# WTF Celebrity News: Jennifer Hudson's family killed

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-celebrity-news-jennifer-hudsons-family-killed/469449>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 24, 2008, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-celebrity-news-jennifer-hudsons-family-killed/469449 "2008-10-24T23:26:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hazle_Weatherfield)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-celebrity-news-jennifer-hudsons-family-killed/469449/21 "2008-10-25T13:40:04Z")

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Someone started this yesterday evening.

> **[WTF Celebrity News: Jennifer Hudson's family killed](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=489453)**
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> Wow. I can’t even imagine what this is all about. It’s terribly sad.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-celebrity-news-jennifer-hudsons-family-killed/469449/22 "2008-10-25T14:14:12Z")

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> [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](#):
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> Suspect is now is custody.
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> [http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20081025/en\_top\_eo/65655](http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20081025/en_top_eo/65655)

That also identifies the nephew as the son of her sister Julia.

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**Author:** ![sandra\_nz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@sandra\_nz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sandra_nz)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-celebrity-news-jennifer-hudsons-family-killed/469449/23 "2008-10-25T14:21:21Z")

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How sad. Hope the child is found safe and sound. ☹

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**Author:** ![sandra\_nz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@sandra\_nz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sandra_nz)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-celebrity-news-jennifer-hudsons-family-killed/469449/24 "2008-10-25T14:40:12Z")

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Reported for merging. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Washoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecae2f/32.png) [@Washoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Washoe)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-celebrity-news-jennifer-hudsons-family-killed/469449/25 "2008-10-25T14:51:12Z")

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> [@Tengu](#):
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> It’d be horrible to have something like that placed on her shoulders, on top of the tragedy.

And to have it happen when she’s sitting on top of the world after a fairy tale ride up there. She must have felt like Cinderella at times.

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-celebrity-news-jennifer-hudsons-family-killed/469449/26 "2008-10-25T14:52:20Z")

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There’s a couple hiccups here because I merged the duplicate thread, rather than just closing it with the link. Oh, well.

**the shroud** and **askeptic** , the proper response when you suspect someone of thread-shitting is to REPORT the post to the moderators (little ! in red triangle in upper right corner of post)… and let the moderator decide. Please don’t go playing “junior mod” and don’t make accusations/personal insults against other posters in this forum.

In this case, I’m very sympathetic to **Miller** ’s question: the murders were front page, huge headlines, in this morning’s Chicago _Tribune_ and made no mention of who Jennifer Hudson was. Left me clueless. The link provided in the OP doesn’t say directly, you have to go searching a second link. I think **Miller** ’s question was perfectly appropriate. It’s fine for the OP to provide a link to the story rather than recap it, but in this case the story was poorly written, assuming that reader knows who Ms Hudson is. **askeptic** , it’s unreasonable to ask someone to do a google search to answer a question that one expects to be answered in the OP (or in an the immediate link.)

And, let me add, as a minor aside: even if **Miller** ’s post were some sort of back-handed insult to Ms Hudson, that’s not against our rules. In threads about celebrity deaths (or those close to them), we do allow negative comments about the celebrity. I personally think it’s dreadful, but it’s the rules that the majority of posters wanted, and my job is to enforce them.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-celebrity-news-jennifer-hudsons-family-killed/469449/27 "2008-10-25T16:23:46Z")

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> [@cricetus](#):
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> And if my OP is curt, it’s because I saw no point to summarizing an article I linked to and had very little to add.

Just as a matter of courtesy, it’s always good to provide a sentence or two of summary. Many people, especially at work, don’t want to follow links around all over the place, and this one was to MTV, which may be blocked at some workplaces.

Not a rule, just a good thing to do.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-celebrity-news-jennifer-hudsons-family-killed/469449/28 "2008-10-25T16:28:50Z")

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> [@The\_Shroud](#):
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> That’s kind of a threadshit; regardless of your prior knowledge, \*\*cricetus \*\*provided a link.

The phrase “kind of” is unnecesssary in the above sentence.

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**Author:** ![wmfellows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c2a13f/32.png) [@wmfellows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wmfellows)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-celebrity-news-jennifer-hudsons-family-killed/469449/29 "2008-10-25T18:09:48Z")

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> [@askeptic](#):
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> your google broke or just like to threadshit?

