# Would you watch 24 without Jack Bauer?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 24, 2006, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-watch-24-without-jack-bauer/341349 "2006-01-24T03:23:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-watch-24-without-jack-bauer/341349/21 "2006-01-24T13:02:59Z")

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I would watch a _24: Villains_ spinoff where they went back and we got to find out about the lives of Nina Meyers and Mia Kirshner’s character (Mandy.) I would be interested in the stories behind them and I wouldn’t be worried that the writers could make it a thrill to watch, so it would just be a matter of whether the actresses were strong enough to carry a lead role. Mia Kirshner was essentially the lead in Crow: City of Angels and carried it well I thought, so I see no reason she couldn’t do it here. Not sure about Nina’s actress.

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**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-watch-24-without-jack-bauer/341349/22 "2006-01-24T13:33:29Z")

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> [@Sage Rat](#):
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> I would watch a _24: Villains_ spinoff where they went back and we got to find out about the lives of Nina Meyers and Mia Kirshner’s character (Mandy.)

Well, considering that Nina Meyers is dead, I think that any show that centered around her would be rather short-lived.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-watch-24-without-jack-bauer/341349/23 "2006-01-24T14:08:54Z")

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> [@Sage Rat](#):
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> where they went back

Read 'em and weep. Read 'em and weep, hombre.

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**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-watch-24-without-jack-bauer/341349/24 "2006-01-24T14:15:26Z")

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> [@Sage Rat](#):
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> Read 'em and weep. Read 'em and weep, hombre.

Read it. Weeping now.

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**Author:** ![c\_goat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@c\_goat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/c_goat)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-watch-24-without-jack-bauer/341349/25 "2006-01-24T14:24:08Z")

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I would watch Black Bauer and/or Tony, but it wouldn’t really be the same and I don’t know if it’d keep my interest.

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**Author:** ![RancidYakButterTeaParty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@RancidYakButterTeaParty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RancidYakButterTeaParty)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-watch-24-without-jack-bauer/341349/26 "2006-01-24T14:46:04Z")

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How about Tony, Edgar, Curtis, President Wussy, Audrey and Chloe all move into a high rise apartment together in L.A. where they live right across the hall from each other. We get to see all of their wacky interactions there, and sometimes they meet at a local coffee house. I think that show has great potential.

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**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-watch-24-without-jack-bauer/341349/27 "2006-01-24T15:25:05Z")

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Not a chance! Jack Bauer is probably the most outrageous character on network television. Without him (and/or Kiefer Sutherland), there is no show.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-watch-24-without-jack-bauer/341349/28 "2006-01-24T16:34:30Z")

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Probably not, but never say never. If they replaced him with an equally good, equally outrageous actor, maybe.

I could see ‘24’ starring Samuel L. Jackson being a lot of fun.

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**Author:** ![YPOD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e99b99/32.png) [@YPOD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YPOD)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-watch-24-without-jack-bauer/341349/29 "2006-01-24T16:41:50Z")

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Let’s see - could Chloe replace Jack?

Willing to break the rules? - of course.

Shoot someone on sight? - sure.

Knows how to use a cellphone? - she’s the best.

Knows how to use a PC and open a file? - Edgar stands in awe of her.

Torture someone? - with relish!

Have serial unsuccessful romantic relationships? - naturally.

Hide her contempt for her superiors - so so.

One bad day after another? - obviously.

But it would be a little bit different with Chloe. Remember the scene where Kim shot that abusive father? Jack said “shoot him again.” Chloe would say something like “would you please just shoot him again? Why do you have to argue with me? Just do as I say so we can get on with important stuff”

A little work with her dialogue and Chloe could pull it off.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-watch-24-without-jack-bauer/341349/30 "2006-01-24T16:44:14Z")

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> [@Sam Stone](#):
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> Probably not, but never say never. If they replaced him with an equally good, equally outrageous actor, maybe.
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> I could see ‘24’ starring Samuel L. Jackson being a lot of fun.

Now, that would indeed be Black Bauer.

**Did you hear what I said, motherfucker**!!!

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**Author:** ![c\_goat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@c\_goat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/c_goat)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-watch-24-without-jack-bauer/341349/31 "2006-01-24T16:47:42Z")

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> [@Sam Stone](#):
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> I could see ‘24’ starring Samuel L. Jackson being a lot of fun.

… OR MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WILL DIE, BITCH!

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**Author:** ![c\_goat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@c\_goat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/c_goat)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-watch-24-without-jack-bauer/341349/32 "2006-01-24T16:49:25Z")

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> [@Sam Stone](#):
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> I could see ‘24’ starring Samuel L. Jackson being a lot of fun.

And maybe the first terrorist activity will involve snakes on a plane (as a diversion from the real terror plot, of course).

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-watch-24-without-jack-bauer/341349/33 "2006-01-24T17:28:29Z")

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> [@Sam Stone](#):
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> I could see ‘24’ starring Samuel L. Jackson being a lot of fun.

…  
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I just pictured Jack Bauer with a lightsabre.

[/geekgasm]

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-watch-24-without-jack-bauer/341349/34 "2006-01-24T18:03:53Z")

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We have agreement. We will continue to watch ‘24’ if they replace Jack Bauer with Samuel L. Jackson.

“And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger!” \<blam\>

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**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-watch-24-without-jack-bauer/341349/35 "2006-01-24T18:19:04Z")

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> [@Sam Stone](#):
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> I could see ‘24’ starring Samuel L. Jackson being a lot of fun.

In “Pulp Fiction” form. Including the afro.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-watch-24-without-jack-bauer/341349/36 "2006-01-24T18:21:42Z")

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I guess I should read the entire thread before replying.  
Samuel in the interrogation room…

“Say ‘I don’t know’ one more time, mother\_\_\_\_\_. Say it one more \_\_\_damned time!”

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-watch-24-without-jack-bauer/341349/37 "2006-01-24T20:34:01Z")

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I remember reading somewhere during season 1 that Keither had said that if the show was a hit and they wanted to bring it back for a second season, he’d want Jack to die at the end of the first hour. He thought the premise and the supporting cast was so strong that it didn’t need Jack Bauer.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-watch-24-without-jack-bauer/341349/38 "2006-01-24T21:19:50Z")

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> [@MEBuckner](#):
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> Uh-oh…

Damn! Chloe and Michelle went to my alma matre, UC Davis. How did I miss them? How? 😃

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