# Writers Guild of America goes on strike (5/2/23) tentative deal (9/25/23) Now accepted (10/9/23)

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> You are the one who is treating it as a simple work-rate calculation when it will never be that simple.

> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> If that isn’t treating the process like a production line then I don’t know what is.

…I asked chatGPT to tell me about getting up in the morning.

> [@chatGPT](#):
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> **Step 1: Wake-Up Process**
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> - **Station 1:** Open your eyes, signaling the start of the day.
> - **Station 2:** Stretch and yawn to prepare your body for the day.
> - **Station 3:** Turn off the alarm clock to prevent any disruptions.
> - **Station 4:** Sit up in bed and swing your feet to the floor to move to the next station.
> 
> **Step 2: Dressing Procedure**
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> - **Station 5:** Enter the bathroom to begin dressing.
> - **Station 6:** Select and put on underwear and socks, ensuring proper alignment.
> - **Station 7:** Proceed to the closet or dresser and choose an outfit for the day.
> - **Station 8:** Dress from top to bottom, buttoning shirts or zipping up pants.
> - **Station 9:** Accessorize with belts, ties, or jewelry as needed.
> - **Station 10:** Check your appearance in the mirror to ensure a polished look.
> 
> **Step 3: Oral Hygiene Protocol**
> 
> - **Station 11:** Return to the bathroom for oral hygiene.
> - **Station 12:** Squeeze toothpaste onto your toothbrush.
> - **Station 13:** Brush your teeth thoroughly, including the gums and tongue.
> - **Station 14:** Rinse your mouth and toothbrush.
> - **Station 15:** Gargle with mouthwash, if desired.
> - **Station 16:** Wipe your face clean, ensuring no toothpaste residue remains.
> 
> **Step 4: Breakfast**
> 
> - **Station 17:** Proceed to the kitchen to prepare breakfast.
> - **Station 18:** Gather ingredients and utensils for your meal.
> - **Station 19:** Prepare your choice of breakfast food, whether it’s cereal, eggs, toast, or other options.
> - **Station 20:** Pour a beverage, such as coffee, tea, or juice.
> - **Station 21:** Set the table with utensils, plates, and napkins.
> - **Station 22:** Enjoy your breakfast and nourish your body for the day ahead.
> 
> **Step 5: Final Check and Exit**
> 
> - **Station 23:** Clear your breakfast dishes and place them in the sink or dishwasher.
> - **Station 24:** Quickly tidy up any clutter or mess in the kitchen.
> - **Station 25:** Double-check that you have everything you need for the day, such as keys, wallet, and phone.
> - **Station 26:** Exit your home and lock the door behind you, signaling the completion of your morning routine.

Gosh! It sounds like a production line!

> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> No, I didn’t. I said.

LOL. Yes. You said: “I look back at some of the great TV produced and see no correlation between a mandated minimum numbers of writers and how good or popular something is.” I’ll ask you the question again: when you looked back, what shows were you thinking about that had mandated minimum number of writers?

> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> The point being that, to the best of my knowledge, it was never a thing and yet great TV was produced.

You didn’t say “to the best of my knowledge, it was never a thing.” I quoted what you said. I stand by my response.

> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> So if the cost-benefits analysis is that stark, the studios will hire the extra resources anyway.

But the studios aren’t hiring the extra resources!

That’s the entire point!

For decades, writers rooms were staffed in the same way. Then the studios started to slash the numbers in the room. This impacted both the writing process and the writers in a number of different ways that I’ve patiently explained to you over and over again. The WGA thinks that the way to address this is to mandate the process that used to be standard-operating-procedure. So the minimums are on the table. They are up for negotiation. Its now in the AMPTP’s court.

> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> You don’t need to mandate it from the off.

Well you _do_ if the studios aren’t giving you enough staff in order to be able to do the job.

> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> I fail to see the benefit of mandating minimum numbers of writers.

:: surprised face ::

> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> If you do manadate minimums rather than putting in place working practice guidelines then you will still come up against deadline pushes and there is nothing to prevent those writers being exploited/overworked etc.

This isn’t an argument against anything I said. The WGA are well aware of the existence of this thing called a “deadline.” It’s a basic part of doing the job. Its the showrunners responsibility to manage the room, to prevent their writers from being exploited or being overworked.

And that _starts_ with having enough writers in the room to cope with the workload. You can’t do the job if you don’t have the staff.

> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> However, if you focus instead on putting in place the working guidelines then in the face of a deadline push the studio will hire the numbers they need in order to avoid the budget increase and also to remain within the scope of the working practice protections

What guidelines do you suggest? And why wouldn’t you both have these guidelines _and_ have mandatory minimum staffing? Because, as I’ve told you over and over and over again, there are _multiple_ reasons why minimums are on the table. Addressing just one of those reasons doesn’t mean the others top magically existing.

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