Ah, I never heard of her either, pretty bloody presumptuous to respond like that for a C level pseudo celebrity.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-celebrity-news-jennifer-hudsons-family-killed/469449/30 "2008-10-25T19:08:46Z")

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> [@InvisibleWombat](#):
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> Just as a matter of courtesy, it’s always good to provide a sentence or two of summary. Many people, especially at work, don’t want to follow links around all over the place, and this one was to MTV, which may be blocked at some workplaces.
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> Not a rule, just a good thing to do.

Agreed. There’ve been a lot of RIP threads with just a name and a link – not all of us are 100% familiar with everyone in pop culture, science, academia, sports, politics, etc.

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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-celebrity-news-jennifer-hudsons-family-killed/469449/31 "2008-10-26T02:23:13Z")

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> [@wmfellows](#):
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> Ah, I never heard of her either, pretty bloody presumptuous to respond like that for a C level pseudo celebrity.

Since when is a recent Academy-Award winning actress considered to be a C-level pseudo celebrity?

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-celebrity-news-jennifer-hudsons-family-killed/469449/32 "2008-10-26T02:28:48Z")

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> [@wmfellows](#):
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> Ah, I never heard of her either, pretty bloody presumptuous to respond like that for a C level pseudo celebrity.

The perception of threadshitting, I think, comes from the fact that the attached link provided both background and links to more information about Ms. Hudson. Now, I’ve never watched American Idol, and I only know her from Dreamgirls, which I paid no attention to, as I was just taking the nieces; but it seems silly to implicitly complain about being uninformed when the OP offered ample opportunity to inform onself.

People often start threads on AI or sports figures, and I rarely have a clue who is being talked about. I don’t speak dismissively of the topic, though, and my official board persona is that of a jackass.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-celebrity-news-jennifer-hudsons-family-killed/469449/33 "2008-10-26T02:45:24Z")

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> [@Frostillicus](#):
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> Since when is a recent Academy-Award winning actress considered to be a C-level pseudo celebrity?

That would be ever since Louise Fletcher won.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-celebrity-news-jennifer-hudsons-family-killed/469449/34 "2008-10-26T02:49:48Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> That would be ever since Louise Fletcher won.

OMG, Louise Fletcher RULED! Nurse Ratched, the grandmother from _Flowers in the Attic_, Kai Wynn on _Deep Space 9_…the woman had an awesome talent for “bitch”.

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**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-celebrity-news-jennifer-hudsons-family-killed/469449/35 "2008-10-26T02:54:39Z")

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Even if she were simply a c-level pseudo celebrity, the only real response to this news is “How f-ing horrible. How sad”. any man’s death diminishes me and all that.  
But I don’t think simply asking who she was is threadshitting. I always tell the kids at the high school to ask questions; there are no dumb questions, etc. And yes, those of us at work can’t always go linking around the internets.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-celebrity-news-jennifer-hudsons-family-killed/469449/36 "2008-10-26T03:13:15Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> … Flowers in the Attic\*, Kai Wynn on _Deep Space 9_…

I rest my case.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-celebrity-news-jennifer-hudsons-family-killed/469449/37 "2008-10-27T14:35:11Z")

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[Update](http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/10/27/illinois.shootings.hudson/index.html). Authorities think they have found her newphew’s body.

SHIT SHIT SHIT!:mad:

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-celebrity-news-jennifer-hudsons-family-killed/469449/38 "2008-10-27T14:48:40Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> SHIT SHIT SHIT!:mad:

That’s kind of a threadshi–

OW! OW! _OW!_

This is a sad thread. But if we can’t keep trying to laugh, what’s the point of still being alive?

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-celebrity-news-jennifer-hudsons-family-killed/469449/39 "2008-10-27T15:25:01Z")

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> [@KneadToKnow](#):
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> That’s kind of a threadshi–
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> OW! OW! _OW!_  
> This is a sad thread. But if we can’t keep trying to laugh, what’s the point of still being alive?

Yes, finding comedy in all moments is truly the only thing that gives life meaning. That is why so many people invite Sarah Silverman to funerals and ask that she remain in character the entire time.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-celebrity-news-jennifer-hudsons-family-killed/469449/40 "2008-10-27T16:31:00Z")

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The day I don’t feel outrage over a child being abducted and murdered by someone who is suppose to protect them is the day y9u can murder me.

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