# Wow, the Boeing 777's been involved in lots of recent incidents.

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**Created:** [September 9, 2015, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-the-boeing-777s-been-involved-in-lots-of-recent-incidents/730415 "2015-09-09T05:55:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-the-boeing-777s-been-involved-in-lots-of-recent-incidents/730415/21 "2015-09-09T23:25:10Z")

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In case clarification is needed:  
At no point in the OP have I blamed the 777 aircraft for all the incidents; in fact I have specified that there were incidents in which humans were at fault, not the aircraft and I also stated that if the 777’s reputation as a safe aircraft has recently been marred, it is “unfairly so.”  
I’m simply pointing out that after a near-perfect decade or more of service, the aircraft’s suddenly been involved in a number of incidents.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-the-boeing-777s-been-involved-in-lots-of-recent-incidents/730415/22 "2015-09-09T23:41:36Z")

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Putting aside rogue SAM operators as something entirely outside the usual risk assessment, I imagine it can be a matter that probabilities catching up has happened in a small cluster rather than spread out. ( IIRC the DC10 had a streak of catastrophic failures early in its career and then settled into a pretty normal service record.) Like I said, I would have expected something to have happened earlier.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-the-boeing-777s-been-involved-in-lots-of-recent-incidents/730415/23 "2015-09-10T02:07:50Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> It wasn’t long ago that the Boeing 777 was regarded as one of the safest airplanes in the world. And it arguably still is one of the safest.
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> But then the EgyptAir Boeing 777 cockpit fire, British Airways Boeing 777 engine mishap in 2008, Asiana crash at San Francisco, MH370 disappearance, MH17 shootdown has affected that reputation. And now a British Airways Boeing 777 just caught fire at Las Vegas…

Hey, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

Don’t get up, I’ll let myself out.

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-the-boeing-777s-been-involved-in-lots-of-recent-incidents/730415/24 "2015-09-10T02:53:12Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> I’m simply pointing out that after a near-perfect decade or more of service, the aircraft’s suddenly been involved in a number of incidents.

Confirmation bias.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-the-boeing-777s-been-involved-in-lots-of-recent-incidents/730415/25 "2015-09-10T13:35:39Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> How did British Airways end up with 777s with two different engine manufacturers?

Different batches of aircraft ordered at different times for different route lengths and different passenger counts. BA was traditionally a Rolls customer, even after denationalization, but GE gave them an unbeatable deal on their first 777’s in what appeared to be an attempt to drive RR out of business. That effort failed, and RR was able to get back on (with some political pressure) for later batches with different requirements.

BTW, it would be statistically\* im\*probable for incidents to be evenly distributed. Some clumping \*should \*be expected.

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