# Would you vote for Donald Trump for POTUS? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 17, 2015, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054 "2015-08-17T06:08:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/21 "2015-08-17T11:51:24Z")
> [@contradancer](#): > > … > > I am from California and white people are now in the minority there. … Even if it is true, so what? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/22 "2015-08-17T12:22:12Z")
It might be a good soundbite–and Trump obviously thinks it is–to cry “No more birthright citizenship” but that’s never going to happen. It will take an amendment to the constitution. Trump and his fellow [del]bigots[/del] rabble rousers just don’t have the pull to make that happen. Next is the issue of illegal immigrants (aka undocumented aliens). Again, Trump and his base don’t have the pull to make that happen. The workers aren’t coming across the border because there’s a lack of jobs for them. The businesses that rely on undocumented aliens will certainly not be supporting Trump and his ilk. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/23 "2015-08-17T12:30:48Z")
> [@contradancer](#): > > In Arizona, the areas they lived in were trashed and the Walmart there was trashed. I’ve been to several WalMarts. Trashed? They ain’t Saks to begin with.:dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/24 "2015-08-17T12:32:48Z")
> [@contradancer](#): > > I lived in Arizona and had a lot of contact with illegals (hiring them and observing where they live and doing taxes for them) and my ex-daughter in law came here on a visa, overstayed, married my son, and became a citizen (and I knew her family of course). So, you’re saying you personally broke the law in regards to hiring aliens? Seems to me that you’re one of the people that Trump should be going after instead of the poor sods coming here out of desperation. > [@](#): > > My son’s best friend was born here but his large family has spent the past many years getting his family, distant relatives, and friends into the U.S. and circumventing the rules. How are they circumventing the rules? If they’re availing themselves of the various legal methods of immigrating, then they’re actually following the rules. > [@](#): > > I am from California and white people are now in the minority there. I’ve spent many years in California (hint: my username is a short form of a wonderful town there), I’m white, and that doesn’t bother me in the least. > [@](#): > > Illegals have brought back diseases we thought were gone to the state. Got any proof of this? I seem to recall that some “homegrown” stupidity, aka anti-vaxers, have been doing a fair job of that. > [@](#): > > Illegals have overburdened the welfare system Stats? > [@](#): > > and in my own personal experience, kept the children of citizens from getting a good education because teachers have to deal with so many non-English speaking students. Cite? > [@](#): > > they come from a different culture where women are not respected, and where they resort to violence to solve problems. If their women cheat they kill them and any children they have. What? > [@](#): > > In Arizona, the areas they lived in were trashed and the Walmart there was trashed. They don’t feel individually responsible for their surroundings. I saw this when I live in Lithuania. It comes from an oppressive government. The groups to support them encourage them to have lots of babies so they can take over in numbers. Are any of your brushes narrow? > [@](#): > > I want all of them out. Along with their children. If any aliens want to come into our country they have to follow the rules. Canada does it. Why can’t we? They don’t tolerate even people we would let in legally if they can’t contribute. I can see Canada from my back deck so I’m familiar with their immigration policy. I don’t even qualify because I’m retired. > > I don’t want to let the ones that are here stay here. They have to go back or the millions we have now will be quadrupled in only a few years and we will be Mexico. They have already infiltrated the upper echelons of our government and now dictate policy by calling us racists and accusing us of being inhumane. Guilting us into giving our country away. > > The fact that I even feel guilty for saying this shows how successful they have been in pushing their agenda. Many, many years ago my ex-daughter in law came home from her job, a place where she taught English, and said that people came in and they had a big meeting outlining their agenda for taking over CA by numbers. I thought it was ridiculous. Now they have done it. > > So, that is how I really feel and I’m glad someone is finally saying it and if Trump can really do this, I will vote for him. Good Lord, that’s a load. And it’s not a nice one. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/25 "2015-08-17T12:33:41Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Ahh! The Sarah Palin method of international knowledge. You are a liar. > [@](#): > > 1. A nation without borders is not a nation. There must be a wall across the southern border. > > 2. A nation without laws is not a nation. Laws passed in accordance with our Constitutional system of government must be enforced. > > 3. A nation that does not serve its own citizens is not a nation. Any immigration plan must improve jobs, wages and security for all Americans. All true. Therefore I wouldn’t vote for Trump if he were running unopposed, since he has no clue about how to bring the above to pass, nor any chance to do it. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/26 "2015-08-17T12:42:35Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Yet you want to kidnap American citizens and deport them to a country they have never lived in? The OP probably masturbates while reading Executive Order 9066. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/27 "2015-08-17T12:43:15Z")
> [@](#): > > 1. A nation without borders is not a nation. There must be a wall across the southern border. > > 2. A nation without laws is not a nation. Laws passed in accordance with our Constitutional system of government must be enforced. > > 3. A nation that does not serve its own citizens is not a nation. Any immigration plan must improve jobs, wages and security for all Americans. Borders do not imply a wall. The Canadian border lacks a wall, is it not a border? Across the EU there pretty much is free movement, are they not nations? As a practical manner, no nation can enforce every single law. There may be a law against spitting on the sidewalk, but enforcing it would be ridiculous. Because of logistics and/or humanitarian concerns, we cannot enforce every law to the letter. A nation cannot pretend it exists in a vacuum. The welfare of all humanity needs to be considered. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/28 "2015-08-17T12:43:19Z")
