# Would you vote for Donald Trump for POTUS? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 17, 2015, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054 "2015-08-17T06:08:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/141 "2015-08-18T04:55:14Z")
> [@XT](#): > > … really juicy swear words … Oh, hi, **XT** ; there you are! I wanted to answer your banality and ignorance in another thread but didn’t know how to communicate at your level and conform to GD diction. Briefly, the “Arab Winter” affected no country at anywhere near the scale as the Sunnis attacking Shia-aligned regimes in Iraq and Syria. You effectively equate the Sunni ISIS (almost created by Bush-Cheney incompetence) with a hypothetical Shi’ite uprising against a Sunni regime in Iraq. You are an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/142 "2015-08-18T05:19:41Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Oh, hi, **XT** ; there you are! I wanted to answer your banality and ignorance in another thread but didn’t know how to communicate at your level and conform to GD diction. Are you congenitally incapable of starting your own Pit thread? I mean, I can understand if the thing you were bringing up was somehow related, but this is just stalking. One of you is an idiot, and it’s not **XT**. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/143 "2015-08-18T05:52:15Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Oh, hi, **XT** ; there you are! I wanted to answer your banality and ignorance in another thread but didn’t know how to communicate at your level and conform to GD diction. > > Briefly, the “Arab Winter” affected no country at anywhere near the scale as the Sunnis attacking Shia-aligned regimes in Iraq and Syria. You effectively equate the Sunni ISIS (almost created by Bush-Cheney incompetence) with a hypothetical Shi’ite uprising against a Sunni regime in Iraq. You are an idiot. Cabeza de mierda (probably misspelled, but the thought’s there) ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/144 "2015-08-18T06:49:00Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > But when I hear the ‘white people are a minority now’ rallying cry, I hear **the fear**. **The fear** is 'they will take over". And when they take over, they’ll be pissed and then they will legally treat _us_ they way we have been treating _THEM_ for all these years!!! That would be horrible and by God that can’t happen!!. I live in a neighborhood which, while still good, is not the most expensive part of town anymore. People here don’t say it outright but the older ones are unhappy that “they” are moving in. But for us “they” involves Asian Silicon Valley execs making lots of money. And all damned legal. Racism is not attached to any semi-rational cause. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/145 "2015-08-18T10:00:25Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Trump as a candidate is comedy gold. Trump as an actual office holder would be taking the joke too far. You know that comedy thing where something is funny for a while, and then it becomes not funny, but if you push past the not funny it becomes funny again? Like the Peter Griffin fighting the giant chicken gag. Maybe Trump is like that. Sure, not funny to elect him, but re-electing him, comedy genius. We won’t know unless we try. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/146 "2015-08-18T12:40:04Z")
> [@contradancer](#): > > I am from California and white people are now in the minority there. Illegals have brought back diseases we thought were gone to the state. _ **Do you mean anti-vaxxers?** _ ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/147 "2015-08-18T13:04:23Z")
> [@Chen019](#): > > Doesn’t Mexico adopt pretty tight border control on those coming from the South? What is your view on Israel? Should it relax its borders? No country can really be a sovereign nation if it can’t control its own borders. That’s obvious? Wow, then I guess there have been very few sovereign nations in history. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/148 "2015-08-18T13:34:09Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > No, they are not. > > [2014 Census data](http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06000.html) shows white people in California at 73.5, about 5 points off the national average. Hispanics are considered white people. White alone (not hispanic or latino, still 39 %, and still a majority) Nitpick: 39% would be a _plurality_. But even that should be enough to satisfy the most xenophobic people. It’s not like us brown folk are a monolithic voting block or something. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/149 "2015-08-18T13:35:05Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > You total Jackass … did you pay them $1 an hour … did you force the eight-year-olds to [pick your crappy crops as well] … how the hell did you afford the goddamned cardboard for their housing … did you beat them as well … when the work was done, did you call _la megra_ … TAXES, you moron, illegals don’t pay taxes, you fucking pocketed the money didn’t you. You belong in prison … Um, undocumented people do pay taxes, though? Various ways? I mean, the stereotype of workers totally paid under the table doesn’t really apply to undocumented workers in the trades. They have tax numbers, one way or another; they get payroll taxes withheld. They just don’t have visas. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/150 "2015-08-18T13:37:06Z")
