# Wow really confused **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [January 28, 2005, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-really-confused/287194 "2005-01-28T22:21:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-really-confused/287194/41 "2005-02-01T03:32:06Z")
Not really. We have enough knee-jerk reactionaries here, as is. I’m not trying to slam her or anything but the whole “Screw this, I’m above paying!” mentality’s a bit of a put-off when she never even gave the board a chance. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-really-confused/287194/42 "2005-02-01T03:53:47Z")
No, not at all. Given the history (and large-scale current behavior) of the 'net having an initial response of ‘no way’ to pay-to-play is perfectly reasonable. And, given what most of the 'net looks like I completely agree: it’s not worth the money. But not here, folks. It’s worth it to be here just because the adults-to-juveniles ratio is so damn HIGH compared to the rest of the world. So don’t give people even a little hard time. They’re just reacting through what the history is. And it takes time for this place to sell itself. ---
**Author:** ![Spongemom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Spongemom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spongemom)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-really-confused/287194/43 "2005-02-01T03:59:45Z")
She’s on another message board that she asked me to join…I sent her a PM linking to this thread but I haven’t gotten an answer yet. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-really-confused/287194/44 "2005-02-01T04:09:17Z")
> [@Jonathan Chance](#): > > So don’t give people even a little hard time. They’re just reacting through what the history is. And it takes time for this place to sell itself. Having that reaction is perfectly understandable but what I am objecting to is the manner in which she expressed it as she created an account, immediately demanded to know why she should have to pay to keep it, and, looking at her profile, hasn’t even been back since twelve hours after her last post, three days ago. It comes off as very conceited. ---
**Author:** ![Tenar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@Tenar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenar)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-really-confused/287194/45 "2005-02-01T04:19:48Z")
Well, I will admit to being somewhat put-off myself, but I figured I would try to keep an open mind about it. Actually, I was impressed by the number of posters who tried to explain what’s what rather than just saying “Sorry you feel that way. Now go take a hike.” Also, since this ATMB, I assumed that discretion was the better part of valor. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-really-confused/287194/46 "2005-02-01T04:23:12Z")
> [@Spongemom](#): > > She’s on another message board that she asked me to join…I sent her a PM linking to this thread but I haven’t gotten an answer yet. Which one? 🙂 I know her (I’m the one that brought her here), and her and I go on many other boards. ---
**Author:** ![Spongemom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Spongemom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spongemom)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-really-confused/287194/47 "2005-02-01T04:55:47Z")
> [@Idle Thoughts](#): > > Which one? 🙂 > > I know her (I’m the one that brought her here), and her and I go on many other boards. [http://damagemb.com/index.php](http://damagemb.com/index.php) ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-really-confused/287194/48 "2005-02-01T13:25:41Z")
> [@Spongemom](#): > > [http://damagemb.com/index.php](http://damagemb.com/index.php) I cruised through that other board and it appears that she started most of the threads there. :dubious: I’m surprised that she even had the time to post here. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-really-confused/287194/49 "2005-02-01T14:18:08Z")
Truly, the value of this message board is the people. If you just wandered in a day or so ago you’re not going to be able to fully appreciate that yet, so you should give it some more time. Pretty much, for just about anything you want to know, there’s someone here who can tell you the answer. I’ve even gotten some answers to work related questions, myself. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-really-confused/287194/50 "2005-02-01T18:25:44Z")
> [@Jonathan Chance](#): > > No, not at all. Given the history (and large-scale current behavior) of the 'net having an initial response of ‘no way’ to pay-to-play is perfectly reasonable. And, given what most of the 'net looks like I completely agree: it’s not worth the money. > > But not here, folks. It’s worth it to be here just because the adults-to-juveniles ratio is so damn HIGH compared to the rest of the world. > > So don’t give people even a little hard time. They’re just reacting through what the history is. And it takes time for this place to sell itself. I think I agree with **JC** with one proviso – substitute “Maturity Level” for “adults-to-juveniles ratio.” The overwhelming majority of our teenage complement falls into one of two categories: (A) Emotional and intellectual maturity beyond their years, and ability to participate in intelligent adult discussions as an equal; or (B) Young and relatively naive but bright and **willing and eager to learn**. And that carries over into the “have reached legal and chronological adulthood” level – the community tends to sluff off those who are unwilling to distinguish between their own prejudices and what rational discourse will provide, and those who are unwilling to accept others different than themselves as their equals, with equal rights and equally privileged to hold opinions different than their own. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-really-confused/287194/51 "2005-02-02T14:00:32Z")
