# WTF?!?! A Plane Crash in Harlem?!?!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 12, 2001, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913 "2001-11-12T14:29:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![SterlingNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SterlingNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SterlingNorth)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/1 "2001-11-12T14:29:59Z")

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This just in from the news! A plane crashed in Harlem, they say!

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**Author:** ![SterlingNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SterlingNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SterlingNorth)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/2 "2001-11-12T14:31:48Z")

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Pardon me, they’re saying Queens. I don’t know NYC geography.

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**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/3 "2001-11-12T14:36:25Z")

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Holy hell. BBC is reporting it now. American Airlines 767. No details as to the cause, or casualties, yet.

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**Author:** ![Tansu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@Tansu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tansu)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/4 "2001-11-12T14:38:06Z")

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I’m going to switch on the TV now. I’ll check CNN and BBC 24 and post back.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/5 "2001-11-12T14:38:11Z")

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Yeah, that’s where I heard. Queens.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/6 "2001-11-12T14:38:45Z")

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It crashed in Queens. It probably just crashed (imagine saying a sentence like that 2 months ago.) The airport is in Queens. We’re still short on details here.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/7 "2001-11-12T14:41:23Z")

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A bit more detail. It crashed in the Rockaways. This is near JFK, where the plane took off from.

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**Author:** ![Tansu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@Tansu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tansu)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/8 "2001-11-12T14:41:36Z")

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American Airlines flight 677. No details of numbers on board or possible cause yet.

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**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/9 "2001-11-12T14:42:45Z")

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News is saying 129th street, four residential buildings on fire.

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**Author:** ![Kwyjibo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/59ef9b/32.png) [@Kwyjibo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kwyjibo)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/10 "2001-11-12T14:43:21Z")

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As per CNN:

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> A plane has crashed in the Queens borough of New York City. American Airlines confirms it was one of their planes. Thick black smoke was billowing over the area, and local media reported several houses on fire.

Damn…

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**Author:** ![SterlingNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SterlingNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SterlingNorth)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/11 "2001-11-12T14:43:48Z")

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I’m hearing that it was on approach to a landing.

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/12 "2001-11-12T14:44:05Z")

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news just said it was on approach TO JFK not from…  
is this 9/11 again? or was this a “regular” crash?

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**Author:** ![Soda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@Soda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soda)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/13 "2001-11-12T14:45:47Z")

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Oh, no… Even if it’s “just” a crash, I just feel like this is the last thing New York, and the USA, needs right now.

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**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/14 "2001-11-12T14:46:48Z")

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Please, thank you for keeping up the posts. I can’t get to any of the news websites, and there’s no TV here at work. NPR has finally started reporting it, but it’s my only source.

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**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/15 "2001-11-12T14:46:58Z")

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[http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/queenscrash011112.html](http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/queenscrash011112.html)

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**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/16 "2001-11-12T14:47:38Z")

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Initial BBC Report:

[http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid\_1651000/1651984.stm](http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1651000/1651984.stm)

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**Author:** ![Why\_A\_Duck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Why\_A\_Duck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Why_A_Duck)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/17 "2001-11-12T14:48:07Z")

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According to the AA site, flight 677 was a JFK to San Juan flight.

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**Author:** ![UncleBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d26b3c/32.png) [@UncleBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBill)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/18 "2001-11-12T14:48:30Z")

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A.P. as of 9:42am

NEW YORK – A plane crashed this morning in the Queens section of New York, and buildings reportedly are on fire in the neighborhood.

The plane crashed shortly after 9 a.m. and thick, black smoke could be seen in televised reports.

The type of plane and number of people aboard were not immediately known. CNN reported that American Airlines confirmed the plane was an inbound American Airlines Boeing 767. The airline told The Associated Press it had no immediate comment.

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**Author:** ![Rosebud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@Rosebud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rosebud)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/19 "2001-11-12T14:48:35Z")

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I managed to get into [CNN.com](http://CNN.com) but it seems most of the local news sites are bogged down. Regular crash or not people are probably freaking. Ok, _I’m_ freaking.

I have a radio here but I’m hesitant to tune in. Largely because I’ve become a wuss but also because I have an assistant here from overseas and I know being separated from them on 9/11 hit her really hard. I don’t want to put her through hearing crash details if it’s “just” a regular crash…

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**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/20 "2001-11-12T14:49:13Z")

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BBC, PA (Ananova) and Sky websites are already crawling to a halt. The TV is _implying_ (obviously no facts yet) that it’s a ‘regular’ crash. Even so…how totally horrible.

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