# WOW! Romney says he paid at least 13%. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 17, 2012, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-romney-says-he-paid-at-least-13/631745 "2012-08-17T03:49:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-romney-says-he-paid-at-least-13/631745/121 "2012-08-18T03:23:28Z")
And keep your distance. ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-romney-says-he-paid-at-least-13/631745/122 "2012-08-18T03:31:13Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I guess I don’t much care if Congressgits are rich, so long as they were rich when they got there. If they amass millions of bucks while working for me for $165K/yr I’m inclined to be bit pissy about it. So you agree that Dems take as much advantage of this “rich” thing as Pubs? ---
**Author:** ![AlienVessels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@AlienVessels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlienVessels)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-romney-says-he-paid-at-least-13/631745/123 "2012-08-18T03:32:38Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > He did nothing criminal. He did nothing wrong. > > You want him and other to pay more? Fine. Get all over your Congresscritters and work to get the 16th Amendment repealed and the Fair Tax implemented. I think he did wrong and avoided being a criminal by taking the amnesty deal. The “Fair Tax” is stupid and repealing the 16th a fringe element pipe dream that is nonsense as well. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-romney-says-he-paid-at-least-13/631745/124 "2012-08-18T03:36:20Z")
[QUOTE=Klaatu] As an independant. I want Obama to explain what he has done to help the country in the last four years, and what he will do if reelected. I want Romney to explain what he will do if elected. I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THE FUCKING ISSUES!!! [/QUOTE] How can we get _ **Klaatu** _ to moderate a debate? Do we need to kidnap Jim Lehrer or Bob Schieffer? I’d love to see him cut off the candidates as they were starting to veer off into their rehersed pet soundbites with "Hey, _douchbag_ … shut UP and get BACK to the FUCKING _ISSUES!!!"_ ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-romney-says-he-paid-at-least-13/631745/125 "2012-08-18T03:36:36Z")
> [@AlienVessels](#): > > I think he did wrong and avoided being a criminal by taking the amnesty deal. > > The “Fair Tax” is stupid and repealing the 16th a fringe element pipe dream that is nonsense as well. I think some of the richest democrats in Congress did wrong and avoided being criminals by taking the amnesty deal.:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-romney-says-he-paid-at-least-13/631745/126 "2012-08-18T03:39:17Z")
Yeah, OK. its my turn, I’ll ask… Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-romney-says-he-paid-at-least-13/631745/127 "2012-08-18T03:42:15Z")
> [@digs](#): > > How can we get _ **Klaatu** _ to moderate a debate? Do we need to kidnap Jim Lehrer or Bob Schieffer? > > I’d love to see him cut off the candidates as they were starting to veer off into their rehersed pet soundbites with "Hey, _douchbag_ … shut UP and get BACK to the FUCKING _ISSUES!!!"_ Yep, it would be nice to see moderators with some balls these days. ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-romney-says-he-paid-at-least-13/631745/128 "2012-08-18T03:43:56Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Yeah, OK. its my turn, I’ll ask… Cite? Are you talking to me? Cite for what? A thought? Are you drunk? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-romney-says-he-paid-at-least-13/631745/129 "2012-08-18T04:58:29Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > He did nothing criminal. He did nothing wrong. The last time I saw blind worship like this, it was from _ **Starving Artist** _. He was defending Joe Paterno and Jerry Sandusky. I wonder if Clothy’ll feel any pangs of conscience if he, too, has to eat his words… ---
**Author:** ![AlienVessels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@AlienVessels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlienVessels)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-romney-says-he-paid-at-least-13/631745/130 "2012-08-18T05:20:15Z")
> [@Klaatu](#): > > I think some of the richest democrats in Congress did wrong and avoided being criminals by taking the amnesty deal.:rolleyes: Then Romney should demonstrate his leadership skills, show his and demand they show theirs. He doesn’t have it in him. There’s no there there. ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-romney-says-he-paid-at-least-13/631745/131 "2012-08-18T05:50:48Z")
> [@AlienVessels](#): > > Then Romney should demonstrate his leadership skills, show his and demand they show theirs. > > He doesn’t have it in him. There’s no there there. No, Obama should show his transcripts too, and I agree. But how far is this bullshit gonna go? Come on man, seriously where does this lead to? ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-romney-says-he-paid-at-least-13/631745/132 "2012-08-18T05:52:14Z")
