# Would you vote for Donald Trump for POTUS?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 17, 2015, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054 "2015-08-17T06:08:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![akennett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee59a6/32.png) [@akennett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/akennett)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/41 "2015-08-17T14:04:14Z")

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While the racist crap spewed by the OP makes me not want to admit it, I’d consider voting for Trump. It would mean 4 years of comedy gold.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/42 "2015-08-17T14:05:04Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Trump Jong-Il and Donald Kim, I get the two confused all the time. Which one has the funny hair?

That would be the North Korean one. The Donald doesn’t have hair – or at least, no one has ever seen it because of his distinguished habit of always wearing the pelt of some unidentified deceased creature on his head. Most zoologists believe [it’s this one](http://goodnature.nathab.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/GLT.jpg), with whom The Donald has a natural affinity.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/43 "2015-08-17T14:08:45Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Trump Jong-Il and Donald Kim, I get the two confused all the time. Which one has the funny hair?

Both, but only one will get you shot then placed in a camp for the rest of your life for pointing it out.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/44 "2015-08-17T14:11:13Z")

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> [@contradancer](#):
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> It’s a little scary but today when I read Mr. Trump’s illegal immigration policy he addressed two of my concerns: forcing people who are here illegally to go back to their home countries and nullifying the right to be a citizen just because you are born here.
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> I think I’m a compassionate person but maybe not.

Not.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/45 "2015-08-17T14:13:26Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> [Jus soli](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli) is pretty much the norm in the western hemisphere.

Did you read the article you’re quoting? Here is a quote from one of its sources:

“Of advanced economies, Canada and the United States are the only countries that grant automatic citizenship to children born to illegal aliens.”

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/46 "2015-08-17T14:14:43Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Actually hate speech **is** a crime in many jurisdictions.

Not in the USA, hate speech itself is protected. We’re allowed to spray paint swastikas on our own houses, but it’s a crime to spray paint Jewish Stars-of-David on synagogues. If you spray paint a swastika on a synagogue, first it’s the crime of spray painting, then additionally it’s a crime for the hate speech. Speech is protected, behaviors are not.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/47 "2015-08-17T14:16:23Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I have reasonable confidence that Americans on the whole are not stupid enough to elect a dilettante blowhard.

Even if we do unleash such a plague, does anybody actually trust Trump to _follow through_ on campaign promises?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/48 "2015-08-17T14:16:50Z")

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> [@XT](#):
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> Yeah, of course. Us dirty illegals who have brought disease to the US, suck up all the good jobs, slurp up the welfare, marry white women or men, have babies and trash Walmarts. .

I hope you did your part and brought at least 2 diseases to this country! Why don’t you get back to us after you pick up your welfare check this afternoon.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/49 "2015-08-17T14:19:55Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> Did you read the article you’re quoting? Here is a quote from one of its sources:
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> “Of advanced economies, Canada and the United States are the only countries that grant automatic citizenship to children born to illegal aliens.”

Is Brazil not an advanced economy? They grant citizenship based on birth. If the US and Canada are the only advanced economies in the western hemisphere and jus soli is essentially limited to the western hemisphere, then it would be true that the US and Canada are the only advanced economies that do so. But the phrase “children born to illegal aliens” is itself toxic. What is really meant is citizenship based on birth, regardless of citizenship of parents.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/50 "2015-08-17T14:20:40Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> On what basis? You come across as a racist asshole to this white dude.

Yeah, that’s pretty much what I see too. Except I don’t think I could be as polite as you were when describing him.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/51 "2015-08-17T14:31:34Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> This is simply incorrect. Trump and his supporters all favor legal immigration (as far as I can tell, as I’ve heard none of his supporters say otherwise). Trump has spoken freely of having a large door in his wall for the express purpose of allowing immigrants to enter lawfully.

Trump favors legal immigration, just a lot less of it. Trump said yesterday he will suspend all green cards to Mexicans indefinitely, and impose new fees on visas to pay for his wall.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/52 "2015-08-17T14:37:55Z")

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If I were suicidal and wanted to do the most damage I could do to my country before pulling the trigger, I’d vote for Trump. Oh, and maybe set a refinery ablaze, or something else destructive.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/53 "2015-08-17T14:57:50Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Stupid is as stupid does. I’ll thank you not to cast aspersions on our stupidity from your frosty Canadian ivory tower.

Geez, just take the compliment.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/54 "2015-08-17T15:02:35Z")

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It wasn’t a compliment. It was just all of Canada hoping out loud. 😉

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/55 "2015-08-17T15:08:04Z")

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Yes. I would definitely and eagerly vote for Trump in a Republican Primary election.

I encourage all Democrats to re-register as Republican for the express purpose of voting for Trump. Please; let’s make Trump the GOP nominee! This is the surest way forward. Hallelujah.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/56 "2015-08-17T15:18:42Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> It wasn’t a compliment. It was just all of Canada hoping out loud. 😉

True, we have to cling to tenuous notions now and then…

I gave it some serious thought and while it may be initially tempting to vote Trump as a joke or in protest, it wouldn’t be worth the encouragement it extends to Trump and his followers.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/57 "2015-08-17T15:31:15Z")

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I wouldn’t vote for Trump. But out of the crazy GOP lineup, there is no one I would vote for over any Democrat

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/58 "2015-08-17T15:32:28Z")

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If Hitler had spent the last 70 years in suspended animation in his bunker, and he was revived and was running as Donald Trumps opponent, I’d probably vote for Trump.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/59 "2015-08-17T15:40:42Z")

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Finally, endorsement!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/60 "2015-08-17T15:54:07Z")

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> [@contradancer](#):
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> I’m thinking maybe you have not lived where there they are overrun with illegals or you would read in the paper about the spousal abuse and murder that happens all the time.

[Myths and facts about immigration to the United States:](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Myths_and_facts_about_immigration_to_the_United_States)

> [@](#):
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> **Illegal immigrants cause crime**
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> Whilst a common cry of the anti immigration brigade - and the font of endless anecdotal “evidence” - the facts don’t support this. According to FBI statistics in Arizona in 2008, despite the increased presence of illegal immigrants, crime rates have actually dropped, while the population has increased[15]. Only 8% of the prison population are immigrants, which also includes legal immigrants as well.[16]

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