# WoW: Wrath of the Lich King!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 13, 2008, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king/472513 "2008-11-13T10:06:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king/472513/61 "2008-11-14T22:33:46Z")
DK’s don’t have a hearthstone now, at first. You get Death Gate, which is a spell that opens a gate to Acherus for you to train and use the Runeforge. To get a hearthstone you have to bind to an Inn. ---
**Author:** ![UnwrittenNocturne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/6de8d8/32.png) [@UnwrittenNocturne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwrittenNocturne)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king/472513/62 "2008-11-16T19:42:27Z")
I want to add: the questline (horde side) that leads to you running in with Sylvanas and Thrall to save Undercity may just be my new favourite. Great cut-scene as well. ---
**Author:** ![Cerowyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/82dd89/32.png) [@Cerowyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerowyn)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king/472513/63 "2008-11-16T22:42:21Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > I’m assuming that’s just the flight points in kalimdor/eastern kingdoms, right? Yup, there’s a flight master that you have to visit in the harbor you arrive at in Northland. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king/472513/64 "2008-11-16T23:53:10Z")
I’m really enjoying the little bit of time I’ve had to play WotLK, but I’m NOT enjoying waiting in queues to log in. I haven’t had a queue on Khaz Modan in a year, and now I’m number 200 or 300 in the queue when I log in. Riding the harpoon across the harbor was a cool quest. > [@rockle](#): > > I’m in no big hurry, and frankly, I will cherish the relative dearth of 12-year-old dorks spamming the chat channels in Shattrath with their [anal] and [murloc] and [Chuck Norris] jokes. (That these “jokes” are unfunny goes without saying, I presume.) I found that if they do that in trade and they don’t stop when asked politely, the best thing to do is report them for spamming. That adds them to a special ignore list of unlimited size. I did that for a week, and trade chat is actually useful for me now. ---
**Author:** ![Runestar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@Runestar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Runestar)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king/472513/65 "2008-11-17T02:00:42Z")
Yeah, I’m not thrilled about having to queue to log in either, but IIRC the same thing happened when Burning Crusade launched (which was what; 18 months or so ago?). What’s funny is how empty places like Ironforge and Stormwind suddenly got (at least of 68+ level characters). ---
**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king/472513/66 "2008-11-17T02:40:48Z")
> [@InvisibleWombat](#): > > I’m really enjoying the little bit of time I’ve had to play WotLK, but I’m NOT enjoying waiting in queues to log in. I haven’t had a queue on Khaz Modan in a year, and now I’m number 200 or 300 in the queue when I log in. \ I _wish_ that was the case on my server. During peak times, the queue has been as high as 1200. Generally that means 30-45 minute wait time. Not fun at all. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king/472513/67 "2008-11-17T12:38:49Z")
> [@Athena](#): > > \ I _wish_ that was the case on my server. During peak times, the queue has been as high as 1200. > > Generally that means 30-45 minute wait time. Not fun at all. I must have the _lamest server on Earth_, because I have had no wait _at all_ at any point. I even managed to level, which is funny, because it took me like three weeks to get to 70, and I got to 71 in three days. (Don’t expect that to continue, though, because I am a terrible, _terrible_ mage and spend most of my time having tea with the Spirit Healer.) My biggest complaint so far is about the “dynamic respawn” of mobs – things that want to eat me keep spawning right on my head. Not cool. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king/472513/68 "2008-11-17T14:35:01Z")
A year or so ago, I mentioned in guild chat “I weep for the lost end-game content of Azeroth.” Now, I weep for the lost end-game content of Burning Crusade. Level 68’s can adventure in Northrend, and fairly easily. You need to be a little more careful and keep an eye out for mobs that like to gang up on you, but otherwise, the rewards are more than worth the risk. So I’ve got some characters that aren’t 68 yet. They’re going to get levelled up eventually, and my plan for them once they reach Outland is: Level. No rep grind, no instancing, no primal gear, certainly no raiding. No heroics. Just get to 68 so they can hop down to Northrend and get to the “real” game. Archimonde is going to get very, very lonely, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king/472513/69 "2008-11-17T14:47:58Z")
RE: end game content. Thus is the way of the world. I can’t think of a way to both provide new content and preserve the old at the same level of excitement, can you? And the old content doesn’t really go away, it just gets done in a different way. Have you ever taken your level 70 through Strat? It’s pretty fun to solo that instance that used to take 5 peeps a couple hours to run through. I have a friend who farms the Baron because she’s dying to get that rare mount he drops. So it’s not like there’s no reason to do the old instances, there’s just different reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king/472513/70 "2008-11-17T15:30:39Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > My biggest complaint so far is about the “dynamic respawn” of mobs – things that want to eat me keep spawning right on my head. Not cool. I thought the ultimate was when I was fighting a mob on top of _two_ of his own body. But then my son took down a mob last night, and _it respawned before its body even hit the ground_. That’s just insane. ---
**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king/472513/71 "2008-11-17T16:27:41Z")
Yeah, the fast respawns kill my skweeshy little gnome mage a lot… On the other hand… DALARAN! Yay! Oh. My. Word. So much for me to waste my money on (my pet chicken has a leash, some toys to play with, and a grooming kit now. I have paper zepplins, toy monkeys, and a race car!) Anyone have 2400 spare gold so I can learn Polymorph: Black Cat? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king/472513/72 "2008-11-17T17:10:41Z")