Should Congress pass some kind of full disclosure law? I am seriously asking ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-romney-says-he-paid-at-least-13/631745/133 "2012-08-18T05:56:56Z")
Are you guys actually afraid his college transcripts would be damaging in some way? What is the argument there? “Well, it doesn’t matter if the prez missed half his classes and had a D average as opposed to Romney being a big time tax cheat failing grades aren’t against the law” Where in the fuck is the line drawn? ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-romney-says-he-paid-at-least-13/631745/134 "2012-08-18T06:00:22Z")
This is petty fucking bullshit on both sides and like i said it’s fucking disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![AlienVessels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@AlienVessels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlienVessels)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-romney-says-he-paid-at-least-13/631745/135 "2012-08-18T06:05:47Z")
> [@Klaatu](#): > > No, Obama should show his transcripts too, and I agree. But how far is this bullshit gonna go? Come on man, seriously where does this lead to? Seriously, if Romney didn’t run on the basis of his dad’s achievements, maybe his poor reflection of his father’s disclosure of 12 years of taxes might not look so bad. But Romney keeps playing that game. He touts the history that qualifies him and then complains when that history is examined. If you can show me that transcripts have a long precedence of disclosure, I might be persuaded he needs to disclose them. And you “seriously” ask where this leads to in the context of a political climate where birther nonsense STILL has traction? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-romney-says-he-paid-at-least-13/631745/136 "2012-08-18T06:08:49Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I guess I don’t much care if Congressgits are rich, so long as they were rich when they got there. If they amass millions of bucks while working for me for $165K/yr I’m inclined to be bit pissy about it. [I certainly hope this doesn’t cause you such concern as to ruin your night.](http://nevadanewsandviews.com/archives/2975) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-romney-says-he-paid-at-least-13/631745/137 "2012-08-18T06:18:30Z")
Why, no, I always welcome a change of subject, especially if you find this one uncomfortable. ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-romney-says-he-paid-at-least-13/631745/138 "2012-08-18T06:24:26Z")
> [@AlienVessels](#): > > Seriously, if Romney didn’t run on the basis of his dad’s achievements, maybe his poor reflection of his father’s disclosure of 12 years of taxes might not look so bad. But Romney keeps playing that game. He touts the history that qualifies him and then complains when that history is examined. > > If you can show me that transcripts have a long precedence of disclosure, I might be persuaded he needs to disclose them. > > And you “seriously” ask where this leads to in the context of a political climate where birther nonsense STILL has traction? When it comes down to it, Romney doesn’t have to release shit, and neither does Obama. I am not hearing a goddamn thing from either of em about how we can get the country back on track. Just partisan bullshit and “I got shit on you” and “I got shit on you” I wish there was an alternative to both. This is the lamest, most vicious, not addressing the issues campaign on both sides I have seen in my lifetime. They both FUCKING SUCK! President “Civility” has become President “I don’t care what we say or do to get re-elected” Romney has his rich head up his ass, and will never connect with people like me. None of the above. At least Johnson wants to legalize weed. ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-romney-says-he-paid-at-least-13/631745/139 "2012-08-18T07:01:32Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I guess I don’t much care if Congressgits are rich, so long as they were rich when they got there. If they amass millions of bucks while working for me for $165K/yr I’m inclined to be bit pissy about it. Luci, you struck me as being a bit disconcerted after hearing that of the top ten richest Congresscriiters seven of them were dems. I didn’t know that but certainly you didn’t. Not a witty comeback or refutation. Seemed to knock you off your usual game. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-romney-says-he-paid-at-least-13/631745/140 "2012-08-18T09:49:59Z")
None of my transcripts show attendance, just grades. Why are people all up in arms about Obama’s transcripts? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-romney-says-he-paid-at-least-13/631745.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-romney-says-he-paid-at-least-13/631745.md?page=8)