# Wow so the scotus and the GOP has proclaimed the us a theocracy? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 29, 2022, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-so-the-scotus-and-the-gop-has-proclaimed-the-us-a-theocracy/967085 "2022-06-29T03:50:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-so-the-scotus-and-the-gop-has-proclaimed-the-us-a-theocracy/967085/1 "2022-06-29T03:50:35Z")
not counting the recent abortion decisions this crap has me worried … first this jackassness : > **[Boebert says she is ‘tired’ of separation between church and state: ‘The...](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/boebert-says-she-is-tired-of-separation-between-church-and-state-the-church-is-supposed-to-direct-the-government/ar-AAYWZlj?ocid=BingHp05&cvid=5e3ad2d59efc4339cb68e1fb592af06e)** > > Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) says she is “tired” of the long-standing separation between church and state in the U.S., adding that she believes “the church is supposed to direct … Amd then this: > **[Neil Gorsuch to Non-Christian Kids Who Don’t Want Prayer in Public School:...](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/neil-gorsuch-to-non-christian-kids-who-don-t-want-prayer-in-public-school-get-over-it/ar-AAYXUsY?ocid=BingHp05&cvid=5e3ad2d59efc4339cb68e1fb592af06e)** > > Religious minorities do not matter to this Supreme Court. maybe some of these doom and gloom threads are right ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-so-the-scotus-and-the-gop-has-proclaimed-the-us-a-theocracy/967085/2 "2022-06-29T04:42:26Z")
I’m far less worried about this than the overthrow of _Roe_ and the looming threat of permanent Republican takeover after this November. Prayer is ultimately (as long as participation isn’t demanded) like teaching any other perspective. It’s actually nowhere near as infectious as its partisans seem to think it is. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-so-the-scotus-and-the-gop-has-proclaimed-the-us-a-theocracy/967085/3 "2022-06-29T04:53:25Z")
Approximately 1/5 of Americans are Catholic, but 2/3 of the justices are. The five other than Sotomayor are post-Roe, John-Paul/Ratzinger conservative resurgence Catholics. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-so-the-scotus-and-the-gop-has-proclaimed-the-us-a-theocracy/967085/4 "2022-06-29T06:59:02Z")
> [@AHunter3](#): > > (as long as participation isn’t demanded) I have some bad news for you. ---
**Author:** ![Napier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-so-the-scotus-and-the-gop-has-proclaimed-the-us-a-theocracy/967085/5 "2022-06-29T12:41:39Z")
> [@AHunter3](#): > > Prayer is ultimately (as long as participation isn’t demanded) like teaching any other perspective. I disagree strongly. The perspective of prayer is that supernatural forces rule the universe and are amenable to human appeals, and there are rewards and punishment in an unverifiable infinite afterlife based on adherence to religious rules, and the claimed will of a supernatural being is more important than the joy and suffering of all living creatures. There aren’t any other perspectives with anything like this priority. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-so-the-scotus-and-the-gop-has-proclaimed-the-us-a-theocracy/967085/6 "2022-06-29T12:50:33Z")
> [@Napier](#): > > I disagree strongly. The perspective of prayer is that supernatural forces rule the universe and are amenable to human appeals, and there are rewards and punishment in an unverifiable infinite afterlife based on adherence to religious rules, and the claimed will of a supernatural being is more important than the joy and suffering of all living creatures. I only disagree mildly. I don’t think the latter portion of your posts is part and parcel of prayer, but I agree that its premise is that supernatural forces rule the universe and are amenable to human appeals. If you don’t believe that’s what you’re appealing to, then you’re simply reflecting or meditating. ---
**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-so-the-scotus-and-the-gop-has-proclaimed-the-us-a-theocracy/967085/7 "2022-06-29T13:08:38Z")
Bring back the Inquisition. Heretics should wear a sackcloth with a single eyehole over their heads. Heretics who refused to conform can be burned at the stake. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-so-the-scotus-and-the-gop-has-proclaimed-the-us-a-theocracy/967085/8 "2022-06-29T13:13:35Z")
> [@nightshadea](#): > > maybe some of these doom and gloom threads are right Next time listen to us. I’m just kidding, there won’t be a next time, it’s over. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-so-the-scotus-and-the-gop-has-proclaimed-the-us-a-theocracy/967085/9 "2022-06-29T13:54:49Z")
According to Barbra Streisand, the SCOTUS is now the “American Taliban”. I totally agree. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-so-the-scotus-and-the-gop-has-proclaimed-the-us-a-theocracy/967085/10 "2022-06-30T05:05:35Z")
> [@AHunter3](#): > > Prayer is ultimately (as long as participation isn’t demanded) like teaching any other perspective. It’s actually nowhere near as infectious as its partisans seem to think it is. Unless they force all the kids in the classroom to say the words out loud, nobody can tell if they are praying or making out a grocery list … I look upon forced prayer exactly like a loyalty oath - mouthing words don’t make them true. [If I were an early christian, I would happily burn incense, step on a cross, whatever they want to prove I am pagan and not christian. No skin off my ass to let people think what they like. I am an agnostic, but most people I have ever worked with believed I was as christian as they were.] ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-so-the-scotus-and-the-gop-has-proclaimed-the-us-a-theocracy/967085/11 "2022-06-30T05:12:21Z")
If the Scotus had proclaimed the U.S. a theocracy the abortion decision would have been quite different: it would have declared abortion to be murder and anyone involved would be guilty of homicide. ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-so-the-scotus-and-the-gop-has-proclaimed-the-us-a-theocracy/967085/12 "2022-06-30T06:47:32Z")
It’s a christian theocracy Junta. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-so-the-scotus-and-the-gop-has-proclaimed-the-us-a-theocracy/967085/13 "2022-06-30T07:34:36Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > If the Scotus had proclaimed the U.S. a theocracy the abortion decision would have been quite different: it would have declared abortion to be murder and anyone involved would be guilty of homicide like texas and the south trying to do? ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-so-the-scotus-and-the-gop-has-proclaimed-the-us-a-theocracy/967085/14 "2022-06-30T11:08:25Z")
> [@AHunter3](#): > > Prayer is ultimately (as long as participation isn’t demanded) like teaching any other perspective. It’s actually nowhere near as infectious as its partisans seem to think it is. What if you [lose your job for not participating?](https://www.newsweek.com/employees-fired-refusing-attend-mandatory-prayer-meetings-lawsuit-north-carolina-1720422?amp=1)