# Wrestling Stuff

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wrestling-stuff/146794
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [January 5, 2003, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wrestling-stuff/146794 "2003-01-05T18:19:11Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Bubba\_Ray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Bubba\_Ray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bubba_Ray)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2003, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wrestling-stuff/146794/1 "2003-01-05T18:19:11Z")

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Since the ask the returning Troll thread is closed and I enjoyed talking about wrestling I just start another one.

@Hardygrrl

Yep the Funkster is amazing, going to scary with the stuff he does, not that I mind that Foley doesnt wreck himself further hy getting hurled through burning IKEA furniture anymore.

And for the Taker, yep he sells about as much as Hogan, but I am still a drooling fanboy when it comes to him.

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> Another poster wrote a touching story about the birth of Taker and Sara’s child. When the doctor spanked the baby, it didn’t cry. The proud father said “That’s my boy”

😃

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### Author: ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2003, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wrestling-stuff/146794/2 "2003-01-05T18:45:28Z")

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Topics for discussion :

\*\*Will Rob Van Dam ever be World Champion?

Just how disturbing are the Waltman/Laurer nuptials?  
Best feud? (I vote Dreamer/Raven in ECW)\*\*

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### Author: ![DarkJudicator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@DarkJudicator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DarkJudicator)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2003, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wrestling-stuff/146794/3 "2003-01-05T23:37:50Z")

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Is there a chapel in the world big enough to contain the volume of irritation and annoyance generated by Joanie Laurer and Sean Waltman being in the same room?

Never marry a man you could bench press… 😃

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### Author: ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2003, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wrestling-stuff/146794/4 "2003-01-06T01:24:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DarkJudicator \*  
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> Never marry a man you could bench press… 😃 \*\*

Ummm, he’d slip out of her grip and fall crashing to the floor. Not a bad thing.

Has Waltman ever **not** been greasy? Discuss

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### Author: ![diku](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4af34b/32.png) [@diku](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/diku)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2003, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wrestling-stuff/146794/5 "2003-01-06T01:28:40Z")

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All I know is, that chapel will be freezing, with the way Waltman can suck the heat out of a room…

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### Author: ![brianjedi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@brianjedi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brianjedi)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2003, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wrestling-stuff/146794/6 "2003-01-06T03:51:30Z")

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What’s the protocol for booing the groom at a wedding? Anyone know?

As for RVD, I’m really starting to question his ability to be a world champion. He can’t hold his own in a promo battle with guys like Booker T, Jericho, and even HHH. Maybe if the re-emergence of manager-types continues, they can get someone with him who can help him out, like Heyman did with Brock Lesnar.

As for best feud, I didn’t get to see enough of Raven/Dreamer to choose it (but I really respect Dreamer), so I’m going to say Booker T/Benoit for the WCW TV belt. Their best-of-7 series is something that Vince and the boys should look at for an example of how to build a feud just on workrate.

Here’s a question for discussion: is [411wrestling.com](http://411wrestling.com) the best wrestling website out there?

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### Author: ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2003, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wrestling-stuff/146794/7 "2003-01-06T05:33:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by brianjedi \*  
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> Here’s a question for discussion: is [411wrestling.com](http://411wrestling.com) the best wrestling website out there? \*\*

I think so…but I’m biased. 😃

Check the sig… and I do have Flea’s cell # as well…

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### Author: ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2003, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wrestling-stuff/146794/8 "2003-01-06T07:35:28Z")

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So much to respond to…

Aside from being an avid Trekker, wrestling’s my other passion. Yeah, I know it’s a weird combination. 🙂  
**On RVD being the World Champ:**

You maybe should’ve worded this differently… 'cause while I think RVD will eventually get the WWE Title, I think he’s going to remain a midcarder much like Kane Chris Jericho have. Alot of people don’t remember the former’s title run and the latter’s nothing more than an established Main Event Whipping Boy sadly.

A better question would be just when they’re finally going to give the freakin’ belt to Benoit. I doubt he’ll get it at the Rumble 'cause that’ll mess up the Angle/Lesnar feud but it’d be nice to see it happen nonetheless.  
**On Waltman/Laurer:**

I’m going to be berated by the people in this thread for this but I saw a recent picture of Laurer and… uh… well… she looked nice. Pretty hot, actually.

Yes, I’m heterosexual.  
**Best Feud:**

Currently, anything involving Angle. I am a huge fanboy. In the past, I’d have to go with Flair/Steamboat and Flair/Sting. Vader/Sting is also high on my list. I’m marks for them too. 🙂  
**Has Waltman ever not been greasy**

As the 1-2-3 Kid, he always looked like he’d just stepped out of the shower so yes. Once he grew the beard though… no.

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> As for RVD, I’m really starting to question his ability to be a world champion. He can’t hold his own in a promo battle with guys like Booker T, Jericho, and even HHH. Maybe if the re-emergence of manager-types continues, they can get someone with him who can help him out, like Heyman did with Brock Lesnar.

While I agree, I question your placement of Booker T in that list alongside Jericho. I’ll let the HHH comment go because you said “even HHH”.

If you’d included some of the A talent from SD! like the absent Rock, Edge, Angle, or Eddy… I could agree, but Booker? Gah… his whole ghetto schtick is horrendous. He’s really no better than Steiner.  
**Is [411wrestling.com](http://411wrestling.com) the best wrestling website out there?**

I’m weird in that I seem to prefer the Torch to all other wrestling websites. The only reason I ever go to 411 is that a friend of mine that I post with at another message board is a columnist there. Otherwise, I’m underwhelmed.

