insult to misapply to me, one that is equally inappropriate. Funny stuff. Of course, you are free to substantiate this claim of “racist”. As far as “asshat”, I think that term more accurately applies to a mod that injects himself into a conversation to call a poster a troll when the term doesn’t apply. Ditto with the “racist”. Stellar behavior, Mr. Mod. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/326 "2015-08-25T13:17:06Z")
I hadn’t noted any particular racism in magellan. Bigoted asshattery, he has in surplus. I’m not sure “troll” applies. He’s trying to antagonize people he perceives as liberal, not just throwing out crap in hopes of catching some random reaction. This is much of a defense of him as I can muster. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/327 "2015-08-25T14:24:52Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I’m not sure “troll” applies. He’s trying to antagonize people he perceives as liberal, not just throwing out crap in hopes of catching some random reaction. Just because a troll is focusing on a group (especially a group that makes up a majority of the membership), doesn’t make it less of a troll. There are plenty of conservatives here that don’t debate in good faith, they just think it is fun to get the liberals going. That is pretty much the definition of a troll. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/328 "2015-08-25T15:33:05Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > hoi polo Are these members of the hoi polloi who wear polo shirts, or those who play polo? ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/329 "2015-08-25T15:43:33Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Trump is more than capable not only of learning it but that he’d likely handle whatever was going on better than pretty much anyone else. So he’d be better at looking it up on Wikipedia than anyone else? Yes, that is a fine quality for President! Though “handle it better than pretty much anyone else” seems…questionable. Can you show where he’s had relevant experience? ---
**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/330 "2015-08-25T15:47:45Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > I’m already sick of the alternative, and it’s only August. And we still have to get to…and then through…one more August before the actual election. Now I’m depressed. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/331 "2015-08-25T15:52:27Z")
Anyone want to search the posting histories of Trump supporters to see if they ever said Obama lacked the necessary experience to be president? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/332 "2015-08-25T16:07:27Z")
> [@Katriona](#): > > And we still have to get to…and then through…one more August before the actual election. > > Now I’m depressed. You need to be more optimistic, I can see the markets and this taking people down, To kill those two woes with one stone invest in Popcorn and lawn chairs, you will help the economy. 🙂 More seriously read [538](http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trumps-six-stages-of-doom/)more, Trump is getting now (as we can see in this thread and others) the support of the low information voters \* that many times do not show up when the election comes. - I have seen a few researchers and pundits call those voters \*\*misinformation voters \*\* also. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/333 "2015-08-25T16:13:26Z")
…And Mr. Trump takes time out of his busy campaign schedule to take an utterly gratuitous swipe at Megyn Kelly, presumably because of the mean question she asked him at the first Republican debate: > **[Donald Trump's new Twitter tirade against Megyn Kelly | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/25/politics/donald-trump-megyn-kelly-tweets/index.html)** > > Donald Trump is at it again. Jeepers, that was weeks ago; talk about thin-skinned. Can’t wait for the inevitable dismissal from his resident SDMB apologist. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/334 "2015-08-25T16:29:41Z")
She should go on Jimmy Kimmel and read the tweets in his mean tweets segment. ---
**Author:** ![hopesperson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e95f7d/32.png) [@hopesperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hopesperson)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/335 "2015-08-25T16:42:07Z")
If he’s good enough for David Duke, he’s good enough for me. [http://mashable.com/2015/08/25/donald-trump-kkk/](http://mashable.com/2015/08/25/donald-trump-kkk/) ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/336 "2015-08-25T18:02:22Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Are these members of the hoi polloi who wear polo shirts, or those who play polo? 😉 Same thing. Doesn’t everyone play polo? ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/337 "2015-08-25T18:27:53Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > your a mod You found my “a mod”? Thank you, I was looking all over for it. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/338 "2015-08-25T18:29:19Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > 😉 > > Same thing. Doesn’t everyone play polo? Does hitting rats with a hockey stick count? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/339 "2015-08-25T18:54:54Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Does hitting rats with a hockey stick count? That’s just rat pucky. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/340 "2015-08-25T19:03:56Z")
