WTF? (argument I had online)

Cool. That’s the section I thought you were looking at. I wonder when they made those final changes.

I was making a joke on Lobelia’s online buddy’s obviously idiotic attitude. A joke. I figured the “Wheeee!” would make that clear.

I’ve wondered that, too, about other codes. Unfortunately, so far I haven’t been able to find a source for records about when changes are made to the code here. If you know the original language, sometimes you can find the bill which made the change, but not always. The bill I was citing was from 1998, 4 years after I moved back to this state. I’d kept it on file as a reference, but hadn’t done due diligence to make sure it was current.

I hate to say it, but your friend may not be too out of place here.

“Git off my lah-and!!”

Nice to know we still have some brave patriots in this country who would kill someone just for setting foot on their property.

Try that in a more civilized country and you’d be in a tight spot.

If you tried it here in the USA against someone I care about, you’d be in an even tighter spot.

This obviously varies between the states in the USA, but here’s the information for Colorado (Section 18-1-704.5, commonly referred to as the “Make my Day” law).

In summary, if someone unlawfully breaks into your house, and you have a reasonable belief that they have committed or are going to commit a crime, you have the right to use deadly force, and are immune from criminal or civil results.

So, yeah, in Colorado, you absolutely CAN shoot someone for stealing your TV, as long as they unlawfully entered your home.

from this site (Section 18-1-704.5, under Colorado Statutes).

Here’s one result of this law: an article describing one instance where someone started breaking into the house of a neighbor.

You can’t, however, use deadly force against someone trespassing except in the case where deadly force would already be allowed even if they weren’t trespassing.

would someone explain why you would *want * to casually kill someone if you didn’t have to, even if the law might technically allow it? defending yourself, your family, even your life savings, i understand and support. but do you really want to kill, say, a teen-age junkie for stealing your hubcaps? and “no questions, no warning” sounds genuinely deranged. what if the stranger at your door is just a guy like you with a broken down car who needs to use a phone? maybe it’s someone from your spouse’s job coming to tell you that there’s been an accident. maybe it’s a brush salesman. maybe it’s a guy who misunderstood directions. maybe the noise in back is your kid trying to sneak in after curfew. being prepared for the worst is one thing; being gleeful about it is something else entirely.

I was wondering about this too. (And this is coming from someone who once woke up at 3am to see that a stranger had broken into her house and was currently in her bedroom.)

Betcha feel kinda silly about opening fire on that bunch of carollers now, eh?

Ah, I forgives ya, you old scallywag! Anyways on to my point. I once had a commerce teacher, a fat Trinidadian man who claimed to have smoked ganja with Bob Marley, who told us that in New York a man ate a grape without paying for it in a shop owned by a Korean, who promptly shot him dead.
Of course everyone assumed the ganja incident must have occured more recently than he had maintained, but this thread has intrigued me. Could the owner have gotten away with this by virtue of the fact that the man was stealing and claiming that the shop was his home?

A legal way to fulfill a fantasy without breakage of the law or joining the armed services?

I agree with deranged and keeping him off of your friends list … and keep an eye on his ‘defender’, too.

There’s a reason that even people I’ve known online for 5+ years never have gotten my home number or address (and I keep a cell phone and post box for that reason as well as other reasons).

LOL He doesn’t live in Ireland either!! :smiley:

funny to see this thread today; just got done watching Michael Moore’s Bowling for Colombine (avail on DVD) in which he examines the “whys” of gun violence in America… Interesting factoid: Canadians are every bit as much in love with guns as Americans, but have a tiny fraction of the gun killings we do. See the movie for why that appears to be (no spoilers here, LOL!)

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As well as all sorts of other totally inaccurate tripe and unsubstaniated editorializing.

…o-KAY then…

[slinking off back to my corner…]

(It IS his movie though, so editorializing is his right.)

Sorry. Didn’t mean to scare you off, but it seemed to me that you were presenting Moore’s film as a source for facts and truth. It ain’t. While I suppose, if the film were portrayed as entertainment we can forgive the guy for editorializing and deliberately shrouding actual, real-life events in whatever he thinks is important, it is simply unforgiveable when the piece is promoted as, and even accepted an academy award for, a documentary. Documentaries should, well, document the facts and the truth. Moore’s film doesn’t even approach this standard.

Anyway, that’s a discussion more properly suited to another forum, so I’ll just drop it.

Well, I saw your location and took a shot in the dark.

To excuse anything? Wow, that does sound handy!

“Ma’am, are you aware how fast you were driving?”
“I yelled a warning. He rushed me. I shot him.”
“Oh well in that case, have a nice day, ma’am!”

“Hey, did you finish all the ice cream without saying anything?”
“I yelled a warning. He rushed me. I shot him.”
“Oh, well in that case…”

:smiley:
d&r

Lobelia Overhill Are you sure this freak is even an adult? He sounds like a kid playing “NYPD Blue” or “Law & Order”
*** A little hijack:*** My step-father collected guns, & my half brothers are a mere step away from being canidates for another Waco. For 35 years when ever one of them managed to track me down for a “visit” I would have to defend my no guns position. When Pop was on his death bed, I went to see him, and once again, he trotted out the “How will you defend your home?” tripe. I rared up and yelled at the poor frail old man “I’ve spent my whole adult life saving lives, I couldn’t take a life!”
He screwed up his wizzened little face and said, “Well, sister, you can’t have a gun! If you can’t kill with it, what good would it be?”
I had to look around for Rod Serling I was surely being sucked into the Twilight Zone

I got the point of your WTF!!! I got talking to someone before who turned out to be a complete psycho. He was a friend of a friend when I met him (online that is) - I assumed that, because she spoke to him, he was ok. We both found out that wasn’t the case. To cut a long story short, we both had to put him on every kind of ignore we could find!!!

You are right to ignore him - nobody needs that kind of negativity in their lives. This guy needs a life - and doesn’t need to suck your life out of you to get it.

You did the right thing for sure.

Not to worry** Jeff** … :slight_smile:
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Picunurse**, the fella is in is late 30’s/early 40’s and probably watch too much Starsky & Hutch when he was a kid (or something)

Thank you Honeydew … Thankfully I’ve not heard from the fecker since, although it would be nice to tell him he was wrong in his assumptions