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### Author: ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2003, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wrestling-stuff/146794/9 "2003-01-06T07:37:14Z")

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Crap, I meant to add some questions of my own but got sidetracked by an IM.

Favorite federation(s)? Performer(s)? Wrestling style(s)?

How long have you been a fan?

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### Author: ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2003, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wrestling-stuff/146794/10 "2003-01-06T07:37:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Bubba Ray \*  
> **Yep the Funkster is amazing, going to scary with the stuff he does, not that I mind that Foley doesnt wreck himself further hy getting hurled through burning IKEA furniture anymore.**

Wait, did they come back, or are you guys just reminiscing?

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### Author: ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2003, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wrestling-stuff/146794/11 "2003-01-06T07:43:43Z")

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Foley’s retired, for sure. Funk probably still wrestles… he was active in WCW during its last year and probably went back to the indies or Japan when it was bought out by McMahon in March '01.

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### Author: ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2003, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wrestling-stuff/146794/12 "2003-01-06T13:06:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by hardygrrl \*  
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> Just how disturbing are the Waltman/Laurer nuptials?
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wait, I have been out of the loop. Hold the phone. Xpunk and vaChyna are getting married? For real? Please tell me this is a joke. _Big-Dramatic-Vincey-Gulp-of-Doom_ Dare I ask for a link?

God, we need that puking smiley more than ever.

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### Author: ![HomeSlice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9d8465/32.png) [@HomeSlice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HomeSlice)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2003, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wrestling-stuff/146794/13 "2003-01-06T13:18:37Z")

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I stopped watching wrestling when i was 20.

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### Author: ![Bubba\_Ray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Bubba\_Ray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bubba_Ray)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2003, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wrestling-stuff/146794/14 "2003-01-06T14:39:23Z")

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**Will Rob Van Dam ever be World Champion?**

I don’t thing so he isn’t too old and tired yet to make a good WWE world champ, I mean he is one of the best in business, but his style is just not WWE softcore.

**Just how disturbing are the Waltman/Laurer nuptials?**

9.2 on a scale of 10. But well when its love or so… Personally I fond X-Punk the weirder one in the marriage, and for the record he always looked like a dont do drugs posterchild.

**Best Match**

The first Hell in a Cell Undertaker vs. Mankind

**Wrestlers and Wannabes you want to see in a shot fight?**

Goldberg vs. Vader

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### Author: ![Ayesha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c0e974/32.png) [@Ayesha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ayesha)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2003, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wrestling-stuff/146794/15 "2003-01-06T14:52:17Z")

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No joke \*\* mouthbreather \*\* . I have to wonder what will happen with their first fight, will he kick her ass or will she kick his ? My money is on Chyna. Anybody wonder what their kids will look like ?

I’m not sure where to find a link to the story anymore, but Jim Ross mentioned it in the Ross Report on [wwe.com](http://wwe.com) a couple of weeks ago.

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### Author: ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2003, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wrestling-stuff/146794/16 "2003-01-06T16:05:49Z")

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I’d guess HHH will hold her down for Waltmann, just like the old days.

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### Author: ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2003, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wrestling-stuff/146794/17 "2003-01-06T17:49:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TwistofFate \*  
> \*\*I’d guess HHH will hold her down for Waltmann, just like the old days. \*\*

Now that’s a disturbing visual…  
And does Stephanie ever call out “Oh, TERRA!” in bed?

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### Author: ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2003, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wrestling-stuff/146794/18 "2003-01-06T18:52:47Z")

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\*Originally posted by hardygrrl \*  
**Will Rob Van Dam ever be World Champion?**

He’s a better draw as a contender, as his mic work isn’t good enough for the top spot.

**Just how disturbing are the Waltman/Laurer nuptials?**

Everytime I bury such thoughts deep in my mind, someone has to dig them back up.

**Best feud? (I vote Dreamer/Raven in ECW)**

Tommy Rich / Mad Dog Buzz Sawyer

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### Author: ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2003, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wrestling-stuff/146794/19 "2003-01-06T19:04:24Z")

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Some more comments:  
**Aesiron** , I don’t think Edge does that good of a promo either. My favorites are Flair, Flair, Flair (he takes the top three spots), Angle, E. Guerrero, Rock, Jericho, Booker T (when paired with Goldust), pre-WWE Raven, Shane Douglas. Dusty Rhodes, Jake Roberts and Roddy Piper are all on the All-Time Legends of Promo list.

**Best Match** My favorite is still Savage/Steamboat from Wrestlemania IV (?) or so.

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### Author: ![Sacrilegium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f05b48/32.png) [@Sacrilegium](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sacrilegium)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2003, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wrestling-stuff/146794/20 "2003-01-06T19:30:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ayesha \*  
> **I have to wonder what will happen with their first fight, will he kick her ass or will she kick his ? My money is on Chyna.**

I’d put my money on Waltman. I hear he can take care of himself (not on the level of Bad News Allen or Dynamite Kid, but respectable enough) and Laurer did lose a boxing match to Joey Buttafuco. IIRC, Waltman and Davey Boy Smith fought off the small gang that attacked Shawn Michaels in a parking lot a few years ago.

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> Will Rob Van Dam ever be World Champion?

In WWE? Possibly. I don’t think he’ll ever reach his full potential there, though. His in-ring work is the strength of his value and he’ll never be as good as he could be in that area in WWE. I’d rather see him in one of the Japanese promotions.

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> Best feud?

My favorite is Magnum T.A. vs Nikita Koloff for the U.S. Championship in '86.

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> Best match?

Manami Toyota vs Aja Kong at the Egg Dome, 1994. I’ve watched it a dozen times and I’m still amazed.
