# WTC 7: reinforce my flagging skepticism or believe with me **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [February 27, 2007, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtc-7-reinforce-my-flagging-skepticism-or-believe-with-me/393872 "2007-02-27T14:43:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![LifeOnWry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/96bed5/32.png) [@LifeOnWry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LifeOnWry)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtc-7-reinforce-my-flagging-skepticism-or-believe-with-me/393872/21 "2007-02-27T17:07:38Z")
[QUOTE=Tabula Rasa] -“Is this the wrench you swallowed?” -“Yep.” -“This wrench? The one I’m holding?” -“Yep.” -“Where is it now?” -“In my tummy.” -“This wrench that I’m holding in my hand? It’s in your tummy?” -“Yep?” -“How did it get in your tummy?” -“In my dream. I swallowed it in my dream and now it’s in my tummy.” -“Why is it in my hand?” -“I don’t know.” [/QUOTE] Man, I LOVE little kids and the brain games they unknowingly inflict on their poor parents. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtc-7-reinforce-my-flagging-skepticism-or-believe-with-me/393872/22 "2007-02-27T17:19:03Z")
Why would you need a BBC news crew for your conspiracy anyway? Why would the evil overlords need to tell a reporter to go on the air with news that WTC 7 collapsed? Even if there was someone collapsing the building wouldn’t they just do it and let the hundreds of reporters and thousands of cameras report on it as it happened? Did they think no one would notice the building coming down? ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtc-7-reinforce-my-flagging-skepticism-or-believe-with-me/393872/23 "2007-02-27T17:23:57Z")
[QUOTE=Loach] Why would you need a BBC news crew for your conspiracy anyway? Why would the evil overlords need to tell a reporter to go on the air with news that WTC 7 collapsed? Even if there was someone collapsing the building wouldn’t they just do it and let the hundreds of reporters and thousands of cameras report on it as it happened? Did they think no one would notice the building coming down? [/QUOTE] All you’re doing is sticking your finger in the dike. Oh, this doesn’t add up. Put a finger in it. Wait, this doesn’t add up. Put a finger in it. Wait, _this_ doesn’t add up. Put a finger in it. Problem is, you only got so many fingers. ---
**Author:** ![Bobotheoptimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/919ad9/32.png) [@Bobotheoptimist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bobotheoptimist)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtc-7-reinforce-my-flagging-skepticism-or-believe-with-me/393872/24 "2007-02-27T17:31:08Z")
[QUOTE=Regallag\_The\_Axe] I’m with you. Someone at my old job sent me to his site to ‘prove’ that the government brought down the WTC. Incidentally, this was the same guy who thinks that lizard people run the government and the contrails you see behind jets are actually chemicals meant to make the earth warmer/make the population more docile for the alien take over. Also, in a conspiracy vast enough to involve the BBC _someone_ would have certainly talked by now. [/QUOTE] Wow, he gets around - I worked with him for a few years until he had to flee the coming of \ **The Twelfth Planet** The catacombs under DIA are nothing compared to the NREL/NOAA tunnels. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtc-7-reinforce-my-flagging-skepticism-or-believe-with-me/393872/25 "2007-02-27T17:33:56Z")
The BBC has been known to get the facts wrong from time to time: [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWAvHnfJsOQ) > **[BBC NEWS | Entertainment | BBC News 'wrong Guy' is revealed](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4774429.stm)** > > A man who was mistakenly interviewed by BBC News 24 is revealed to be a student from the Congo. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtc-7-reinforce-my-flagging-skepticism-or-believe-with-me/393872/26 "2007-02-27T17:44:18Z")
[QUOTE=Trunk] All you’re doing is sticking your finger in the dike. Oh, this doesn’t add up. Put a finger in it. Wait, this doesn’t add up. Put a finger in it. Wait, _this_ doesn’t add up. Put a finger in it. Problem is, you only got so many fingers. [/QUOTE] Everything adds up on my end. My fingers are staying put. The tinfoil hat side doesn’t add up. I hope you are whooshing me. ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtc-7-reinforce-my-flagging-skepticism-or-believe-with-me/393872/27 "2007-02-27T17:45:15Z")