Anyway, back again to dispute anyone who wouldn’t think Magellan is an outright racist. I once followed a Pit topic along in which, as it continued, Magellan proved more and more that he was downright, without a doubt, 100 percent, disgustingly, mind blowingly racist. I’m sure Magellan, when he replies to this post, will try to spin it to be not as it looks and throw it back on me (much like he did to my earlier post in here), but I think the cites will speak for themselves. So anyway, back in [THIS thread,](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=727813) Magellan made some of the most putrid posts I’ve ever seen from a poster. I didn’t say anything at the time, I just observed and stored the stuff in my file banks. That thread is quite long, however, so allow me to make it easier for the reader of this post to see specific quotations from him from that thread. [Here is where it begins.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17527801&postcount=117) Follow along with me, if you will, as I will try to simplify the posts from “Racist Magellanise” In that post, the last paragraph is: > [@](#): > > The question is about science and race. Can their be scientific discussions about race (racial" that are not racist? I say “yes”. Look at medicine. If you believe “no”, then you’re just shutting down discussion because of a potential finding that may be uncomfortable for one group. Let me tell you what you’re about to see. As these posts go on, Magellan is going to try to make the point that (as simply as I can put it) “TO POINT OUT THAT BLACK PEOPLES’ BRAINS ARE FACTUALLY SMALLER THAN WHITES AND THAT BLACK PEOPLE ARE FACTUALLY MORE STUPID THAN WHITES, that it’s–instead–“FACT” and “SCIENCE” to have these beliefs and point them out…and NOT RACIST at all”. Of course, he won’t put it like that straightforwardly, but anyone with half a brain will see that’s what he’s meaning. So we continue… [Next](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17527854&postcount=122) > [@](#): > > You’re saying that it would be okay to study the relationship between Race X, Y and Z and intelligence, but if the findings show that Race Y is more intelligent than Race Z, haring those findings and stating so is racist. From Magellanise: “So you’re saying it would be okay to study how smart blacks and whites are, but if the study shows that whites are smarter than blacks, it would be racist to say it?” [Next](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17527871&postcount=123) > [@](#): > > You’re equating beliefs with scientific findings. I’d agree that the former is the stuff of racism (racist), the latter, as long as the studies are good science, merely racial. From Magellanise: “As long as science shows that whites are factually smarter than blacks, it’s not racist of me to say so.” [Next](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17527897&postcount=126) > [@](#): > > This does not change the fact that, according to your post I commented on, it would be racist to merely reveal valid scientific findings. That’s nuts. > > Is it also racist to for an anatomy book to point out that Asians lack epicanthic folds of the eye? Or that the skin of Whites has less melanin than other races? From Magellanise: “Is it also racist to say that Asians have slantier eyes than whites? No? Well then it wouldn’t be racist to say whites are smarter than blacks if a study showed it!” [Oops, forgot this gem](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17527801&postcount=117) > [@](#): > > First of all, just to be clear, that is not something I’ve said nor a notion I believe, and have stated so. The question is if one can have a clinical discussion about race, or race + skin color/hair texture/eye shape/nose shape/intelligence or anything else without it being racist. One race may be more intelligent than another. Or they may not. I don’t know. But if someone wants to look at it, that doesn’t make them a racist. If such a study were done and was found to be reliable and blacks came out on top, do you really think that such a discussion would be labeled as racist? From Magellanise: “I’m not racist…no, definitely NOT racist… I don’t know if one race is smarter than the other or not. How would I know? I’m not a scientist… not some RACIST scientist, because we all know I’m not racist. Heaven’s no. Not a racist bone in my body. I’m just saying that IF… KEYWORD IF…IF SOMEONE (not me, because I’m not racist) DID want to run a study to see if blacks were smarter than whites (based on their own theories that they probably WERE or MIGHT BE) that would definitely not be racist, much like I am not. Oh, and did I make sure to mention I’m not racist even though I’m proposing someone should TEST THESE DAMN BLACKS ALREADY to see if they’re less smart than us??” I could go on, but you get the point. Let’s fast forward a bit. Magellan keeps going on in that topic about it until we come to the best gem of them all, what I’d call the climax of the whole convo and showing of his true nature. [It starts with this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17528067&postcount=149) > [@](#): > > How about if the note said, “it appears that blacks are inherently genetically less intelligent”? Meaning that the research he’s looked at so far in his study seems to indicate that to be the case. In the end, the full research will either support that or nullify it. Still racist? From Magellanise: “So let’s say a study like that WAS carried out and it WAS found that blacks are more stupid than whites, would it be racist to say those results?.. JUST REMEMBER THAT I’M NOT SAYING SUCH A THING IS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE I’M NOT RACIST. I’m just…yanno…throwing that hypothetical out there…a durr hurr.” Yeah. Uh huh. Magellan,…who the hell do you think you are fooling? You are unbelievably, surely, totally, completely, extremely, absolutely, undeniably _ **racist** _. And no matter how you try to word it or spin it or manipulate it or explain it, it’s clear to anyone reading those posts that you OBVIOUSLY THINK that if a study was done to measure white and black intelligence, that it would be proven that whites are factually smarter. THAT IS A RACIST thing to think and believe and say…and don’t even bother trying to deny that’s what you meant because I’m not even going to be replying to you again after I make this post. You can have the last, winning, possibly racist word if you want. I’ll let you have it. Asshat. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054.md?page=18)