# Wow, I hate this new format

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-i-hate-this-new-format/795610>\
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**Created:** [September 6, 2017, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-i-hate-this-new-format/795610 "2017-09-06T05:21:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-i-hate-this-new-format/795610/181 "2017-09-06T23:13:04Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Fonts are bigger on iOS in Safari, enough that I no longer have to turn my phone to landscape to read threads from farther than 12" away. This seems like an odd “objective” complaint.
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> Unless you’re talking about a few fonts here and there, as opposed to post content. 95% of what I’m reading on the forum is other people’s posts so that’s generally all I care about.

I agree with this. I no longer have to continuously mess around with the display in order to comfortably read and post on my iPhone.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-i-hate-this-new-format/795610/182 "2017-09-07T00:09:39Z")

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I think one of the problems may be that the theme they chose is ultimately intended for the latest version of vBulletin, and not so much for one that is 12 years out of date.

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**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-i-hate-this-new-format/795610/183 "2017-09-07T00:19:58Z")

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I am not finding anything to hate but the overall look strikes me as a little busy. I’ll have to think as I cruise through the various aspects/pages I usually use.

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**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-i-hate-this-new-format/795610/184 "2017-09-07T00:24:39Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> I think one of the problems may be that the theme they chose is ultimately intended for the latest version of vBulletin, and not so much for one that is 12 years out of date.

That isn’t the case. The theme (see quote below) was designed for vBulletin 3.x

> [@Looks good....](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-good/795609/55):
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> I don’t think this was a vbulletin upgrade. It looks like it’s just a new pre-packaged theme purchased from here. [ST vb3 Responsive](https://www.sultantheme.com/product/st-vb3-responsive/)

Most of these problems are just from lack of testing and tweaking the code to make it look right. Out of the box solutions like this often require almost as much work and testing as just doing it from scratch.

Instead of beating TPTB over the head about every single little oddity in this theme, my vote is to coax (goad?) them into making the “SDMB Classic” theme available to those who would prefer to use it. That requires very little coding or testing.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-i-hate-this-new-format/795610/185 "2017-09-07T00:51:33Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> And here is something I am not sure was mentioned, there are no longer any dates or times saying when a thread was last posted to! What idiot thought that was a good choice?

One of my main issues with the change.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-i-hate-this-new-format/795610/186 "2017-09-07T03:34:18Z")

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> [@Crazyhorse](#):
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> That isn’t the case. The theme (see quote below) was designed for vBulletin 3.x

Well that’s tragic, then. It looks a lot better on its demo page than here. I would’ve been quite happy with keeping it at the theme’s default and just changing some colours, but this looks cluttered and messy.

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**Author:** ![maplekiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@maplekiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maplekiwi)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-i-hate-this-new-format/795610/187 "2017-09-07T03:34:42Z")

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If you guys are still testing, the dark grey bar where it says view first unread is really ugly.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-i-hate-this-new-format/795610/188 "2017-09-07T03:46:02Z")

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It’s harder to tell now if you’re on the last page of a thread, or if it goes on to another page (or pages). It used to be that the page number you were on was bolded, and the others half-toned (before and after). Now it’s all the same shade. The “next page” \> indicator also appears whether or not it’s the last page. Annoying.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-i-hate-this-new-format/795610/189 "2017-09-07T04:31:08Z")

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One thing that has (I think) been added is the ability to specify which page in a long thread you want to go to. That or I just never noticed the drop-down after the final page number that gives you a Go to Page modal. If that’s new, I’m pleased. If it’s not, I’m oblivious but happier.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-i-hate-this-new-format/795610/190 "2017-09-07T05:17:33Z")

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May the designer of this new look live in interesting times.

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-i-hate-this-new-format/795610/191 "2017-09-07T05:52:02Z")

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On my iPhone the new design looks even worse than on my PC.

Tapatalk makes the hurting stop:)  
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-i-hate-this-new-format/795610/192 "2017-09-07T05:53:45Z")

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“Uhh…y’know I don’t say this too often, but uh, this sucks.”  
-Butthead  
That’s about the only way to sum it up.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Crap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.crap/32/3131_2.png) [@Dr.Crap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Crap)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-i-hate-this-new-format/795610/193 "2017-09-07T05:59:29Z")

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If you hate the new look, try [**BigT** ’s userscript.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=835640) It’s site specific and makes the SDMB look not fucked up.

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-i-hate-this-new-format/795610/194 "2017-09-07T06:01:46Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> That little floaty arrow with the forum switch drop down box is usually covered by your ads, so they’re pointless. Also, the theme sucks on the iPhone and regular computer but it’s merely just awful on an iPad. Ton all three devices the huge blue lines between posts is incredibly annoying

I will get used to the new look, but the fucking multi quote function does not work on chrome or safari on my mac. I’m not understanding what this ‘upgrade’ was designed to improve. Are there any new FEATURES i can use?

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**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-i-hate-this-new-format/795610/195 "2017-09-07T06:08:08Z")

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> [@Enola\_Gay](#):
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> I’m not understanding what this ‘upgrade’ was designed to improve.

The appearance for users on phones/tablets.

Rather than set it so that those users get directed to a mobile optimized site, they decided it’d just be easier to send us all there.

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-i-hate-this-new-format/795610/196 "2017-09-07T06:17:42Z")

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> [@Debillw3](#):
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> The appearance for users on phones/tablets.
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> Rather than set it so that those users get directed to a mobile optimized site, they decided it’d just be easier to send us all there.

Ah thank you. Apparently I missed the memo & only read the SDMB on my laptop.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-i-hate-this-new-format/795610/197 "2017-09-07T06:26:03Z")

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Is there a way to get the multiquoting to work? Other than by copying quotes and pasting them all into a reply box?

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-i-hate-this-new-format/795610/198 "2017-09-07T06:45:25Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Is there a way to get the multiquoting to work? Other than by copying quotes and pasting them all into a reply box?

I can’t figure out a way besides copy/paste. But I am guessing they will fix this glitch, since it clearly ought to work.

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**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-i-hate-this-new-format/795610/199 "2017-09-07T06:47:26Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Is there a way to get the multiquoting to work? Other than by copying quotes and pasting them all into a reply box?

Click the multi-quote icon, instead of just the words.

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-i-hate-this-new-format/795610/200 "2017-09-07T06:55:11Z")

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> [@Debillw3](#):
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> Click the multi-quote icon, instead of just the words.

Doesn’t work on Chrome or Safari using Mac OS 10.3.1

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