# wow is it me or is fox making the miss usa pagent look porny..... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 2, 2016, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-is-it-me-or-is-fox-making-the-miss-usa-pagent-look-porny/756291 "2016-06-02T07:57:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-is-it-me-or-is-fox-making-the-miss-usa-pagent-look-porny/756291/1 "2016-06-02T07:57:52Z")
I haven’t actually watched the pageant since mom passed on but it seems to be on fox (possibly because its owned by trump these days) and the previews ive seen make it look like the tryouts for amature night at the KitKat club … am I missing anything or is that how it is now days and I’m getting old ? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-is-it-me-or-is-fox-making-the-miss-usa-pagent-look-porny/756291/2 "2016-06-02T08:23:38Z")
If the promos DO look like armature night at the Kit Kat Club, it’s probably because they’re trying to generate some interest. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-is-it-me-or-is-fox-making-the-miss-usa-pagent-look-porny/756291/3 "2016-06-02T14:11:45Z")
Haven’t beauty pageants always been rather porny? Let’s be honest, here: We’re not actually honoring these young women because they want to bring world peace and protect all the cute puppies. A beauty pageant is inherently about honoring women because they’re hot. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-is-it-me-or-is-fox-making-the-miss-usa-pagent-look-porny/756291/4 "2016-06-02T14:24:50Z")
Oh, come on **Chronos**. . . we march cosmetically and surgically “enhanced” women of a very specific body type in front of male audiences in bikinis, and you’re trying to tell me that it’s not because they’re smart and talented!? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-is-it-me-or-is-fox-making-the-miss-usa-pagent-look-porny/756291/5 "2016-06-02T14:36:49Z")
Wait, the male audiences are in bikinis? I missed that part. ---
**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-is-it-me-or-is-fox-making-the-miss-usa-pagent-look-porny/756291/6 "2016-06-02T14:46:53Z")
Miss America (which is not related to Miss USA) has for several years promoted itself as a scholarship pageant. The Miss America Organization proudly proclaims on [its web page](http://missamerica.org/about-us/): > [@](#): > > ]The Miss America Organization, a 501(c)4 non-profit organization, is the nation’s leading advocate for women’s education and the largest provider of scholarship assistance to young women in the United States, awarding millions of dollars annually in cash awards and in-kind tuition waivers. MAO is comprised of 52 licensed organizations, including all 50 states, Washington, D.C., and Puerto Rico. And if anyone hasn’t seen it, it is really worth watching [Jon Oliver’s report on their actual scholarship activities](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDPCmmZifE8). ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-is-it-me-or-is-fox-making-the-miss-usa-pagent-look-porny/756291/7 "2016-06-02T14:49:11Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Wait, the male audiences are in bikinis? I missed that part. Am I watching the wrong channel? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-is-it-me-or-is-fox-making-the-miss-usa-pagent-look-porny/756291/8 "2016-06-02T15:41:11Z")
Goddamn intermittent shift key! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-is-it-me-or-is-fox-making-the-miss-usa-pagent-look-porny/756291/9 "2016-06-02T16:10:22Z")
> [@nightshadea](#): > > I haven’t actually watched the pageant since mom passed on but it seems to be on fox (possibly because its owned by trump these days) and the previews ive seen make it look like the tryouts for amature night at the KitKat club … Business as usual for Trump, in other words. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-is-it-me-or-is-fox-making-the-miss-usa-pagent-look-porny/756291/10 "2016-06-02T18:53:28Z")
But classy. Very classy. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-is-it-me-or-is-fox-making-the-miss-usa-pagent-look-porny/756291/11 "2016-06-02T19:15:00Z")
> [@nightshadea](#): > > I haven’t actually watched the pageant since mom passed on but it seems to be on fox (possibly because its owned by trump these days) and the previews ive seen make it look like the tryouts for amature night at the KitKat club Linky? Cite? ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-is-it-me-or-is-fox-making-the-miss-usa-pagent-look-porny/756291/12 "2016-06-02T19:25:11Z")
Not that it matters much but Donald Trump no longer owns the Miss Universe pageant. After his spat with Univision last year he bought out their stake and then sold the whole thing. It is now owned by William Morris (the agency, not a person named that). ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-is-it-me-or-is-fox-making-the-miss-usa-pagent-look-porny/756291/13 "2016-06-02T20:19:49Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Goddamn intermittent shift key! By G-d, I thought that was the Windows TM key! That’s what I’ve been doing wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Ken001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/43a26b/32.png) [@Ken001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ken001)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-is-it-me-or-is-fox-making-the-miss-usa-pagent-look-porny/756291/14 "2016-06-02T20:24:54Z")
And now a word from our sponsor, Miss South Carolina: "I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uhmmm, some people out there in our nation don’t have maps and uh, I believe that our, I, education like such as, uh, South Africa, and uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should, uhhh, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, should help South Africa, it should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future, for us.” ---
**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-is-it-me-or-is-fox-making-the-miss-usa-pagent-look-porny/756291/15 "2016-06-02T20:41:59Z")
But, but . . . it’s a scholarship pageant!!! ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-is-it-me-or-is-fox-making-the-miss-usa-pagent-look-porny/756291/16 "2016-06-02T20:48:51Z")
**wow is it me or is fox making the miss usa pagent look porny…** And that’s a problem because…? ---
**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-is-it-me-or-is-fox-making-the-miss-usa-pagent-look-porny/756291/17 "2016-06-02T21:39:29Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Wait, the male audiences are in bikinis? As for any event seeking to stay popular, it’s necessary for the Miss USA pageant to keep up with the times. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-is-it-me-or-is-fox-making-the-miss-usa-pagent-look-porny/756291/18 "2016-06-02T21:46:00Z")
If you don’t want to watch a video, here’s more; > **[Miss America unclear on amount awarded in scholarships](https://pressofatlanticcity.com/missamerica/miss-america-unclear-on-amount-awarded-in-scholarships/article_955c9c3e-9382-11e4-b011-87e8fec85c64.html)** > > The Miss America Organization bills itself as “one of the largest providers of scholarships to women in the world,” but after three months of requests, the group remains unwilling to I love that. Perfectly Trumpy. Scholarships “made available”. And they refuse to say exactly how much. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-is-it-me-or-is-fox-making-the-miss-usa-pagent-look-porny/756291/19 "2016-06-02T23:09:57Z")
> [@Ken001](#): > > And now a word from our sponsor, Miss South Carolina: > > "I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uhmmm, some people out there in our nation don’t have maps and uh, I believe that our, I, education like such as, uh, South Africa, and uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should, uhhh, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, should help South Africa, it should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future, for us.” But she’s hot! ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-is-it-me-or-is-fox-making-the-miss-usa-pagent-look-porny/756291/20 "2016-06-02T23:29:04Z")
I can’t say they are making it more porny until there’s a significant change in the talent competition portion. 😃 When the batons keep coming out but aren’t being twirled we’ll know. > [@Tangent](#): > > But she’s hot! Only with the mute button on. > [@spifflog](#): > > But, but . . . it’s a scholarship pageant!!! …and they are clearly helping the most needy!!! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-is-it-me-or-is-fox-making-the-miss-usa-pagent-look-porny/756291.md?page=2)