# WTF?!?! A Plane Crash in Harlem?!?! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 12, 2001, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913 "2001-11-12T14:29:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Damhna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Damhna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damhna)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/21 "2001-11-12T14:49:37Z")
Sky News are showing pictures of a huge dust cloud too horribly familiar; according to them 4 Buildings are down and all airports are closed. ---
**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/22 "2001-11-12T14:50:18Z")
For those that can’t get to the BBC site: > [@](#): > > Every available emergency vehicle is on its way to the scene > > An American Airlines flight on its way to John F Kennedy airport has crashed in New York. > At least four buildings in the Rockaway Beach area of the city’s borough of Queens are on fire. > > It is not known why the aircraft crashed or how many people were on board, or in the buildings now ablaze. > > New York Mayor Rudolph Guiliani is on his way to the crash site and has called a level one alert. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/23 "2001-11-12T14:50:45Z")
American Airlines flight 587, according to ABC. An Airbus 300 inbound to JFK ---
**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/24 "2001-11-12T14:51:17Z")
Now they’re saying Newport Avenue, Rockaway Beach. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/25 "2001-11-12T14:52:16Z")
Shit! My co-worker is thinking of leaving to go to her mother’s. Her mother lives in Howard Beach, not far from the crash. Her mother can’t dial out on her phone and it’s driving her crazy. Boss trying to convince her to calm down first. This really sucks. ---
**Author:** ![SterlingNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SterlingNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SterlingNorth)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/26 "2001-11-12T14:52:28Z")
Or it could be flight 587 to Santo Domingo (It probably is mispelled). They’re throwing info (CBS) out left and right, and I can’t be sure if it’s accurate. ---
**Author:** ![Tansu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@Tansu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tansu)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/27 "2001-11-12T14:53:06Z")
BBC now say it was flight 587 bound for Dominican republic ---
**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/28 "2001-11-12T14:54:33Z")
PA and Sky are both claiming it was taking off, not inbound, and that ‘reports’ (without saying who from) claim engine failure as a cause. Dow Jones has dropped 200 points and all airports in New York are closed. ---
**Author:** ![Damhna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Damhna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damhna)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/29 "2001-11-12T14:54:54Z")
It turns out that it was a300 Airbus headed (outbound) for Santa Domingo (Flight AA507) ---
**Author:** ![belladonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@belladonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/belladonna)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/30 "2001-11-12T14:55:46Z")
Does anyone have acess to visuals on this? How bad do the fires look? Have buildings actually been leveled? Radio just said this is a highly residential area, and NYC is good for packing maximum occupancy into minimum space. Those poor people…it’s just too sad, too soon. ---
**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/31 "2001-11-12T14:56:01Z")
Even in the best case scenario (empty plane, total accident, unoccupied buildings hit) I still feel absolutely horrible for the people who heard about this and wanted to just vomit because it was too close to home again. I mean, _I_ felt that way, and I wasn’t particularly closely affected by 9/11. I mean, I was, but not like the families of those who died, or who live in NY or DC. I just feel terrible for anyone who heard the news and for a few seconds died all over again. Just what American Airlines needs, too. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/32 "2001-11-12T14:56:07Z")
eyewitness reporting explosion/flames at wing fuselage join, she believes it was taking off. ABC says out bound for Santa Domingo ---
**Author:** ![Damhna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Damhna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damhna)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/33 "2001-11-12T14:59:45Z")
Im looking at the scene on Sky News. A huge pall of smoke is drifting slowly accross the city. Its not as large as what we have seen before but there is no doubting that htis was a significant crash. ---
**Author:** ![Rosebud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@Rosebud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rosebud)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/34 "2001-11-12T14:59:55Z")
My mother just called me to see if I’m ok. She’s almost crying! I don’t even know what to say. I tried to sound cheery and I told her it was probably “Just a regular crash,” not that that helps the families and the victims, but you know what I mean. Glad you guys are on and posting. It’s hard to get onto most sites here, as I mentioned, so seeing your updates helps. ---
**Author:** ![Kiki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kiki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiki)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/35 "2001-11-12T15:00:01Z")
This is awful. I have the same nauseous feeling I had 09/11. I’m hearing (and reading) lots of different info. One source says the plane was taking off from JFK and another says it was preparing to land at JFK. Please keep the info coming. All the news sites are jammed! ---
**Author:** ![NotWithoutRage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/22d042/32.png) [@NotWithoutRage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotWithoutRage)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/36 "2001-11-12T15:01:19Z")
247 on board. 9 crew members. Holy shit. ---
**Author:** ![Damhna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Damhna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damhna)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/37 "2001-11-12T15:01:38Z")
Okay Now eyewitness reports are saying that the wing was on fire before the crash. 4 Buildings are on fire. The plane left from Logan and stopped and JFK and was leaving for S.Domingo when the crash occured. ---
**Author:** ![belladonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@belladonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/belladonna)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/38 "2001-11-12T15:01:44Z")
just heard… 247 passengers 9 crewmen onboard ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/39 "2001-11-12T15:03:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Rachelle \* > \*\*This is awful. I have the same nauseous feeling I had 09/11. I’m hearing (and reading) lots of different info. One source says the plane was taking off from JFK and another says it was preparing to land at JFK. > > Please keep the info coming. All the news sites are jammed! \*\* Pretty definitely outbound. AA flight 587 to Santa Domingo is what they’re saying right now. Eyewitness says saw explosion/flash at the wing body join. No reports yet as to distress signal, no USAF jets in area to witness. ---
**Author:** ![SterlingNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SterlingNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SterlingNorth)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-a-plane-crash-in-harlem/92913/40 "2001-11-12T15:03:35Z")
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