# Wow. Could Prometheus look any MORE like Alien? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 22, 2011, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-could-prometheus-look-any-more-like-alien/607096 "2011-12-22T17:55:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-could-prometheus-look-any-more-like-alien/607096/1 "2011-12-22T17:55:04Z")
io9 has the first [trailer up](http://io9.com/5870445/watch-the-first-trailer-for-ridley-scotts-prometheus-now) for Ridley Scott’s new one, ‘Prometheus’. Good Lord, could it be any more clear that he made an Alien movie without the logo? I know it was sort of aimed that way before negotiations didn’t work out but WOW. I generally expect the serial numbers to be filed off a little more thoroughly than this. Not that I’m complaining. There hasn’t been a decent Alien move (IMHO) since James Cameron’s Aliens. So having someone who really knows what he’s doing with it make on will be a pleasure (hopefully). But seriously, I am seeing something that’s not there? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-could-prometheus-look-any-more-like-alien/607096/2 "2011-12-22T18:00:29Z")
For a sec there, it looked like they found the Guardian of Forever. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-could-prometheus-look-any-more-like-alien/607096/3 "2011-12-22T18:03:25Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Good Lord, could it be any more clear that he made an Alien movie without the logo? I know it was sort of aimed that way before negotiations didn’t work out but WOW. I generally expect the serial numbers to be filed off a little more thoroughly than this. It says it’s a prequel to _Alien._ ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-could-prometheus-look-any-more-like-alien/607096/4 "2011-12-22T18:04:52Z")
Yep. It is/was intended as the prequel and I have been waiting forever for it. (Does it still feature the “space jockey” race, I wonder?) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-could-prometheus-look-any-more-like-alien/607096/5 "2011-12-22T18:08:22Z")
And it looks awesome! The trailer doesn’t even pretend to do anything but show us how it’s going to look, and it looks freaking awesome! ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-could-prometheus-look-any-more-like-alien/607096/6 "2011-12-22T18:21:53Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > But seriously, I am seeing something that’s not there? It’s still explicitly _Alien_ - it’s just less of a direct, immediately-before-the-events-of-_Alien_ prequel than it was originally conceived as. We will still see the Space Jockeys, and the alien in this movie will be presented as a direct progenitor of the alien that terrorized the _Nostromo_. There’s certainly no attempt to “file the serial numbers off” - it’s supposed to be as close to the _Alien_ mythology as possible, just expanded a bit - that’s why he brought H.R. Giger in on it. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-could-prometheus-look-any-more-like-alien/607096/7 "2011-12-22T19:33:15Z")
From wikipedia: > [@](#): > > Scott downplayed the film’s ties to the Alien franchise. He said, “While Alien was indeed the jumping-off point for this project, out of the creative process evolved a new, grand mythology and universe in which this original story takes place. The keen fan will recognize strands of Alien’s DNA, so to speak, but the ideas tackled in this film are unique, large and provocative.”[53] However, speaking to MTV on February 12, 2011, Fassbender stated the film was still an Alien prequel so-to-speak, saying, “Prometheus is absolutely connected to Alien… There’s a definite connecting vein.”[54] In a June 2011 interview, screenwriter Damon Lindelof claimed it will be a prequel to the Alien films, but follow a different story, in the sense that “a true prequel should essentially [precede] the events of the original film, but be about something entirely different, feature different characters, have an entirely different theme, although it takes place in that same world. That was my fundamental feeling about what this movie wanted to be”.[1] By July 2011, Scott stated, “By the end of the third act you start to realize there’s a DNA of the very first [Alien], but none of the subsequent [films].”[42] Nevertheless, he made it clear that he made no direct link between Prometheus and Alien.[42] In an interview on the BBC Morning Show, Rafe Spall added to the discussion on the matter by saying saying, “I think fans of the franchise will love it. Alien is one of the best films ever made, and it’s a real buzz to be in a space suit on an ‘Alien’ set with Ridley Scott coming and speaking to you. It’s incredible. That’s why I wanted to be an actor, to be in a space suit on an ‘Alien’ set”.[2] ---
**Author:** ![Theophane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@Theophane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Theophane)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-could-prometheus-look-any-more-like-alien/607096/8 "2011-12-22T20:39:44Z")
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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-could-prometheus-look-any-more-like-alien/607096/9 "2011-12-22T20:41:44Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > In Greek mythology, Prometheus was a Titan, was he not? What should a Greek Titan look like, in your opinion? They seem to come in all shapes and sizes. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Xs7fzOrUopc/maxresdefault.jpg "Wrath of the Titans Official Trailer #1 - Sam Worthington Movie (2012) HD") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs7fzOrUopc) 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Theophane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@Theophane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Theophane)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-could-prometheus-look-any-more-like-alien/607096/10 "2011-12-22T20:45:06Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > They seem to come in all shapes and sizes. > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs7fzOrUopc](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs7fzOrUopc) > > 🙂 I just watched the trailer and realized the movie is not a depiction of the Greek myth. For my first post on SD, a little embarassing. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-could-prometheus-look-any-more-like-alien/607096/11 "2011-12-22T20:46:14Z")