[QUOTE=Loach] Everything adds up on my end. My fingers are staying put. The tinfoil hat side doesn’t add up. I hope you are whooshing me. [/QUOTE] Zionist. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtc-7-reinforce-my-flagging-skepticism-or-believe-with-me/393872/28 "2007-02-27T17:46:23Z")
[QUOTE=Trunk] Zionist. [/QUOTE] How did you know? ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtc-7-reinforce-my-flagging-skepticism-or-believe-with-me/393872/29 "2007-02-27T17:49:23Z")
[QUOTE=Loach] How did you know? [/QUOTE] Because of your hateful lies about 9/11. (ok, I’m kidding. I enjoyed Tabula’s link though) ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtc-7-reinforce-my-flagging-skepticism-or-believe-with-me/393872/30 "2007-02-27T17:51:19Z")
[QUOTE=Trunk] Because of your hateful lies about 9/11. (ok, I’m kidding. I enjoyed Tabula’s link though) [/QUOTE] Bastard. You are good at it. Maybe too good. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Fat\_Chance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8baadc/32.png) [@Fat\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fat_Chance)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtc-7-reinforce-my-flagging-skepticism-or-believe-with-me/393872/31 "2007-02-27T17:56:36Z")
[QUOTE=Trunk] Because of your hateful lies about 9/11. (ok, I’m kidding. I enjoyed Tabula’s link though) [/QUOTE] Its really scary that you can’t always tell the difference between someone just having a little fun on a board, pretending, and the real hard-core conspiracy believer. Try reading the Loose Change boards. Every post makes me wonder if it is all just a big joke, cause I just don’t know how those people can think and believe the way they do. Many of them have a new hero other than Alex Jones - Judy Wood. Her theory (no joke, here) is the government used some kind of beam weapon from outer space to bring down the towers! Oh, yeah, perfectly logical… ---
**Author:** ![justrob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9adbd/32.png) [@justrob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/justrob)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtc-7-reinforce-my-flagging-skepticism-or-believe-with-me/393872/32 "2007-02-27T19:40:59Z")
[QUOTE=Trunk] Occam’s razor? You want the simplest explanation? They were supposed to report on the collapse at 4:57 Daylight Savings Time. Instead, they reported on it at 4:57 Eastern Standard Time. A huge error in an otherwise well-run cover-up. [/QUOTE] The explanation is even simpler. The BBC reporter was in London which is five hours ahead of NY. Clearly if it was 4:57 Eastern Standard time it was 9:57 London time. WTC 7 had been down for 4-1/2 hours or so. They just put the wrong footage up. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtc-7-reinforce-my-flagging-skepticism-or-believe-with-me/393872/33 "2007-02-27T19:47:11Z")
I worked in Downtown Manhattan for several years prior to 2001, including two years at in 1 World Trade Center. In September 2001, I was working in a firm about five blocks from the Trade Center site, though on the day of the attacks I hadn’t left for work before I heard what happened and didn’t try to go in. During the day of September 11, I was avidly switching between several channels of New York TV news. There was a massive amount of fragmentary and confused information coming from reporters Downtown, elsewhere in the City, and indeed all around the world. One of the things that there were multiple contradictory reports about was the fate of 7 World Trade Center. One minute in one report it was up, the next in another it was down. With the smoke and the dust, it was difficult for any of the remote cameras to show a clear picture, and there was no clear source for on-the-scene information. One of the best comments someone made about the alternately standing and collapased building was that “it was doing pushups.” ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtc-7-reinforce-my-flagging-skepticism-or-believe-with-me/393872/34 "2007-02-27T19:49:12Z")
[QUOTE=Trunk] In the words of Groucho Marx, “who you gonna believe. . .me, or your own eyes?” [/QUOTE] But those are the words of **Chico** Marx. Another sign that you’re just part of the conspiracy! ---
**Author:** ![Tabula\_Rasa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@Tabula\_Rasa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabula_Rasa)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtc-7-reinforce-my-flagging-skepticism-or-believe-with-me/393872/35 "2007-02-27T20:32:34Z")
[QUOTE=RealityChuck] But those are the words of **Chico** Marx. Another sign that you’re just part of the conspiracy! [/QUOTE] And a Marxist. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtc-7-reinforce-my-flagging-skepticism-or-believe-with-me/393872.md?page=1)