> [@Bill\_Door](#): > > You know that comedy thing where something is funny for a while, and then it becomes not funny, but if you push past the not funny it becomes funny again? Like the Peter Griffin fighting the giant chicken gag. > > Maybe Trump is like that. Sure, not funny to elect him, but re-electing him, comedy genius. We won’t know unless we try. I think you meant “like _Family Guy_.” ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/151 "2015-08-18T13:49:45Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Nitpick: 39% would be a _plurality_. But even that should be enough to satisfy the most xenophobic people. It’s not like us brown folk are a monolithic voting block or something. “Should be,” maybe. But it sure isn’t. Less than 50%, hell, less than 75%, means my good, god-fearing, Christian white culture is being destroyed. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/152 "2015-08-18T13:58:30Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Yes. I would definitely and eagerly vote for Trump in a Republican Primary election. > > I encourage all Democrats to re-register as Republican for the express purpose of voting for Trump. Please; let’s make Trump the GOP nominee! This is the surest way forward. Hallelujah. But–but– Yes, this is a capital idea, I say, old chums. Why, Bill has this nomination in the bag (with his hag), let’s all go and vote in the other fellows’ primary to make sure he finally gets that Third Term, wink wink nudge nudge. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/153 "2015-08-18T14:03:57Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > Um, undocumented people do pay taxes, though? Various ways? I mean, the stereotype of workers totally paid under the table doesn’t really apply to undocumented workers in the trades. They have tax numbers, one way or another; they get payroll taxes withheld. They just don’t have visas. And Income Tax isn’t the only tax. Texas has no State Income Tax, but we have Sales Tax. Most of the public schools are funded by Property Tax; believe me, if you rent your landlord\* does\* pass that expense on to you. In fact, our taxes are pretty regressive. And there is no question that the undocumented pay their share. Or [more than their share,](http://www.burntorangereport.com/diary/29392/texas-third-regressive-tax-system-u-s) depending on their incomes. > [@](#): > > In Texas, the inequality is even worse. The top 1 percent only pay, on average, 2.9 percent of their income in state and local taxes – one of the lowest rates in the nation. Meanwhile, the lowest 20 percent of earners pay an average of 12.5 percent of their income in state and local taxes – one of the highest rates in the nation. That comes out to a tax burden for low-income earners that’s roughly 4.3 times as high as for the top 1 percent. > > This disparity lands Texas’s tax structure as the third most regressive in the U.S. As the Center for Public Policy Priorities puts it, “Texans who are least able to afford it pay more in taxes as a percentage of their income than those who could easily afford to pay more.” ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/154 "2015-08-18T14:05:04Z")
> [@andros](#): > > “Should be,” maybe. But it sure isn’t. Less than 50%, hell, less than 75%, means my good, god-fearing, Christian white culture is being destroyed. If it’s any consolation, I like pro wrestling and monster trucks. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/155 "2015-08-18T14:08:41Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > **PROTIP** : “Illegal” is an adjective. Using it as a noun, while it may be technically proper according to some dictionaries, marks one as willing to negate/dismiss the humanness of actual human beings; this seriously impairs one’s qualification to participate in discussions of illegal immigration and border control. > > Expressing a willingness to have Donald Trump assume the presidency seriously impairs one’s qualification to be looked upon as sane. Bolding mine to draw attention to your typo. No doubt you meant that to be “PCBULLSHITTIP”. Don’t mention it. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/156 "2015-08-18T14:13:42Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Bolding mine to draw attention to your typo. No doubt you meant that to be “PCBULLSHITTIP”. > > Don’t mention it. Me, I find it useful to know how my words are being perceived, even by people I disagree with. I mean, I know you’re not concerned what the evil libs think about you, but it’s useful information. On the other hand, you already _know_ the sort of baggage that comes with, say, calling people “illegals,” and I imagine you not only accept it but enjoy it. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/157 "2015-08-18T14:21:23Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Bolding mine to draw attention to your typo. No doubt you meant that to be “PCBULLSHITTIP”. > > Don’t mention it. I’ll thank you to not tell me what I meant, you fucking troll. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/158 "2015-08-18T14:50:26Z")
> [@andros](#): > > “Should be,” maybe. But it sure isn’t. Less than 50%, hell, less than 75%, means my good, god-fearing, Christian white culture is being destroyed. Well shit, at least we get Mariachi music on Sundays. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/159 "2015-08-18T15:19:09Z")
> [@XT](#): > > Now, since we are in the Pit, I’d probably call him something like pinche puto and tell the him that I cago en la leche de tu puta madre and that he can pegarlo en el culo and besarme el culo marron peludo…or something along those lines. You know, my Spanish is only what I learned while living in Florida, but I understood every word of the above. Who said cultural exchange doesn’t work? ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054/160 "2015-08-18T23:15:40Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Well shit, at least we get Mariachi music on Sundays. I say we send all the mariachi musicians back across the border, along with the OP. In the same bus. (“And this will be your room, maestro”) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-vote-for-donald-trump-for-potus/728054.md?page=9)