So how are you folks handling professions as a Death Knight? I wound up leveling one through the starting area and am currently dorking around with the quests that you get after (like go the Plagueland and such) but notice that I have no profession. Is my seriously badass hulking pile of blue geared bad news going to have to go to lowbie areas to skin boars and mine copper (or pick Peacebloom)? Awkward. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king/472513/73 "2008-11-17T17:43:51Z")
> [@Binarydrone](#): > > So how are you folks handling professions as a Death Knight? Personally, by not handling it. I’m keeping up on my First Aid (even though I very rarely need to bandage- Blood FTW!), but I’m not willing to cruise the lowbie areas for remedial Enchanting or whatever. And I’m certainly not going to buy the low-level reagents in the auction house until I have my epic flying mount. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king/472513/74 "2008-11-17T18:03:06Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > Personally, by not handling it. I’m keeping up on my First Aid (even though I very rarely need to bandage- Blood FTW!), but I’m not willing to cruise the lowbie areas for remedial Enchanting or whatever. And I’m certainly not going to buy the low-level reagents in the auction house until I have my epic flying mount. Seems like enchanting/tailoring would be pretty quick to level up. Just run rfc solo a bunch of times killing everything that drops cloth, then repeat with some other place (gnomeregan maybe?) for wool and higher-level greens and blues. Irritating, but frankly no more irritating than what I’ve had to do to get my blacksmithing to catch up with my mining. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king/472513/75 "2008-11-17T18:12:09Z")
> [@Binarydrone](#): > > So how are you folks handling professions as a Death Knight? I’m not. More to the point, what do you all think of death knights overall? I love the story arc, and the quests are cool, but unless I’m really missing something, the class itself doesn’t seem to have the strategy and complexity of some of the others. Granted, I’ve only played mine up one level, so I don’t have much from the talent tree yet, but I haven’t encountered a situation with my death knight yet where I wouldn’t have been happier with my mage, priest, or warrior. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king/472513/76 "2008-11-17T18:24:36Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Seems like enchanting/tailoring would be pretty quick to level up. Just run rfc solo a bunch of times killing everything that drops cloth, then repeat with some other place (gnomeregan maybe?) for wool and higher-level greens and blues. Irritating, but frankly no more irritating than what I’ve had to do to get my blacksmithing to catch up with my mining. umm… why on earth would a death knight need tailoring? Bags are cheap on the auction house… I’m currently considering engineering, alchemy and maybe jewelcrafting, but I really need to research the end-game BOP craftables. I’ve already got all the professions covered on my alts, so the DK is going to be aiming specifically for the BOP stuff, and the buffs (like alchemists getting a double effect from potions–4-hour flasks, anyone?). ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king/472513/77 "2008-11-17T18:51:34Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > umm… why on earth would a death knight need tailoring? Bags are cheap on the auction house… Solely to turn cloth into disenchant fodder, so your 8-9 stacks of linen from a rfc run turn into 40 pieces of magic dust. Or thereabouts. ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king/472513/78 "2008-11-17T19:04:12Z")
> [@InvisibleWombat](#): > > I’m not. > > More to the point, what do you all think of death knights overall? I love the story arc, and the quests are cool, but unless I’m really missing something, the class itself doesn’t seem to have the strategy and complexity of some of the others. Granted, I’ve only played mine up one level, so I don’t have much from the talent tree yet, but I haven’t encountered a situation with my death knight yet where I wouldn’t have been happier with my mage, priest, or warrior. At the moment I am pretty impressed. I thought that the starting area was brilliant and well thought out and (I know that this is petty) but I love that all of my gear matches. In the long run I have a feeling that I will go back to my Mage main or go back to leveling my Paladin because I am pretty sure that I am stupid over powered. But I love the new content and new way of doing things. But I still think that I am going to have to go to lowbie areas for a while to level _something_. Herbs are going for crazy money in the AH on my server right now. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king/472513/79 "2008-11-17T19:27:44Z")
> [@Binarydrone](#): > > In the long run I have a feeling that I will go back to my Mage main or go back to leveling my Paladin because I am pretty sure that I am stupid over powered. They certainly seem to be, don’t they? I’m at level 61 now, in the Outlands, and I haven’t died yet. I haven’t even come close, as far as PvE goes. The only time I came close to dying was when there was a level 70+ Horde Paladin going through the Hellfire Plateau area one-shotting everyone. I’m having a blast playing my Death Knight. That “get over here!” ability puts a smile on my face every time. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king/472513/80 "2008-11-17T19:33:41Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > They certainly seem to be, don’t they? I’m at level 61 now, in the Outlands, and I haven’t died yet. I haven’t even come close, as far as PvE goes. The only time I came close to dying was when there was a level 70+ Horde Paladin going through the Hellfire Plateau area one-shotting everyone. I don’t know if you tried playing a 60-something in Outlands after the pre-Wrath patch, but I at least found my experience (as a prot warrior) went from slow slow painful grind to knocking over everything in my path without much difficulty. So it might just be that BC is not as tough as it used to be. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king/472513.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king/472513.md?page=5)