Too bad Trump is wrong on all three points. The only time I would cast a vote for Trump is if there was an referendum to cast people into the sun. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/29 "2015-08-17T12:52:43Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > A nation cannot pretend it exists in a vacuum. The welfare of all humanity needs to be considered. And it can be considered by a rational and properly enforced immigration policy that serves the needs of the people of both countries. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/30 "2015-08-17T12:55:30Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > And it can be considered by a rational and properly enforced immigration policy that serves the needs of the people of both countries. Which is one country more than what Trump supporters consider serving. ---
**Author:** ![inscrutable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a88e4f/32.png) [@inscrutable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inscrutable)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/31 "2015-08-17T13:02:14Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Even if it is true, so what? That’s the $9.99 (price rollback) question… ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/32 "2015-08-17T13:02:27Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Which is one country more than what Trump supporters consider serving. This is simply incorrect. Trump and his supporters all favor legal immigration (as far as I can tell, as I’ve heard none of his supporters say otherwise). Trump has spoken freely of having a large door in his wall for the express purpose of allowing immigrants to enter lawfully. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/33 "2015-08-17T13:04:38Z")
I have reasonable confidence that Americans on the whole are not stupid enough to elect a dilettante blowhard. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/34 "2015-08-17T13:09:50Z")
Stupid is as stupid does. I’ll thank you not to cast aspersions on our stupidity from your frosty Canadian ivory tower. > [@contradancer](#): > > So, that is how I really feel and I’m glad someone is finally saying it and if Trump can really do this, I will vote for him. Part of the US citizenship test is basic constitutional law. If you’d had to take it, you would know that the president - whoever he may be - cannot overturn a constitutional amendment by fiat. He can’t even propose an amendment directly. So since Trump can’t do it, who will you be voting for? ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/35 "2015-08-17T13:13:52Z")
Good God, I thought I’d stumbled into Stormfront this morning. > [@contradancer](#): > > Since you have said that you are in my country illegally, here is your chance to tell your side of the story. Why are you here? Why do you stay? You aren’t wanted but I think some of the groups formed to keep you here have convinced you that you are somehow wanted. You are not. If you came here legally, then I would welcome you with open arms. _Your_ country? **XT** isn’t wanted here? By who? You? Well, Mr. / Ms. Racist, you don’t speak for me, nor probably most folks on this board. Why did you post this here? Was your favorite sub-reddit down for maintainance? No /r/brownpeoplesuckandruinmylife for you today? ---
**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/36 "2015-08-17T13:20:18Z")
I can’t think of anything that could induce me to vote for Big Don. And, personally, I expect him to drop out of this race long before the election, or even the convention. He’s an attention whore and when he gets bored, he’ll leave till the next time he decided to open his pie hole. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/37 "2015-08-17T13:23:33Z")
> [@contradancer](#): > > …I guess when English is your second language your comprehension is a little lacking. > > … My son’s best friend was born here but his large family over many years has managed to circumnavigate the law … Unless his large family are global explorers in the spirit of Magellan, perhaps what they managed to do is _circumvent_ the law. But perhaps English is your second language. > [@contradancer](#): > > I’m just relating what I have seen. No crime in that. Actually hate speech **is** a crime in many jurisdictions. > [@bobot](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > I am from California and white people are now in the minority there. … > > Even if it is true, so what? Whaddaya mean “so what”? Didn’t you read the OP by the distinguished supporter of Herr Trump? Because the inferior races bring disease and they trash everything. They’re no better than Jews. Das Herrenvolk must not be outnumbered! We must prevail über alles in der Welt! Sieg heil! > [@BobLibDem](#): > > Borders do not imply a wall. The Canadian border lacks a wall, is it not a border? Definitely not enough of one if Trump is elected to anything. But in that event I’m sure there must be a way for Canadians to build a giant wall, but get The Donald to pay for it. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/38 "2015-08-17T13:25:58Z")
Nm… ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/39 "2015-08-17T13:40:09Z")
Trump Jong-Il and Donald Kim, I get the two confused all the time. Which one has the funny hair? ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/40 "2015-08-17T14:04:11Z")
> [@contradancer](#): > > I lived in Arizona and had a lot of contact with illegals (hiring them and observing where they live and doing taxes for them) You total Jackass … did you pay them $1 an hour … did you force the eight-year-olds to [pick your crappy crops as well] … how the hell did you afford the goddamned cardboard for their housing … did you beat them as well … when the work was done, did you call _la megra_ … TAXES, you moron, illegals don’t pay taxes, you fucking pocketed the money didn’t you. You belong in prison … > [@contradancer](#): > > I can see Canada from my back deck so I’m familiar with their immigration policy. I don’t even qualify because I’m retired. You poor bastard, so close yet you’ve not the balls to cross. Too much of a coward to give up your welfare checks? When you die and go to hell, please tell George III all about these problems, I’m sure he could use a good laugh about now. God I hope Hillary will go menstrual all over people like you. * * * If you’re not a black homosexual working-class single mother … you’re a pig, a chauvinistic PIG !!! (I learned that in California BTW). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054.md?page=3)