I humbly accept correction, Poly. That’s what I meant, of course…that we’re short on the ‘LEET!’ sort of juvenile and have a very high ratio of ‘seekers of knowledge’ and ‘lovers of discussion’. And God bless us, everyone. I’d go mad without this place. ---
**Author:** ![Konstantine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f475e1/32.png) [@Konstantine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Konstantine)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-really-confused/287194/52 "2005-02-02T23:06:30Z")
I’m sort of surprised that this topic is still going on. While this site is nice and I’m flattered that all of you want me to stay, I might. I’m just hoping someone will like me enough to want to pay for my subscription. Heh. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-really-confused/287194/53 "2005-02-03T00:10:16Z")
Go [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=245878) and ask for someone to pay for you. They most likely will. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-really-confused/287194/54 "2005-02-03T00:58:00Z")
I would if I had the money, Kel. But mine was paid for as well. ---
**Author:** ![Flamsterette\_X](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/41988e/32.png) [@Flamsterette\_X](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flamsterette_X)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-really-confused/287194/55 "2005-02-04T00:56:47Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > **Konstantine** , before this board went pay, we were having server outages and lag time like you wouldn’t believe. Trust me, the pay to post was needed. > > And it’s not like this is the only place to charge. Something Awful has a subscription fee, doesn’t it? (Good god, I can’t imagine what their bandwidth and server fees are like!) I think it’s a $9.95 lifetime fee, providing you don’t get banned or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![LookingAround](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@LookingAround](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LookingAround)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-really-confused/287194/56 "2005-02-06T05:48:00Z")
I don’t know if this is the proper place for this but, I want to subscribe to this forum. I have never and will never pay online, where can I send a check/money order/cash to become a member? This may seem odd considering I run an internet company that tells customers everyday how secure our tobacco site online is, but I cannot do it myself. I like it here, though it seems a lot more people lean left then my right, its the only place I can read intelligent arguments rather then spewing of the fingers. Another plus is if I rejoin the service I can have a place to vent 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-really-confused/287194/57 "2005-02-06T06:05:27Z")
I’m not sure I followed that about the spewing of the fingers, but I could pay your fees online and you could reimburse me via check or MO. [aside] When you eat in restaurants or purchase items in stores with a credit card, do you let them see your credit card number?[/aside] ---
**Author:** ![LookingAround](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@LookingAround](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LookingAround)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-really-confused/287194/58 "2005-02-06T06:22:15Z")
> [@AHunter3](#): > > I’m not sure I followed that about the spewing of the fingers, but I could pay your fees online and you could reimburse me via check or MO. > > [aside] When you eat in restaurants or purchase items in stores with a credit card, do you let them see your credit card number?[/aside] I need your address, I will send you the MO sometime this week. When you get it let me know so I can change my nickname before you create my account, that would be appreciated. Obviously I would no longer be LookingAround. [dills@REMOVETHISjohnstowns.com](mailto:dills@REMOVETHISjohnstowns.com) is my email your address as well as email address will be kept confidential and deleted after the transaction goes through. As for your aside, for the most part I don’t have to worry about that because most places I frequent for shopping allow you to use the card machine yourself. As for eating out, its against my wifes wishes to eat out, and no I am not joking long story but shortened, years ago someone messed with her food, so I haven’t ate out since we where married. (But yes sometimes I sneak a McD’s or something while on the go) ---
**Author:** ![LookingAround](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@LookingAround](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LookingAround)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-really-confused/287194/59 "2005-02-06T06:23:39Z")
Add on : Spewing of the fingers too me is much like spewing of the mouth, throwing out garbage to try to make a point. But with a keyboard. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-really-confused/287194/60 "2005-02-06T18:00:11Z")
> [@](#): > > When you get it let me know so I can change my nickname before you create my account, that would be appreciated. Obviously I would no longer be LookingAround. This is not possible. However, it is possible for another member to turn your account into a paid account. So you wouldn’t need to do anything; just keep on using the same account you have been the same way you have been. I presume that **AHunter3** knows how to do this, since he made the offer. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-really-confused/287194.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-really-confused/287194.md?page=4)