# WTF, Egypt? W...T...F?!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-egypt-w-t-f/620158>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 27, 2012, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-egypt-w-t-f/620158 "2012-04-27T17:53:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kearsen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/82dd89/32.png) [@Kearsen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-egypt-w-t-f/620158/41 "2012-04-27T20:31:39Z")

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This takes break up sex to a whole new level.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-egypt-w-t-f/620158/42 "2012-04-27T20:33:45Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> That’s REALLY disgusting and horrible! :eek:

I hear if you mix it with Clamato Juice it ain’t so bad.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-egypt-w-t-f/620158/43 "2012-04-27T20:49:36Z")

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In a warm climate like Egypt I would think at least 24 hours.

What?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-egypt-w-t-f/620158/44 "2012-04-27T21:22:16Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Dear God, sir, you aren’t suggesting that Egyptian men drink _Coors_?

Yes, but there it’s called Al-Qu’urs.

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-egypt-w-t-f/620158/45 "2012-04-27T21:23:13Z")

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Merneith:

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> I thought Muslims (and also Jews) have fairly strict laws about contact with dead bodies and impurity? I may be wrong of course.

Can’t speak for Muslims, but Jewish law about contact with the dead are only for Kohanim (priests, descendants of Aaron) and (at times that the Holy Temple stood) for people entering the Holy Temple and/or dealing with holy items (e.g., temple vessels, sacrificial animals, etc).

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-egypt-w-t-f/620158/46 "2012-04-27T21:26:34Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Yes, but there it’s called Al-Qu’urs.

Made from the clean river waters of India!

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-egypt-w-t-f/620158/47 "2012-04-27T21:27:27Z")

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Need answer FAST!

Tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock…

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-egypt-w-t-f/620158/48 "2012-04-27T21:53:52Z")

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Very, **very** ancient Egyptian custom, no doubt . . . **That’s** why they invented mummification . . .

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-egypt-w-t-f/620158/49 "2012-04-27T22:07:52Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Made from the clean river waters of India!

Deganges just ain’t a river in Egypt.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-egypt-w-t-f/620158/50 "2012-04-27T22:09:00Z")

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The hieroglyph of the crane and Ra is an Egyptian pun on “stiffy”. That’s a true fact, you could look it up.

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**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-egypt-w-t-f/620158/51 "2012-04-27T22:11:11Z")

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Poke her…fore she gets cold!

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-egypt-w-t-f/620158/52 "2012-04-27T22:11:15Z")

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‘Farewell Intercourse’ law that will allow men to legally have sex with their deceased wives for up to six hours after their death.

\<awkward pause\>

Ok, I’ll admit it. I can’t have sex for anything approaching six hours whether the woman is dead or alive. I’m good for 5, 10 minutes _tops_.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-egypt-w-t-f/620158/53 "2012-04-27T22:13:54Z")

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Didn’t they notice the dishes piling up in the sink?

Reference to a joke about sex and death, for those not in the know.

> [@Inigo Montoya](#):
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> Ok, I’ll admit it. I can’t have sex for anything approaching six hours whether the woman is dead or alive. I’m good for 5, 10 minutes tops.

Try letting her be on top. 😉

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-egypt-w-t-f/620158/54 "2012-04-27T23:16:31Z")

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> [@cmkeller](#):
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> Merneith:
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> Can’t speak for Muslims, but Jewish law about contact with the dead are only for Kohanim (priests, descendants of Aaron) and (at times that the Holy Temple stood) for people entering the Holy Temple and/or dealing with holy items (e.g., temple vessels, sacrificial animals, etc).

Thanks for the infos, CM!

I think it goes without saying, but since I’m all up on the Catholic Church’s tits about their treatment of women, I’ll just go on record as being against the Islamic religion’s permitting of the raping of dead women. If that’s really a thing. Which I sort of still don’t really believe.

I mean … I would think that anyone who thinks that they’re proving something by having sex with a dead woman is kind of more to be pitied than pilloried. I mean. Dude! You just had sex with a dead person! And you think that makes you a winner! Just like Charlie Sheen! Only … _grosser_. And more delusional. And Grosser Than Charlie Sheen is really not a “winning” state that any rational being would embrace. So, you know. Just stop. Dude. Really. You’re just embarrassing yourself now.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-egypt-w-t-f/620158/55 "2012-04-27T23:27:54Z")

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So that’s why the Exodus! Had nothing to do with slavery,and everything to do with hanging out with people who boink each other when they are dead. Rather wander around the Godforsaken Desert for forty fucking years, eating locusts. Can’t blame them.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2012, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-egypt-w-t-f/620158/56 "2012-04-28T02:24:54Z")

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It’s worth noting that even the _Daily Fail_, the paper most responsible for sending this story on its way across the world, is [backing away](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2135434/Egypts-plans-farewell-intercourse-law-husbands-sex-DEAD-wives-branded-complete-nonsense.html) now:

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> But sources inside the Egyptian Embassy in London have said the claims were ‘completely false’, ‘forbidden in Islam’ and ‘could never imagine it happening’.
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> The source said the proposal, if it even existed, had not reached the parliament - although it was also admitted it could be the work of an extremist politician.
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> Although not officially rebutted, the claims that someone inside Egypt could introduce such a law provoked widespread scepticism.

Of course, if these claims had provoked some scepticism on the part of the actual news media, and if all those reporters had actually done some fact-checking of their own instead of rushing to print, there would be no need for a rebuttal at all.

The weaselly “not officially rebutted” line fits perfectly with the lazy-and-stupid person’s version of reporting: take a single statement from an unknown or unreliable or biased source, repeat it as if it were a legitimate and verified piece of news, and then cover yourself later by saying, “Hey, we just reported what we heard, and anyway, no-one has officially rebutted these wild claims made by unknown sources.”

As Alex Pareene points out in [Salon](http://www.salon.com/2012/04/27/two_stupid_lies_the_right_spread_this_week/):

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> There’s no such law or even any evidence that anyone proposed said law, and even if someone had proposed such a law, there is not even a remote possibility that the Egyptian Parliament would consider it. It’s total bullshit. It’s the Daily Mail overhyping a story Al-Arabiya took from a newspaper opinion column written by a dedicated Hosni Mubarak supporter.
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> This seems like a really staggeringly obvious point — there are mainstream Muslim clerics and nutty fringe ones, just like in Mormonism and Judaism and all forms of Christianity! — but the Islamophobia industry has spent years trying to make sure that Americans by and large don’t understand this.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-egypt-w-t-f/620158/57 "2012-04-28T02:35:45Z")

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> [@steronz](#):
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> Why are women fighting this? Jealousy?

from the article linked in the OP:

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> The idea that marriage remains valid, even after death, came from Moroccan cleric Zamzami Abdul Bari, who spoke about it in May 2011. **He also said women have the same right to have sex with their dead husbands**.

(bolding mine)

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**Author:** ![The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_In_Black)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2012, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-egypt-w-t-f/620158/58 "2012-04-28T03:55:00Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> [Story not fake.](http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/27/tagblogsfindlawcom2012-legallyweird-idUS13513392520120427)

Your link does not seem to work.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2012, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-egypt-w-t-f/620158/59 "2012-04-28T04:00:25Z")

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It appears that people in the West don’t have bullshit sensors as far as it relates to anything to do with muslims.

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**Author:** ![mister\_nyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@mister\_nyx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mister_nyx)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2012, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-egypt-w-t-f/620158/60 "2012-04-28T04:14:25Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> It appears that people in the West don’t have bullshit sensors as far as it relates to anything to do with muslims.

I don’t know that this place is representative of the West.

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