Heh. Your edit makes my reply seem out of left field. No worries! And welcome! ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-could-prometheus-look-any-more-like-alien/607096/12 "2011-12-22T21:00:07Z")
It looks and feels great. I’m wondering if they’re exploring the idea of panspermia. Great to see Ridley finally back doing SciFi. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-could-prometheus-look-any-more-like-alien/607096/13 "2011-12-22T22:09:24Z")
I won’t watch the teasers, the trailers, clips or anything because I want to see it unfold on the big screen, but June 8 can’t come quick enough. The Aliens world, Ridley Scott, Geiger? Oh bring it on. I’m also looking forward to that cast. You can’t go wrong with **Noomi Rapace**. First billed doesn’t always mean anything on IMDB but if it does, damn, how exciting. She’s hardly unknown, but I hope this will make her a star in the same way Alien made Sigourney Weaver a star. **Charlize Theron** is solid in everything she does. **Michael Fassbender** is one of our finest actors. **Patrick Wilson** (well, I could do without him, he drives me nuts. Hope he gets eaten early on. He is billed as “Cocooned man” which thrills me in a very unhealthy way) **Idris Elba** is always awesome. **Guy Pearce** is too. But it’s Rapace and Fassbender for the win, above all others. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-could-prometheus-look-any-more-like-alien/607096/14 "2011-12-22T22:18:44Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > I just watched the trailer and realized the movie is not a depiction of the Greek myth. For my first post on SD, a little embarassing. 🙂 It likely will be if you squint a bit. _Prometheus_ is literally the name of the ship, but the crew is in search of the origin of mankind and may bring back a destructive, consuming force and (in all probability) pay a gruesome price for it. ---
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-could-prometheus-look-any-more-like-alien/607096/15 "2011-12-22T23:32:19Z")
I too had thought Scott had completely abandoned the Alien prequel motif. I know he said he had at some point because I remember being severely disappointed upon reading that. I played the clip before reading the text below it, and though “Jesus titty-fucking Christ! That \*\*IS \*\*Alien! Those are primitive eggs, that **IS** a facehugger, that \*\*IS \*\*the Space Jockey set, that sure looks to be an LV427-like ship!” Then I read that he _has_ changed his mind again, and apparently it _is_ a sort-of prequel. I think Scott is just trying to avoid the cheesiness that is always present with prequels, them becoming so frequent, and inevitably bad, these days. Would be nice to have a well made Alien film again. I liked Alien³ more than most, but it _was_ majorly flawed. I just watched, well TiVo-skimmed, Alien 4 again, my god that has got to be one of the most godawful pieces of worthless shit ever made! And the first AvP wasn’t exactly great, but it was surprisingly not awful, pretty entertaining. AvP 2? Movie made by two effects guys who could not write a decent story or character or probably \*sentence \*if their lives depended on it! Worst thing about the AvP franchise is that, before it started, Cameron was considering returning to the Alien films ( **YAY!!!** ) but AvP soured him on it. Maybe Ridley will bring respectability back to the franchise and he’ll reconsider! ---
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-could-prometheus-look-any-more-like-alien/607096/16 "2011-12-22T23:43:37Z")
Also forgot to mention, in the new clip you can most definitely hear the high-pitched ‘yell’ that was heavily featured in [the original Alien ‘egg’ trailer!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEVY_lonKf4) ---
**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2011, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-could-prometheus-look-any-more-like-alien/607096/17 "2011-12-23T01:04:54Z")
Just watched the trailer, and my jaw dropped as I realised just how big a callback it was to the original _Alien_ and the early promos for it. Amazing! I really believe that the “Alien” brand has become associated with shitty films ever since _Alien3_ in 1992, and the issue here is one of branding: why saddle this new film with all the baggage of _Alien3_, _Resurrection_ and the _AvP_ films? There may be continuity issues as well–it no doubt pays no mind to anything established in the later films. That said, I hope it can coexist with Cameron’s _Aliens_, which was a legitimate sequel in my mind. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2011, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-could-prometheus-look-any-more-like-alien/607096/18 "2011-12-23T01:21:10Z")
I will admit the I have never seen a single Alien movie. Never appealed to me for some reason. But after seeing some set pics and watching the trailer, I _really_ want to see this movie. I think I’ll put off watching Alien, so I’ll have no frame of reference going in. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2011, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-could-prometheus-look-any-more-like-alien/607096/19 "2011-12-23T01:37:44Z")
I think the reason it’s not an _Alien_ film is because there’s no Xenomorph. Instead it appears to be exclusively about the Space Jockey. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2011, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-could-prometheus-look-any-more-like-alien/607096/20 "2011-12-23T02:25:58Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > I just watched the trailer and realized the movie is not a depiction of the Greek myth. For my first post on SD, a little embarassing. 🙂 Don’t let that stop you, man. If I had a nickel for every time I’ve screwed up here-hell I pulled off [a real boneheaded manuever](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=635420) just last week. Anyhoo, welcome to the Dope. 😃 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-could-prometheus-look-any-more-like-alien/607096.md?page=2)